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Feb 15 2019, 15:29
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xesxesgnik
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Wait so are we talking about 50k or 20k? IF it's 20k, it's about 30 hath per day which is somewhat reasonable, but if it's 50k, it's 120 hath/day. Doesn't one gold star only give you 9 hath/day? Do you run a H@H at home?
This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 15 2019, 15:31
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Feb 15 2019, 15:38
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 22:29)  Wait so are we talking about 50k or 20k? IF it's 20k, it's about 30 hath per day which is somewhat reasonable, but if it's 50k, it's 120 hath/day. Doesn't one gold star only give you 9 hath/day? Do you run a H@H at home?
50k I'm running at ~95 hath per day on H@H atm, but it's slowly increasing. So 95 x 365 = 34675 Plus the hath I have atm 34675 + 10000 = 44675 Daily hath is at 9 for cookies/GS 9 x 365 = 3285 44675 + 3285 = 47960 So that's 2040 hath short. And as I said, my H@H is slowly increasing, plus I did say "a year and a bit" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 15 2019, 15:41
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xesxesgnik
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Oh yea you were the guy had that beast home connection that costs shittons XD It all makes sense now lolol. Btw, how long did it take you to go from 0 to 95? Since you're in Asia it gets much better traffic than the one I've set up in Lithuania (where's dat anyways? O_o), I just wanna get a rough idea lol QUOTE EDIT: I just did a quick rough calculation, and it turns out forge beyond 5 for power slaughter is not worth it before DD1. Interesting. On the other hand, it's better to forge your rapier(of slaughter) to at least 4025 before DD1, for most adb for buck. EDIT2: DD2 is worth getting only after fully forging rapier of slaughter and forging power slaughter to 30.
Never mind this. I forgot DD stacks multiplicatively lol. DD1 better than rapier forge beyond 16 DD2 better than rapier forge beyond 70, armor forge beyond 20 This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 15 2019, 15:51
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Feb 15 2019, 15:44
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 22:41)  Oh yea you were the guy had that beast home connection that costs shittons XD It all makes sense now lolol. Btw, how long did it take you to go from 0 to 95? Since you're in Asia it gets much better traffic than the one I've set up in Lithuania (where's dat anyways? O_o), I just wanna get a rough idea lol
Wait. Hold up Hold up. You're from Lithuania? Oh yeah sorry, it took about ~3 months or so This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 15 2019, 15:46
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Feb 15 2019, 15:48
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 14:02)  EDIT: I just did a quick rough calculation, and it turns out forge beyond 5 for power slaughter is not worth it before DD1. Interesting. On the other hand, it's better to forge your rapier(of slaughter) to at least 4025 before DD1, for most adb for buck. EDIT2: DD2 is worth getting only after fully forging rapier of slaughter and forging power slaughter to 30.
Of course it is overall worth it, why do you think it isnt? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Ehm, but you know that for the end result it does not matter in what order you do that right? I mean forge first or DD first, in the end you have the same damage. And some people are just too stuborn to actually buy forging materials and bindings so they actually get even DD2 before they have fully forged their set. Or at least i have heard of such uncles. Of course i am not talking about any uncle you would know, the uncle i mean is called steve. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 14:41)  Lithuania (where's dat anyways? O_o)
It is the southernmost of the baltic states south of latvia, north of poland and formerly directly west of east prussia. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 15 2019, 15:50
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Feb 15 2019, 15:53
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 15 2019, 08:44)  Wait. Hold up Hold up. You're from Lithuania?
Oh yeah sorry, it took about ~3 months or so
No I just rent a seedbox from Lithuania lolol. It's got good speed but shit hitrate because nobody around there uses this site apparently I guess lol.
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Feb 15 2019, 15:57
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 15 2019, 08:48)  Of course it is overall worth it, why do you think it isnt? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Ehm, but you know that for the end result it does not matter in what order you do that right? I mean forge first or DD first, in the end you have the same damage. And some people are just too stuborn to actually buy forging materials and bindings so they actually get even DD2 before they have fully forged their set. Or at least i have heard of such uncles. Of course i am not talking about any uncle you would know, the uncle i mean is called steve. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Well uncle actually you made the right choice I think lolol. rapier forging 99->100 and forging power slaughter 29->30 roughly same as DD3. forging power slaughter 99->100 is roughly DD9 lmao. Just don't ever do it I guess lolol QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 15 2019, 08:53)  No no, Uncle. You don't get it. He basically said "no one knows where Lithuania is, of course, you also don't know where it is but that's *where my server is" He said that to a fucking Lithuanian (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I am laughing my goddamn ass off. I've said *basically* the same thing like a million times before (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I actually live in New York, but since this is hilarious as hell I just might as well be Lithuanian lolol. Fuck you uncle, how dare you say such thing to a Lithuanian (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Feb 15 2019, 08:57)  I think that what he means is, after converting the cost of DD1/DD2 in credits, and comparing the ratio of (ADB increase / credits) for it with that for forging, he came up with his conclusion; namely, that it is more worthy to invest in forging up to lv. 5 or 25 of whatever, and after that spend those credits ih Haths for DD then more forging ... which I don't know, because I haven't done the math, but sound at least plausible (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Yep you got it. It's a super rough and personalized estimation tho. For me my weapon constitutes about 15% of adb and a piece of power armor about 7%. This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 15 2019, 16:01
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Feb 15 2019, 15:57
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 15 2019, 15:48)  Ehm, but you know that for the end result it does not matter in what order you do that right? I mean forge first or DD first, in the end you have the same damage. And some people are just too stuborn to actually buy forging materials and bindings so they actually get even DD2 before they have fully forged their set. Or at least i have heard of such uncles. Of course i am not talking about any uncle you would know, the uncle i mean is called steve. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) I think that what he means is, after converting the cost of DD1/DD2 in credits, and comparing the ratio of (ADB increase / credits) for it with that for forging, he came up with his conclusion; namely, that it is more worthy to invest in forging up to lv. 5 or 25 of whatever, and after that spend those credits ih Haths for DD then more forging ... which I don't know, because I haven't done the math, but sound at least plausible (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Feb 15 2019, 16:00
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Feb 15 2019, 22:57)  I think that what he means is, after converting the cost of DD1/DD2 in credits, and comparing the ratio of (ADB increase / credits) for it with that for forging, he came up with his conclusion; namely, that it is more worthy to invest in forging up to lv. 5 or 25 of whatever, and after that spend those credits ih Haths for DD then more forging ... which I don't know, because I haven't done the math, but sound at least plausible (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I think even if math-wise it's more efficient, it's definitely less work to just buy DD. Your forge lvl might be too low, buying a ton of catalysts, bindings, mats.... Or just click once for DD Plus, personally I feel bad about wasting mats for equip that's sub optimal. Like, I forged my rapier (even though it's not that good), but it still feels bad to spend all those mats on something that I'll have to salvage anyways. But DD doesn't care if I have decent enough gear that can be forged without worry. It's just DD QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 22:57)  Fuck you uncle, how dare you say such thing to a Lithuanian
You're the one who said it, not Uncle. You dum dum (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 15 2019, 16:04
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Feb 15 2019, 16:04
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 15 2019, 09:01)  Now i am confused. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Who is now from lithuania? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) And what did i do? I didnt even made a panzer joke. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'm just messing with you. I love you <3. I think what KamuiSeph thought was I actually live in Lithuania, so our interaction appeared to him as follows: A: (lives in god-knows-where, makes self-mocking joke about nobody knows where he lives) B: (explains in detail where god-knows-where is) Which is, pretty hilarious to me as well lol. QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 15 2019, 09:00)  I think even if math-wise it's more efficient, it's definitely less work to just buy DD. Your forge lvl might be too low, buying a ton of catalysts, bindings, mats.... Or just click once for DD Plus, personally I feel bad about wasting mats for equip that's sub optimal. Like, I forged my rapier (even though it's not that good), but it still feels bad to spend all those mats on something that I'll have to salvage anyways. But DD doesn't care if I have decent enough gear that can be forged without worry. It's just DD
Yea, that's a good point. This is all really theoretical and only applies to something that you'd soulfuse. In general it's a lot more convenient to just DD if you have money upfront, but I guess given you have a equip you want to keep for a while, there's no need to save up for DD until you reach those forge levels. QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 15 2019, 09:00)  You're the one who said it, not Uncle. You dum dum (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Wait, I'm the one who said it? Then who lives in Lithuania?? Now I'm confused as well. This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 15 2019, 16:09
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Feb 15 2019, 16:07
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 15 2019, 23:01)  Now i am confused. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Who is now from lithuania? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) And what did i do? I didnt even made a panzer joke. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Lemme break it down. Saioux: hey KamuiSeph, I got a seedbox in Lithuania LULZ Where even is that, amirite? Uncle: Lithuania is here lol, look at a map. KamuiSeph: LUL, Saioux, I was like BORN in the country and you're sarcastically asking me "where is this country"? FUNNY BRO. It's like a line I use all the time. People ask me where I'm from, I say "Lithuania, but no one knows where it is anyway lol". Saioux: Uncle! Why did you say such a thing to a Lithuanian? KamuiSeph: ???? It wasn't Uncle, it was YOUUUU!!!! And.... Scene! Hope that helps. QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 23:04)  I think what KamuiSeph thought was I actually live in Lithuania, so our interaction appeared to him as follows:
A: (lives in god-knows-where, makes self-mocking joke about nobody knows where he lives)
Yep. Except not the B part, I never explain anyway. I just let it hang there (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) BACK ON TOPIC BOYS/GALSQUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 23:04)  I guess given you have a equip you want to keep for a while, there's no need to save up for DD until you reach those forge levels.
Exactly. Having money upfront, DD is less of a hassle. Saving up and already have soulfuse worthy equip? Welp, forge is going to be better for you then. Takes time to save up anyways, gives you time to search out good prices for mats (plus get some gifts from your mobs) and it probably will end up costing less than DD too. This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 15 2019, 16:13
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Feb 15 2019, 16:11
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xesxesgnik
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Wait you actually are from Lithuania??? No shit? Ofc I thought you were from Japan.
lmao my apologies dude. It's actually even more hilarious this way.
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Feb 15 2019, 16:14
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 23:11)  Wait you actually are from Lithuania??? No shit? Ofc I thought you were from Japan.
lmao my apologies dude. It's actually even more hilarious this way.
Yep, I live in Japan but was born and raised in Lithuania. Hence my reaction (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I only know of one other Lithuanian here, Rikis (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 15 2019, 16:22
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xesxesgnik
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I'm still laughing lolol. My god, I mean yea sure, there certainly can be some Lithuanians on this forum, but what are the odds that I say where is Lithuania to a Lithuanian lmao. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 15 2019, 09:17)  You know my face looks like this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) and this song is playing in my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f_Vjz66gh8So i guess the answer is no it doesnt help. Maybe tomorrow i will know who lives where and why lituania isnt where i thought it is. Until now i didnt even knew a whole country could move. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Okay so, KamuiSeph lives in Japan, but was born and raised in Lithuania. I have no association with Lithuania except for my seedbox server being located there. Uncle is just confused because he heard "Fuck you Uncle" for no reason. I'm so sorry... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Feb 15 2019, 16:22
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 15 2019, 23:17)  You know my face looks like this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) and this song is playing in my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f_Vjz66gh8So i guess the answer is no it doesnt help. Maybe tomorrow i will know who lives where and why lituania isnt where i thought it is. Until now i didnt even knew a whole country could move. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I find myself saying "I'm from Lithuania, but no one knows where that is so don't worry about it mate" ALL the time. So when Saioux said basically the same thing "Lithuania? Where even is that?" I lost my shit laughing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Cause he said that, not knowing that I am a Lithuanian and I use that line all the goddamn time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) YOU, my Uncle, added a comment about where the country actually is (which, basically confused both of you guys). Just think of the conversation and remove Uncle's comment from it. That's all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Feb 15 2019, 23:17)  Wait what, for both things? QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 15 2019, 23:22)  Uncle is just confused because he heard "Fuck you Uncle" for no reason. I'm so sorry... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) You better be sorry, YOU CONFUSED UNCLE, HOW DARE YOU!!! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 15 2019, 16:23
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Feb 15 2019, 16:45
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 15 2019, 16:22)  Wait what, for both things?
Yeah, both. Now, I know things there have been ... let's say "complicated" from the fourties till the nineties of past century. But I doubt you are old enough to have spent the greater part of your life in those times. Instead you became adult when a new, unexpected, difficult but also exciting and unforeseeable future was unfolding in front of you. With dangers but also possibilities. As they say, "may you live in interesting times" can be both a wish and a curse. It depends. It depends on a lot of things, last but not least personal individual luck ... but the general path in Lithuania has been one from worse to better for quite a good number of people, especially for the young; which is surely better then being part of a country where the general path is from better to worse (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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