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what is the ADB when talking about equipment? from wiki i know is "Attack Damage Bonus" so higher the better, but how to calc ADB of an equipment?

im also confuse about DOT, like "Bleeding Wound: 23.6% chance - 7 turns / 20% DOT, +662 Slashing Damage" is it means when bleeding affect, each click effect 662 * 20% blood?

ADB is simply the very first attribute of equipment (if it has damage bonus) like heavy armors or simply its damage for weapons. If you mean the %, use scripts like live percentile

I guess 20% DOT means your damage *20% + 662 each tick (over time)?

This post has been edited by mouisaac: Feb 14 2019, 04:40

1H pieces that are non-slaughter are incredibly inexpensive. I've spent less than 500k for my entire current outfit, which is all 90%+ADB Legendary Power. Forge-5 on any of my pieces will cost more than whatever it costed me to obtain them, that's for sure.

In terms of the strength of my build, which is basically low-forged rapier+shield + high-end ADB power (no forge), IA3 (SoL/Spark/Haste)

Arenas: Clear all pretty easily, routinely use mana draughts (but I imperil every round), use a few spirit draughts, PFDWD runs me like an hour though. Once mobs > 7 I start to pay attention a bit more.
IW: Prefer to clear on IWBTH, but can clear all the legendaries I've done (80-90 rounds) on PFUDOR with some management near late rounds.
Grindfest: IWBTH starts getting tough around round 200

My conclusion, based on everyone and their mother in here saying that 1H can be played by monkeys in a room with typewriters, is that forging is essential and must be the piece I'm missing to be able to take my eyes off the screen while playing.

non-slaughter are inexpensive, but I doubt you can get something of your quality for less than a 500k nowadays, they start at least 200k or so per piece if you go to this week's auction. Anyways, I really gotta upgrade my gears tho as I'm starting to not kill off some with OFC, a huge issue..

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 14 2019, 04:48

ADB is simply the very first attribute of equipment (if it has damage bonus) like heavy armors or simply its damage for weapons. If you mean the %, use scripts like live percentile

sorry i still dont understand it.
only "power" heavy armor has attack damage, so only power armor and weapon has ADB? or all attribute count?
in pc, when hover on an attribute, it will show a base number, is it means value of this attribute in level 1?
is ADB means (base of this equipment / max base of this kind of equipment) * % ?


some other questions (guess i will have a very long question list for a very long time...):

Untradeable equipment cannot send by MM right? so cannot let other player help on IW of SoulFused items.

is BAZAAR shop same to everyone? means if i see an equipment in shop, other player also see it, first come first serve?

almost everyday i see legendary items in equipment shop, usually 10~20k. are they sold by other player or refresh by shop itself? worth to buy?

And with that, what are your numbers? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

It usually takes me around 1h45-1h50. Don't remember the number of turns.

In order to understand ADB and percentile, you need to know how your stat is calculated. Refer to the following links:

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_Scaling
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

Essentially, stat of an item is primarily determined by its innate base stat, scaled by level of the item. But base stat varies from item to item, and there exist different ranges of value a base stat can assume for each quality.

ADB expressed as percentile indicates how good the base stat is relative to the values it can have. For instance, a legendary rapier of slaughter can have base stat of damage 42.8~51.33. If the base is 42.8. ADB would be 0%, and if it's 51.33, 100%.

Honestly though, you don't have to worry much about it at your level. Another important factor, especially for ADB, is level scaling. So a lv100 ADB 100% might be lower than lv200 ADB 0%, so you just have to look out for equipment with the best flat stat, not the best percentile.

Percentile matters for high-end gears, because if its percentile is really good, you can soulfuse it, which binds the equipment to you (untradeable), and the the equipment level matches yours, so in this case higher percentile, aka higher base, means higher stat.

I've never purchased anything from bazaar, but normally you can't sell item you bought from bazaar (Not that anybody would want to buy a bazaar-quality item, but that's another story) In short, don't buy it. Yes you may find gem in bazaar but that's as good as winning the lottery and getting peerless equip, so in practical sense there's no point in discussing the edge case.

The thing is, you can't equip an item whose level is higher than you, and I bet all that legendary items you saw have lv500. The earliest you can equip those is lv.400, because you can soulfuse items up to your level+100, but when you are there you'll be the one who throw out garbage leg at bazaar.

Bazaar is mostly same to everyone, except for when you salvage an item. Only you can see the item you salvaged over the next 24 hours, and you can buy it back at 5*normal bazaar price or 10k, whichever is higher.

TL;DR

1. Untradeable equipment cannot be sent by MM.
2. Bazaar shop is same except for salvaged item.
3. Don't buy anything from Bazaar.

sorry i still dont understand it.
only "power" heavy armor has attack damage, so only power armor and weapon has ADB? or all attribute count?
in pc, when hover on an attribute, it will show a base number, is it means value of this attribute in level 1?
is ADB means (base of this equipment / max base of this kind of equipment) * % ?
some other questions (guess i will have a very long question list for a very long time...):

Untradeable equipment cannot send by MM right? so cannot let other player help on IW of SoulFused items.

is BAZAAR shop same to everyone? means if i see an equipment in shop, other player also see it, first come first serve?

almost everyday i see legendary items in equipment shop, usually 10~20k. are they sold by other player or refresh by shop itself? worth to buy?

1) ADB -> Attack damage bonus. Only weapons, power armor, and shade armor will have it.

2) Yes, untradeable in fact means what it says - you will have to IW soulfused/bazaared equipments.

3) Yes, bazaar is the same for everyone - first come first serve.

4) Sold by other players. Usually not worth it, but if you see a decent one that you can use (i.e. good prefix/suffix and within 100 levels of you) it can be good.

Hi mage people, so I am going to decide my element based on the first nice staff I can buy, i.e. LTWD, LSWD // LARD, LFRD, LDWD.

I'll probably try to find one of the last three since most likely I can't afford the wind/elec and the cloth for them. Thing is, what about LAWD, LAKD, LFWD, LFKD, LDKD? They are less good, in other words, cheaper, so maybe I would consider them as starting gears if the diff is not too significant. Any thoughts on that?

I think a difference between LARD and LAWD maybe different from the diff between LDWD and LDKD as well, right?

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 14 2019, 09:30

AFAIK it's based on whether the staff have native counter-resist and element...
oak and willow are have native CR so they're the best for GF...
but willow don't have fiery and arctic element natively so they're less desirable than LFRD and LARD...
and from yesterday discussion I get that for arena you don't need as much CR as GF...
maybe Pen5 will be enough to compensate the lack of native CR for arena only???
CMIIW... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment#Staffs

This post has been edited by Greshnik: Feb 14 2019, 11:36

Hi mage people, so I am going to decide my element based on the first nice staff I can buy, i.e. LTWD, LSWD // LARD, LFRD, LDWD.

I'll probably try to find one of the last three since most likely I can't afford the wind/elec and the cloth for them. Thing is, what about LAWD, LAKD, LFWD, LFKD, LDKD? They are less good, in other words, cheaper, so maybe I would consider them as starting gears if the diff is not too significant. Any thoughts on that?

I think a difference between LARD and LAWD maybe different from the diff between LDWD and LDKD as well, right?

I played LARD until level 500. Works fine for pffest. Just not as fast as willow. Elec or wind are not crazy expensive, if you ignore the near perfect gear. Don't rule those out beforehand

It usually takes me around 1h45-1h50. Don't remember the number of turns.

Oh, I'm sorry, I think I expressed myself badly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I was referring to the statistics of your set (Physical Attack, Vitals, Defense, Specific Mitigation). It's because you said that you need to use Silence, I was wondering what your defensive numbers would be.

But regardless, I consider your time very good. The last time I did a PFUDORfest (a few months ago), it took about 3h15min. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) My t/s is bad... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I played LARD until level 500. Works fine for pffest. Just not as fast as willow. Elec or wind are not crazy expensive, if you ignore the near perfect gear. Don't rule those out beforehand

I guess my question was more of how LAWD compete with LARD and so on. I'm not ruling out anything as of now, but rather if both LTWD and LARD shows up on auction and I can afford one and not other, then that's gonna decide my fate I guess. Not necessarily LTWD would rule out LARD if LARD has better stats and LTWD not as good, so all I could do is just wait for some stave to come out on the market.

I'm not in that much of a hurry so I'll just consider the best combination possible, i.e. no LTRD or LAWD.

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 14 2019, 17:12

How'd you guys compare these two items?



Second equipment is roughly a little bit better in every way, except the first one has fire mitigation. I just find it kinda tricky to take something as minor as fire mitigation into consideration when evaluating an equipment

How'd you guys compare these two items?



Second equipment is roughly a little bit better in every way, except the first one has fire mitigation. I just find it kinda tricky to take something as minor as fire mitigation into consideration when evaluating an equipment

The difference is marginal. I'd pick the one with fire mitigation because when you play IW or GF eventually all kind of damage start to add up to deeper you go.

Cool. Thank you~ Yea since I've decided to just stick with mag slaughter I should get as much defense I can gouge up as possible lol.

if I really need to choose, I'll take the ruby one...
even though it has lower adb, the high STR will compensate it IMO...
you also will get 1 less desirable potency option as it already has fire mitigation...
so you could at least get 2 mitigation if you want Jug5...

but I would not choosing mag over lv. 450 as there are already plenty leg one in that lv. range...
maybe if it's under lv. 400 I'll slightly consider it, but over 400???
better choose leg power of protection/warding first IMO...

you also will get 1 less desirable potency option as it already has fire mitigation...

Since when is fire mitigation a less desirable potency? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

if I really need to choose, I'll take the ruby one...
even though it has lower adb, the high STR will compensate it IMO...
you also will get 1 less desirable potency option as it already has fire mitigation...
so you could at least get 2 mitigation if you want Jug5...

but I would not choosing mag over lv. 450 as there are already plenty leg one in that lv. range...
maybe if it's under lv. 400 I'll slightly consider it, but over 400???
better choose leg power of protection/warding first IMO...

You see that's exactly the problem I have right now - leg protection vs mag slaughter. I think eventually slaughter is better when you don't need that extra mitigation and peerless protection < mag 0% < exq 100% in terms of adb, which is actually hilarious.

So uh idk really...I have to soulfuse rapiers and shields first so I really would like to get something I can equip without soulfusing, but it's hard to find...or it's crap.

Since when is fire mitigation a less desirable potency? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

maybe my wording is a bit off...
if you get the ruby prefix you could get jug5 + 2 other elemental mitigation on top of fire mitigation...
but if you get no prefix or mithril you only get max 2 element mitigation...
sorry for my bad wording, Uncle... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You see that's exactly the problem I have right now - leg protection vs mag slaughter. I think eventually slaughter is better when you don't need that extra mitigation and peerless protection < mag 0% < exq 100% in terms of adb, which is actually hilarious.

So uh idk really...I have to soulfuse rapiers and shields first so I really would like to get something I can equip without soulfusing, but it's hard to find...or it's crap.

but its over lv. 450...
by the time you could soulfuse it, I think there's plenty of leg power of slaughter to choose...

I don't think I'm gonna go for leg slaughter cuz it's expensive and I'm trying to go do maging instead lol. I'm just looking for something that can get me through pffest and stuff, which def doesn't have to be leg slaugther.

maybe my wording is a bit off...
if you get the ruby prefix you could get jug5 + 2 other elemental mitigation on top of fire mitigation...
but if you get no prefix or mithril you only get max 2 element mitigation...

Ah, but did you also thought about that it is easier to get jug5 in general with an armor that has a elemental prefix?