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Imho, you're trying to burn the steps too quickly. It feels like you're already trying to switch styles while you don't even have a decent grasp on your current one. To top it off, you're at a level where you'd need even more forging to be able to play mage decently, and you're leaving behind your trainings, which are very important as well.

You might be ending up with a bunch of equipment that costed an arm and a leg and that barely had any ROI at all.

So you're free to do whatever you want, but I'd advise you to have a solid 1h setup to back you up in case you underestimated the expense. That's what I did for my part : be able to clear PFFEST with 1H first, build a cheap mage build second, save up for the real deal third.

And I haven't farmed proficiency : switched straight away and relied on a good assimilator training to get going faster. I even started at Nintendo difficulty so that it's not excessively hard. Now I roflstomp arena mobs with minimal armor forging and without any Charged.

So try to plan ahead and to think twice before going in heavy expenses. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That's some really good advice there man. Thank (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) What would you consider a "solid 1h setup" to be? My impression is that 1H is less dependent on getting the absolute best equip compared to mage, right? So I was thinking of just settling with mag power slaughter perhaps for faster speed? leg power slaughter honestly seems to be an overkill as I'm already considering the switch, and I don't mind using a bit more consumables and being able to clear pffest a bit later - I have to get crystaium and stuff to make it worth it anyways. I am certainly going to get some decent rapiers and shield for sure, but for armor are decent mag power slaughter sufficient to carry me through while I prep for mage set?

My plan: Leg Rapier of Slaughter(Forge 5), Leg Force Shield(preferably SDE)(Forge 25), Mag Power Slaughter(Forge 5) Does this sound okay??

I'm starting to upgrade assimilator over the next few days to at least five hopefully lol. I tried casting imperil, freeze, corruption every round and it's brain fucking me, so I think for a while I'm just gonna do those in RE only...Maybe it's worth to cast imperil every round tho.

Sadly it leads to saying "60m or play 1H" to newer players, which is fundamentally wrong and if 10 min increase on D&D is not much than nothing is much.
That's more realistic, but let me tell you this - I spent under 10m for set that burns daily stamina in ~1h and it's something that should be recommended.

That's really impressive. When did you make the transition to mage? Mind if you could share the specific elemental, forge, etc. Thank you!

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 13 2019, 19:27

That's really impressive. When did you make the transition to mage?

Around 450, but different element and I'm semiactive so still in transition (mostly IW with 1H and mage stacking DwDs)

Mind if you could share the specific elemental, forge, etc.

Currently holy = cheap oak, head-body charged cotton, peerless onyx pants - forge 5, charged gloves and onyx shoes no forge (42% hp bonus, prof perk, IA4, DD1)

This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Feb 13 2019, 20:03

Is Rapier + Force Shield still the dominant melee build?

About your question on mag cotton, I meant you can get mag as long as it has good rolls and also all three PABs. That way you can save some more for the upgrade to charged later. However, if a decent leg cotton in soulfuse range comes along it would work great too.

I definitely don't regret switching to 1h mage/mage, clears are considerably faster (thought I really don't play much - like maybe 1-2 DwD a week). I think 6M is enough for fire/cold. The proficiency hath perks are very nice, but probably not absolutely required at the start.

Thanks ppl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I think I'll slowly make the transition to mage and look out for relevant pieces.

My plan is to first get decent leg rapier of slaughter and leg force shield, and I think there isn't much to discuss here.
For armors, 1. Mag Power Slaughter 2. Leg Power Protection/Balance. Which would be better? Since I'm not gonna go full 1H, I'll probably not waste money buying leg power slaughter.

I want a setup that can get me going at reasonable speed for PFFest as well, and I'd soulfuse them if necessary. I guess the budget I'm thinking of is about 10m total? I don't wanna spend too much since it's gonna be sunk cost..

1H pieces that are non-slaughter are incredibly inexpensive. I've spent less than 500k for my entire current outfit, which is all 90%+ADB Legendary Power. Forge-5 on any of my pieces will cost more than whatever it costed me to obtain them, that's for sure.

In terms of the strength of my build, which is basically low-forged rapier+shield + high-end ADB power (no forge), IA3 (SoL/Spark/Haste)

Arenas: Clear all pretty easily, routinely use mana draughts (but I imperil every round), use a few spirit draughts, PFDWD runs me like an hour though. Once mobs > 7 I start to pay attention a bit more.
IW: Prefer to clear on IWBTH, but can clear all the legendaries I've done (80-90 rounds) on PFUDOR with some management near late rounds.
Grindfest: IWBTH starts getting tough around round 200

My conclusion, based on everyone and their mother in here saying that 1H can be played by monkeys in a room with typewriters, is that forging is essential and must be the piece I'm missing to be able to take my eyes off the screen while playing.

This post has been edited by ravenfrost123: Feb 14 2019, 03:28

My conclusion, based on everyone and their mother in here saying that 1H can be played by monkeys in a room with typewriters, is that forging is essential and must be the piece I'm missing to be able to take my eyes off the screen while playing.

check your block and parry.
at your level, if you still can't play 1h without keeping your eyes peeled on the screen, big chance it's your insufficient block/parry

check your block and parry.
at your level, if you still can't play 1h without keeping your eyes peeled on the screen, big chance it's your insufficient block/parry

74.8 pmit
70.7 mmit
3.0 evade
57.6 blk
56.7 parry
16.8 res

I've been thinking about moving from forge-13 on the shield to forge-30 for blk. I haven't been willing to spend the RA required to forge dex on the armors, those maybe I should be forging dex at least on a rapier (hoping to move on from my current one soon enough) and the shield.

More like everyone is overestimating the tankiness of 1H. Under lvl390-400, cheesing through everything requires a max forged Parry on the weapon and quite a high level of forging on the shield.

Even at my level, with a very high proficiency, a full Peerless set, fully forged Peerless shortsword (except ADB), moderate forging of shield and Forge 10 power set, I still need to use Silence during PFFEST in order not to heal too often.

Keep in mind that it's not everyone who has the means to full forge a shield or a weapon.

More like everyone is overestimating the tankiness of 1H. Under lvl390-400, cheesing through everything requires a max forged Parry on the weapon and quite a high level of forging on the shield.

Even at my level, with a very high proficiency, a full Peerless set, fully forged Peerless shortsword (except ADB), moderate forging of shield and Forge 10 power set, I still need to use Silence during PFFEST in order not to heal too often.

Keep in mind that it's not everyone who has the means to full forge a shield or a weapon.

And with that, what are your numbers? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

what is the ADB when talking about equipment? from wiki i know is "Attack Damage Bonus" so higher the better, but how to calc ADB of an equipment?

im also confuse about DOT, like "Bleeding Wound: 23.6% chance - 7 turns / 20% DOT, +662 Slashing Damage" is it means when bleeding affect, each click effect 662 * 20% blood?

what is the ADB when talking about equipment? from wiki i know is "Attack Damage Bonus" so higher the better, but how to calc ADB of an equipment?

im also confuse about DOT, like "Bleeding Wound: 23.6% chance - 7 turns / 20% DOT, +662 Slashing Damage" is it means when bleeding affect, each click effect 662 * 20% blood?

ADB is simply the very first attribute of equipment (if it has damage bonus) like heavy armors or simply its damage for weapons. If you mean the %, use scripts like live percentile

I guess 20% DOT means your damage *20% + 662 each tick (over time)?

This post has been edited by mouisaac: Feb 14 2019, 04:40

1H pieces that are non-slaughter are incredibly inexpensive. I've spent less than 500k for my entire current outfit, which is all 90%+ADB Legendary Power. Forge-5 on any of my pieces will cost more than whatever it costed me to obtain them, that's for sure.

In terms of the strength of my build, which is basically low-forged rapier+shield + high-end ADB power (no forge), IA3 (SoL/Spark/Haste)

Arenas: Clear all pretty easily, routinely use mana draughts (but I imperil every round), use a few spirit draughts, PFDWD runs me like an hour though. Once mobs > 7 I start to pay attention a bit more.
IW: Prefer to clear on IWBTH, but can clear all the legendaries I've done (80-90 rounds) on PFUDOR with some management near late rounds.
Grindfest: IWBTH starts getting tough around round 200

My conclusion, based on everyone and their mother in here saying that 1H can be played by monkeys in a room with typewriters, is that forging is essential and must be the piece I'm missing to be able to take my eyes off the screen while playing.

non-slaughter are inexpensive, but I doubt you can get something of your quality for less than a 500k nowadays, they start at least 200k or so per piece if you go to this week's auction. Anyways, I really gotta upgrade my gears tho as I'm starting to not kill off some with OFC, a huge issue..

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 14 2019, 04:48

ADB is simply the very first attribute of equipment (if it has damage bonus) like heavy armors or simply its damage for weapons. If you mean the %, use scripts like live percentile

sorry i still dont understand it.
only "power" heavy armor has attack damage, so only power armor and weapon has ADB? or all attribute count?
in pc, when hover on an attribute, it will show a base number, is it means value of this attribute in level 1?
is ADB means (base of this equipment / max base of this kind of equipment) * % ?


some other questions (guess i will have a very long question list for a very long time...):

Untradeable equipment cannot send by MM right? so cannot let other player help on IW of SoulFused items.

is BAZAAR shop same to everyone? means if i see an equipment in shop, other player also see it, first come first serve?

almost everyday i see legendary items in equipment shop, usually 10~20k. are they sold by other player or refresh by shop itself? worth to buy?

And with that, what are your numbers? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

It usually takes me around 1h45-1h50. Don't remember the number of turns.

In order to understand ADB and percentile, you need to know how your stat is calculated. Refer to the following links:

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_Scaling
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

Essentially, stat of an item is primarily determined by its innate base stat, scaled by level of the item. But base stat varies from item to item, and there exist different ranges of value a base stat can assume for each quality.

ADB expressed as percentile indicates how good the base stat is relative to the values it can have. For instance, a legendary rapier of slaughter can have base stat of damage 42.8~51.33. If the base is 42.8. ADB would be 0%, and if it's 51.33, 100%.

Honestly though, you don't have to worry much about it at your level. Another important factor, especially for ADB, is level scaling. So a lv100 ADB 100% might be lower than lv200 ADB 0%, so you just have to look out for equipment with the best flat stat, not the best percentile.

Percentile matters for high-end gears, because if its percentile is really good, you can soulfuse it, which binds the equipment to you (untradeable), and the the equipment level matches yours, so in this case higher percentile, aka higher base, means higher stat.

I've never purchased anything from bazaar, but normally you can't sell item you bought from bazaar (Not that anybody would want to buy a bazaar-quality item, but that's another story) In short, don't buy it. Yes you may find gem in bazaar but that's as good as winning the lottery and getting peerless equip, so in practical sense there's no point in discussing the edge case.

The thing is, you can't equip an item whose level is higher than you, and I bet all that legendary items you saw have lv500. The earliest you can equip those is lv.400, because you can soulfuse items up to your level+100, but when you are there you'll be the one who throw out garbage leg at bazaar.

Bazaar is mostly same to everyone, except for when you salvage an item. Only you can see the item you salvaged over the next 24 hours, and you can buy it back at 5*normal bazaar price or 10k, whichever is higher.

TL;DR

1. Untradeable equipment cannot be sent by MM.
2. Bazaar shop is same except for salvaged item.
3. Don't buy anything from Bazaar.

sorry i still dont understand it.
only "power" heavy armor has attack damage, so only power armor and weapon has ADB? or all attribute count?
in pc, when hover on an attribute, it will show a base number, is it means value of this attribute in level 1?
is ADB means (base of this equipment / max base of this kind of equipment) * % ?
some other questions (guess i will have a very long question list for a very long time...):

Untradeable equipment cannot send by MM right? so cannot let other player help on IW of SoulFused items.

is BAZAAR shop same to everyone? means if i see an equipment in shop, other player also see it, first come first serve?

almost everyday i see legendary items in equipment shop, usually 10~20k. are they sold by other player or refresh by shop itself? worth to buy?

1) ADB -> Attack damage bonus. Only weapons, power armor, and shade armor will have it.

2) Yes, untradeable in fact means what it says - you will have to IW soulfused/bazaared equipments.

3) Yes, bazaar is the same for everyone - first come first serve.

4) Sold by other players. Usually not worth it, but if you see a decent one that you can use (i.e. good prefix/suffix and within 100 levels of you) it can be good.

Hi mage people, so I am going to decide my element based on the first nice staff I can buy, i.e. LTWD, LSWD // LARD, LFRD, LDWD.

I'll probably try to find one of the last three since most likely I can't afford the wind/elec and the cloth for them. Thing is, what about LAWD, LAKD, LFWD, LFKD, LDKD? They are less good, in other words, cheaper, so maybe I would consider them as starting gears if the diff is not too significant. Any thoughts on that?

I think a difference between LARD and LAWD maybe different from the diff between LDWD and LDKD as well, right?

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 14 2019, 09:30

AFAIK it's based on whether the staff have native counter-resist and element...
oak and willow are have native CR so they're the best for GF...
but willow don't have fiery and arctic element natively so they're less desirable than LFRD and LARD...
and from yesterday discussion I get that for arena you don't need as much CR as GF...
maybe Pen5 will be enough to compensate the lack of native CR for arena only???
CMIIW... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment#Staffs

This post has been edited by Greshnik: Feb 14 2019, 11:36

Hi mage people, so I am going to decide my element based on the first nice staff I can buy, i.e. LTWD, LSWD // LARD, LFRD, LDWD.

I'll probably try to find one of the last three since most likely I can't afford the wind/elec and the cloth for them. Thing is, what about LAWD, LAKD, LFWD, LFKD, LDKD? They are less good, in other words, cheaper, so maybe I would consider them as starting gears if the diff is not too significant. Any thoughts on that?

I think a difference between LARD and LAWD maybe different from the diff between LDWD and LDKD as well, right?

I played LARD until level 500. Works fine for pffest. Just not as fast as willow. Elec or wind are not crazy expensive, if you ignore the near perfect gear. Don't rule those out beforehand