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post Feb 13 2019, 04:32
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another question is, how to get url of an equipment? thanks
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post Feb 13 2019, 04:39
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QUOTE(shiyun @ Feb 12 2019, 21:32) *

another question is, how to get url of an equipment? thanks


Hover over equip and press L C

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post Feb 13 2019, 04:43
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QUOTE(shiyun @ Feb 13 2019, 09:32) *

another question is, how to get url of an equipment? thanks

on PC, hover the equipment then press C...
on mobile, AFAIK you need some script to do it...

EDIT: found the script...
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5044366
dunno if it still working as I don't use it...

QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 13 2019, 09:39) *

Hover over equip and press L

you couldn't do it without script though...

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post Feb 13 2019, 04:46
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 13 2019, 03:39) *

Hover over equip and press L

And with L you actually mean C right?
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post Feb 13 2019, 04:46
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yep, brainfarted.
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post Feb 13 2019, 04:49
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 13 2019, 09:46) *

And with L you actually mean C right?

with HV Utils, you could just hover and press L to directly get the link, bypassing the equipment page...
just like L key in Live Percentile script...
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post Feb 13 2019, 04:53
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 13 2019, 03:49) *

with HV Utils, you could just hover and press L to directly get the link, bypassing the equipment page...
just like L key in Live Percentile script...

Yeah, but i assume that someone who has even to ask that question still uses the game vanila. And vanila L does nothing but c opens a windows with the equipment link.
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post Feb 13 2019, 05:52
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 13 2019, 09:53) *

Yeah, but i assume that someone who has even to ask that question still uses the game vanila. And vanila L does nothing but c opens a windows with the equipment link.

my bad, Uncle...
I just assumed that he said that because he too used with that feature...
and I also assumed that you confused because you didn't know... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 13 2019, 05:56
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 13 2019, 04:52) *

and I also assumed that you confused because you didn't know... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

No, more like dont care. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 13 2019, 07:53
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What do you guys do with your high lv mag items (>lv300)? Just straight to bazaar or the free shop?
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post Feb 13 2019, 07:58
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Shield, Staff, Cloth Salvage. 1H Weapon i keep and IW them before baazar. The Rest immediately bazaar.
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post Feb 13 2019, 08:11
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noice noice...reason for IWing 1H weapon? Does it sell for more or potential drops? And reason for salvagin specifically shield, staff, cloth? When I salvage/bazaar I tend to just blindly follow what HV Utils give me but would be interested to know your criterion

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post Feb 13 2019, 08:25
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 13 2019, 02:53) *

What do you guys do with your high lv mag items (>lv300)? Just straight to bazaar or the free shop?

power warding and protection are sellable till lv.350; slaughter, 400 (maybe more if they have very nice stats). Same with mage stuff (<400~450), rapier of slaughter (<350) and some ethereal weapons (<350).

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post Feb 13 2019, 08:47
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 13 2019, 07:11) *

noice noice...reason for IWing 1H weapon? Does it sell for more or potential drops? And reason for salvagin specifically shield, staff, cloth? When I salvage/bazaar I tend to just blindly follow what HV Utils give me but would be interested to know your criterion

For drops, credits, XP. And nope, they sell the same as everythingelse. IW has nothing to do with bazaar price. And even when you didnt ask, why 1H weapon? Easy, when you click IW the 1H tab is what pops up first, so the reason for that is uncle is lazzy and likes to save some clicks when possible. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

Yeah, and that is the reason why i dont even use such things. They just make you blind. Well what do you think why someone should salvage mag shield, staff and cloth? Could it be that it has something to do with HGW and HGC? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 13 2019, 10:02
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lolol I guess you have a point there. I think my salvaging/bazaar would resemble yours mechanically as the userscript takes into account of price of HGW and HGC and recommend me to salvage those, but yea I was a bit too lazy to figure out something so obvious lol.

That being said, the userscript literally assigns salvage value of 0 to light armors because leathers lmao.
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post Feb 13 2019, 10:06
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Well the price for HGL is somewhere between 100 and 50 credits each, so of course you should prefer to bazaar Mag leather stuff which comes at least close to 1k. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 13 2019, 13:09
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Can I start making the transition to mage? How much money should I start with and what elemental builds? I've seen that holy/dark are the best but I don't think I can afford them at this time. Right now I have about 6m if I sell all my haths. (I'm broke after that GS purchase lmao)

I'm reading through the wiki right now and it's super extensive! Thank you whoever wrote it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
As for 4 Phase+1 Proficiency/3 Phase+2 Proficiency, does the specific parts to be Phase/proficiency matter? Also, what do you recommend between the two (for my case)?

Right now I'm considering following the step 1 of the Mage Builds Guide by spamming some spells and train my assimilator, which is 0 rn. Also, I have only 40 extra ability points, is that too little? What are some spells that are used by mage besides the elemental spells T1~T3 on a regular basis? Let me know if I've omitted any spell below (or put something not used):

Imperil, cure, regen, haste, shadow veil, sol, arcane focus, ss

I've attached my proficiency and theoretical stat distribution based on the wiki for reference. Any feedback greatly, greatly appreciated.

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EDIT: Right now I'm considering going with 1H Mage to get started. What's your thoughts on that? Although I really don't know what 1H Mage is...Do I just swap out Force Shield and Power Armor with Buckler and Phase/Cloth?
EDIT2: Is prof factor = effective_prof/level - 1? And I want this to be at least 0.68 right?
EDIT3: What are the key factors I look for in mage items? MDB>EDB>Prof? Forge armor to Jug3 and staff to Pen5Spel3?

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post Feb 13 2019, 13:52
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Most of your questions are too broad. I suggest you understand the pros and cons of each elements, and their relative prices before you ask some broad questions. Otherwise, I just don't know where to start...

Quick answers to some of your questions.
1h mage is weak. You can try but no it's weak.
[quote]Is prof factor = effective_prof/level - 1?[/quote]
Yea
For imperil elementals>0.68
Imp holy/dark>0.8
Any non-imp>1.0
[quote]What are the key factors I look for in mage items? MDB>EDB>Prof? Forge armor to Jug3 and staff to Pen5Spel3?[quote]
varies for different equipments.
Generally, for phases, EDB>CS>others.
For cottons, profs>=CS>others
For destruction suffix staffs>MDB>EDB>=profs>=counter-resist
For LHOH/MHOH, EDB>MDB>=profs>=counter-resist
[quote]4 Phase+1 Proficiency/3 Phase+2 Proficiency[/quote]
3+2 for non-imp
4+1 for imp styles. Beginners may use 2 cottons.

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post Feb 13 2019, 14:13
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Thank you for the reply! I'm searching through the past replies on ATA to get some idea of what I want to do. I probably can't manage dark/holy so I'm gonna go with elemental, not bother with 1H mage as you said.

I've read it's basically like this: Wind,Elec > Cold >> Fire. I'm going to look out for LTWD, LSWD, LARD, and decide whichever I can get first.

For cotton parts, shoes then gloves. Should I get them all my armors to be charged/radiant I guess? (I'm not if I can afford them tho lol)

As for making the transition, how much prof factor do I need before trying to clear arenas as mage? I don't think it's reasonable to get to 0.68 by casting imperils and spells as 1H Heavy...
I think maybe I should get a mediocre cotton glove until I get enough prof then move on to phase glove.

Anyways, thank you~~

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post Feb 13 2019, 14:31
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Holy is for the rich, but dark is also very cheap. as cheap as fire and cold. Dark is faster than elementals, but more mana consuming and low casting speed.

Fire and cold are underrated. Wind/elec are stronger, but their charged phases also 5~10 times expensive.
For cottons, I suggest gloves rather than shoes. That's a personal opinion. There is barely any difference between shoes and gloves. But gloves are cheaper, and they offer more profs.

0.68 is a goal, not a must.Your profs gained is calculated by exp gained, meaning you gain the same amount of profs as 1h as mage.
It's easy for 4+1 elementalists to reach 0.68 with profs fully forged gloves, staff and the prof perk.

As for stats, I keep Agility the highest, then INT=WIS=END. Dex also gives you parry, and my dex is at 400. Since the cost on attributes are like exponential, it's better to distribute them evenly. Mages need defensive stats.

6m is enough if you go plain phrases. If you go IW and gf in the future, charges are necessary. If only Arenas, plain phases are fine.
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