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at about level 320, and after about 311 posts, with gold star and just a couple of months shy of 5 years account age.

lulz i'ma quote middle of you and Uncle Stu's suggestion around 350~360 I guess. Imagine I played HV throughout my account age tho! Besides, not that I can find power of slaughter right away anyways (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

lulz i'ma quote middle of you and Uncle Stu's suggestion around 350~360 I guess.

Hm, tbh i wouldnt suggest to go full slaughter at that level. Except you notice that your allready unkillable for all monster in arena. Because that and only that is what shows you, that you can go for at least a partial slaughter set.

Getting a win or even a kill, need even more luck and it is in the end nothing but luck or snowflake, or RNGesus and i what ever divinity you think is responsible.

Definitely snowflake - everything else would be purely speculative

tldr: Unlock more monster slots it is worth it. Dont put chaos token into monster it is not worth it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Fine, you two convinced me. I will get some new monsters and keep them down enough so I can keep them cheaply happy. But I want to be honest: it will be rather hard to me not to power them up if I can ... I'm really softhearted! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by hopkar: Feb 12 2019, 22:20

Hey, i didnt say dont power them up, but do it with crystals, not with token. I mean personally for a long time i liked it to spread them a bit when it did come to the food they eated. Just recent i did decide to fuck it and increase them all above the edible line of PL 250.

On that, any rule of thumbs around which level I'd be able to use slaughter over protection/warding without killing myself all the time?

In my opinion it's quite a bit higher level where slaughter armor becomes best, perhaps around level 400 I'm guessing. This should be especially true when you aren't even sure you can easily beat pfudor item world yet.

However this doesn't mean you can't go for slaughter earlier, it's skipping a step in your progression and perhaps saving you a few credits in the end. You can justify slaughter armor better if you: a) claim item world is irrelevant because you can pay other people to do it for you (vincento logic) or b) have enough credits to forge your slaughter armor to 50+ all at once for acceptable defense (what I did).

For chaos upgrades vs unlocking new slots, disregarding the following:

• Higher PL monsters' gift% might be more valuable than lower PL monsters' gift% chance due to higher-grade mats (more net profit/gift for Token)
• Higher PL monsters' morale drain slower (less net cost/morale for Token; PL250?)
• Lower PL monsters' morale restore is cheaper per morale when using crystals (less net cost/morale for Unlock)
• More number of monsters to morale/food restore when unlocking new slots (more net cost/morale+food for Unlock)
• Lower PL monsters' food is cheaper (very slight less net cost/hunger for Unlock; no effect at all until PL251/751)

It should be for Gold Star:
Unlock (<80 token cost) > Scavenging 1 > Unlock (<160 token cost) > Scavenging 2 > Unlock (<240 token cost) > Scavenging 3 > Unlock > Scavenging 5 > Other Upgrades 1 > Scavenging 10 > Other Upgrades 2 > Scavenging 15 > Other Upgrades 3 > Scavenging 20 > Any upgrade

Lower PL monsters' morale restore is cheaper per morale when using crystals (less net cost/morale for Unlock)

Tokens have nothing to do with moral, so i have no idea what you mean by that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

It should be for Gold Star:
Unlock (<80 token cost) > Scavenging 1 > Unlock (<160 token cost) > Scavenging 2 > Unlock (<240 token cost) > Scavenging 3 > Unlock > Scavenging 5 > Other Upgrades 1 > Scavenging 10 > Other Upgrades 2 > Scavenging 15 > Other Upgrades 3 > Scavenging 20 > Any upgrade

How did you come up with the walkthrough?

Tokens have nothing to do with moral, so i have no idea what you mean by that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yeah this is likely incorrect, I was assuming with focusing on a few monsters with tons of tokens (and upgrading them to higher PL monsters) vs unlocking a ton of monster slots with your tokens (Leaving at PL 25). But yeah, won't be necessary to do that. Morale restore per crystal scales with primary attribute/mitigation/PL levels, not with tokens.

How did you come up with the walkthrough?

Unlock (80 tokens) = 2*100%/80=2.5% gift factor/token = Scavenging 1 = 2.5%/1 = 2.5% gift factor/token >
Unlock (160 tokens) 2*100%/160 = 1.25% gift factor/token = Scavenging 2 = 2.5%/2 = 1.25% gift factor/token >
Unlock (240 tokens) 2*100%/240 = 0.83% gift factor/token = Scavenging 2 = 2.5%/3 = 0.83% gift factor/token >
...
Scavenging 5 = 2.5%/5 = 0.5% gift factor/ token = Other upgrade 1 = 0.5%/1 = 0.5% gift factor/token
...

The gift factor gains/costs are based on per increase and not total.
I suppose that upgrading the choice with the lower token cost first is slightly better since you don't have to wait to get the boost. Likely won't matter.

Actually wait up a sec... since unlock more monster slots will allow you to upgrade those new monster slots with cheaper scavenging, so for 160+ tokens vs scavenging 2+ can be optimized.

This post has been edited by t_t_z: Feb 12 2019, 23:59

Yeah this is likely incorrect, I was assuming with focusing on a few monsters with tons of tokens (and upgrading them to higher PL monsters) vs unlocking a ton of monster slots with your tokens (Leaving at PL 25). But yeah, won't be necessary to do that. Morale restore per crystal scales with primary attribute/mitigation/PL levels, not with tokens.

So you didnt thought of the old days when chaos token actually did decrease moral drain?

So you didnt thought of the old days when chaos token actually did decrease moral drain?

I kind of recall it somewhere in my mind long ago... but then I think to myself that's ludicrous. When was that?



Anyways, instead of 160 tokens unlock=Scavenging 2, it should actually be 162 token unlock=Scavenging 2, since:
2*(100%+2.5%)/(160+2*1)=1.27%, whereas
2*(100%+2.5%)/(162+2*1)=1.25%

Same applies to 240 tokens=Scavenging 3, it should be instead 246
2*(100%+2*2.5%)/(246+2*(1+2))=0.83%

I kind of recall it somewhere in my mind long ago... but then I think to myself that's ludicrous. When was that?

0.85 Chaos upgrades no longer affect monster morale drain rate.

I would like to ask about equip comparison...
is it worth to keep bid on this Legendary Amber Power Helmet of Slaughter on decon's auction???
I already have my Legendary Amber Power Helmet of Slaughter actually...
and I plan to sell my current helmet should I won the auctioned helmet...

and how much a Leg Savage Power of Protect/Warding with >80% adb usually cost???

is it worth to keep bid on this

if you plan to stick with 1H, yes

and how much a Leg Savage Power of Protect/Warding with >80% adb usually cost???

warding 200-500k (maybe a bit more)
protection 500-1500k

This post has been edited by lololo16: Feb 13 2019, 02:11

i enabled "Innate Arcana 1" by 50 hath, but when back to my character setting page, auto-cast slots section still say "you do not have any autocast slots".
did i miss out anything? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

if you plan to stick with 1H, yes
warding 200-500k (maybe a bit more)
protection 500-1500k

yeah I plan to stick with 1H for a long time...

i enabled "Innate Arcana 1" by 50 hath, but when back to my character setting page, auto-cast slots section still say "you do not have any autocast slots".
did i miss out anything? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

usually it will take a while...
just try to check it again at the next dawn, but it probably will be earlier...

another question is, how to get url of an equipment? thanks

another question is, how to get url of an equipment? thanks

Hover over equip and press L C

This post has been edited by ihatenamingthings: Feb 13 2019, 04:46

another question is, how to get url of an equipment? thanks

on PC, hover the equipment then press C...
on mobile, AFAIK you need some script to do it...

EDIT: found the script...
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5044366
dunno if it still working as I don't use it...

Hover over equip and press L

you couldn't do it without script though...

This post has been edited by Greshnik: Feb 13 2019, 04:45

Hover over equip and press L

And with L you actually mean C right?