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post Feb 12 2019, 08:21
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 12 2019, 01:17) *

He is in there!


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post Feb 12 2019, 08:34
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 12 2019, 01:17) *

It is not so bad, especially if you choose long adoption periods. 1yr, or even better 3yrs. But, selling GS is a bit faster and slightly more value for money. But it is an easy way to get more daily income. I do run a couple of adopt-a-servers at this moment, but not as much as RS.


Too many legends (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

How many servers do you need to be in the top list? Is it sufficient to get a shining sticker? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I'm considering adopt servers before next century
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post Feb 12 2019, 08:41
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 12 2019, 07:34) *

Too many legends (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

How many servers do you need to be in the top list? Is it sufficient to get a shining sticker? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I'm considering adopt servers before next century

I think RS had 30 at one time. Me, I'm running 5 atm. That is enough for whatever you want, as long as you are playing for a longer time. 5 will not get you a reward, though. My rewards are for other contributions.
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post Feb 12 2019, 08:52
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Why specific elemental variant for weapons is considered better?

What's the order of preference (and why)?

Would (element) strike be better than void with the appropriate setup?
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post Feb 12 2019, 09:08
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 12 2019, 07:52) *

Why specific elemental variant for weapons is considered better?

What's the order of preference (and why)?

Would (element) strike be better than void with the appropriate setup?

Void is better, but you get it anyway at IW 10. Against Schoolgirls, dark or holy works best, as second strike next to void.
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post Feb 12 2019, 09:19
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I've seen a lot of preference for arctic though?

and people seems to avoid fiery. Is this purely preference or is there any reason (e.g mitigation) since most monsters I see have all mitigations up to ¬75 anyway
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post Feb 12 2019, 10:22
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Yeah cold has the lowest average ele mitigation (other than holy/dark). Also fire spike shield (Searing Skin) is probably the best spike shield, allowing Arctic/cold to explode it to deal more damage.

Fire on the other hand has around the highest enemy mitigation on average.

Generally mitigation-wise it seems Holy ~>= Dark > Cold >> Wind ~>= Elec ~>= Fire
If you're doing schoolgirl arenas though then Holy and Dark stand out quite a lot more though.

Of course you can also just use infusions.
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post Feb 12 2019, 15:03
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How much credits can I expect to recover in Forging a decent mag power armor of protection to 5? It roughly takes about 300k (actuator), and if I can't even get 100k out of it I might as well not forge it and wait until getting/buying a leg piece.
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post Feb 12 2019, 16:55
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 12 2019, 13:03) *

How much credits can I expect to recover in Forging a decent mag power armor of protection to 5? It roughly takes about 300k (actuator), and if I can't even get 100k out of it I might as well not forge it and wait until getting/buying a leg piece.

90% material retrieved but no catalyst.
Assuming ADB+Crit+PMi+Str+Dex+End

Upgrade Cost=RA+MGM+Catalyst
60k*5+300*4*5*6+900*5*6
=300k+36k+27k
=363k

Salvage loss
=60k+~3.6k+27k
=~90k

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post Feb 12 2019, 18:38
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Uh maybe I wasn't being clear but I meant about the price I can expect to get when I were to sell the item at a shop/auction. I know salvaging retrieves 90% material, but if I salvage I have to buy back at 5 times the normal buy back price
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post Feb 12 2019, 18:47
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 12 2019, 17:38) *

Uh maybe I wasn't being clear but I meant about the price I can expect to get when I were to sell the item at a shop/auction. I know salvaging retrieves 90% material, but if I salvage I have to buy back at 5 times the normal buy back price


Mag power of protection, I really doubt if you would get the 363k forge costs back. Price is now 50-100k and will remain 50-100k, because buyers at that level don't seem to care (understand?) about forging.
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post Feb 12 2019, 19:08
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Yea I thought so lol. I think I just have to suck it up a bit and go without forging and just forge on leg pieces, preferably on slaughter.
On that, any rule of thumbs around which level I'd be able to use slaughter over protection/warding without killing myself all the time?

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post Feb 12 2019, 19:41
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So, I'm nearing 1000 hath soon, but I'm uncertain about which hath perk to spend it on. Should I go for Crystarium III or Tokenizer 1?

I only have about 13 monsters in my lab, though most of them are nearing the 500 PL, if that means anything.
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post Feb 12 2019, 19:48
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Feb 12 2019, 17:41) *

So, I'm nearing 1000 hath soon, but I'm uncertain about which hath perk to spend it on. Should I go for Crystarium III or Tokenizer 1?

I only have about 13 monsters in my lab, though most of them are nearing the 500 PL, if that means anything.

Tokenizer, no doubt.
Don't spend token for chaos upgrade.
Unlock the slots.

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post Feb 12 2019, 20:13
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 12 2019, 18:08) *

On that, any rule of thumbs around which level I'd be able to use slaughter over protection/warding without killing myself all the time?


at about level 320, and after about 311 posts, with gold star and just a couple of months shy of 5 years account age.
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post Feb 12 2019, 21:29
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 12 2019, 21:13) *

at about level 320, and after about 311 posts, with gold star and just a couple of months shy of 5 years account age.


I hate it when people are so vague .... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 12 2019, 20:48) *

Tokenizer, no doubt.
Don't spend token for chaos upgrade.
Unlock the slots.


Sounds expensive. At the moment I only have 8 monsters and spend all my chaos tokens to upgrades as I fear buying more crystal packs to keep them happy even more than Penguinologists. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Feb 12 2019, 21:43
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QUOTE(hopkar @ Feb 12 2019, 20:29) *

I hate it when people are so vague .... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I would say somewhere after lvl 400. Sooner if one does actually forge his MM and PM.
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post Feb 12 2019, 21:44
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QUOTE(hopkar @ Feb 12 2019, 19:29) *

Sounds expensive. At the moment I only have 8 monsters and spend all my chaos tokens to upgrades as I fear buying more crystal packs to keep them happy even more than Penguinologists. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Create as many monsters as you can and stop inflate their PL at 25.
A crystal pack cost only 20k and it can keep your monster's morale for very long period.
Not to mention jackpots like CP, BoS , BoD, RA,
a single Binding of protection, Cheetah(30k), can already pay off.

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post Feb 12 2019, 21:55
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong. My highest monster is only lvl 288 and demands already 15.551 for the next up in its "main" attribute.
Maybe I just feed them more elemental mitigation crystal ... or feed them in longer intervals. But it's so hard to don't give in if the morality is already down over 2000 points and they look on me with their sad eyes filled with the urge to crush low level player but don't be able to (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Sure I get some bindings from time to time and could indeed sell them to feed my monsters .... but I'm a newbie and have no idea where the journey will get me so I fear selling the wrong one and hord them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

EDIT: Ok, just read that they should stay at lvl 25. That made my comment about the high cost look rather out of place so I take it back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Of course I will try to get at least one or two monsters up in the hope to get them scanned one day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 12 2019, 22:43) *

I would say somewhere after lvl 400. Sooner if one does actually forge his MM and PM.


You sure you wanted to quote me? That statement was actually a joke ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Feb 12 2019, 22:06
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Tbh i am allways confuse when people talk about using chaos token to "upgrade" their monster. I mean unlocking another slot does actually increase your income. Like qr did allready say, a single good gift and they have paid for everything they could need for a long time. But what do you get from upgrade them with chaos tokens? I mean with 8 monster, we are just talking about 14 token to get another guaranted gift. Can you actually upgrade your monster with 14 token to give you a guaranted second gift? No, you cant. So what about the "strenght" of that monster, will that matter? I mean assuming that everyone who has "problems" to keep their monster feed and happy, we are just talking about chow eating monster. Do you guys have any idea how many tousands of those monster are around? You have actually to be lucky to appear to a player in battle before he soon outlevel your monster and never encounter it again. Getting a win or even a kill, need even more luck and it is in the end nothing but luck or snowflake, or RNGesus and i what ever divinity you think is responsible. Personally i like it to put three chaos token into every new monster, but three chaos token i can make in a single arena and a new slot cost three digit, so imo it is no bad investment for me, just to have this low chance of getting a second gift. But the rest of the token they go into new monster. And i could allready been done with that and owning 200 monster if i didnt made the mistake of "upgrade" my monster with chaos token instead of unlock new slots. Well that and that fact that i was forced to hibernate the game for quite a while, but that is a different story.

tldr: Unlock more monster slots it is worth it. Dont put chaos token into monster it is not worth it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

QUOTE(hopkar @ Feb 12 2019, 20:55) *

You sure you wanted to quote me? That statement was actually a joke ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I just wanted to attach my post to the whole conversation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

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