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Any hath baron here featured on H@H toplist? Just out of curiosity, what's your total hathrate/day?

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 11 2019, 04:16

First one...
Grand Prize for September
No longer available
Winner: e-Stark

Second one...
Grand Prize for May
No longer available
Winner: e-Stark

and then...
Grand Prize for October
Peerless Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction
Winner: e-Stark

Well that is the first weapon you won that still exists (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well, it seems it was my 1st Peerless from lottery then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

(I never salvaged/bazzared a peerlees... at least that I remember of (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif))

Quick hypothetical question guys.
Say I have two rapiers (or any piece of equip for that matter)

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
And
Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter

Now, say that all the base stats are exactly the same (i.e. a good mag and a not so good leg)

Which one is better?
Or are they the same?
Does a Legendary scale better with forge/levels?
Or if the base stats are the same, it doesn't matter at all?

Forging scales only with base stats so it's gonna be the same. Not sure about soulfused scaling, I'd to say the same because % ranges will stay the same at any level.

The total pool of stat points is lower for mag, so while you can have a mag with stats that you care about with the same or higher than leg values, you won't find a mag with all stats exactly the same, unless it's from a different version.

This post has been edited by Nayas: Feb 11 2019, 08:01

you can have a mag with stats that you care about

That was what I was asking for :3
Thanks for the info!

Any hath baron here featured on H@H toplist? Just out of curiosity, what's your total hathrate/day?

Replying before some trolling DJNoni calls me a hath baron again...
I net around 200/day and oscillate between #35 and #49.

If you want to get in the top 10, then give up: it's a world for batshit crazy (and rich) people. Like RoadShoe.

Quick hypothetical question guys.
Say I have two rapiers (or any piece of equip for that matter)

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
And
Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter

Now, say that all the base stats are exactly the same (i.e. a good mag and a not so good leg)

Which one is better?
Or are they the same?
Does a Legendary scale better with forge/levels?
Or if the base stats are the same, it doesn't matter at all?

Make realistic hypothesis first, then we can talk. There's no way a Mag and Leg can have the exact same base stats everywhere.

Just to be sure, if % ranges levels scaling is accurate(I don't know any examples of it being wrong) level scaling on slaughter suffix is the same regardless of quality.
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144738399/c7e3c5a408
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/171285459/7210cdef03

The wiki isn't up-to-date. The equipment database receives next to no new equipment records and some scripts have got hardcoded values.
There is quite a lot of work to do, and sadly there are things that are of an even higher priority than that, while I barely have time to do anything at all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

It's been a while since I payed attention to it. If the db is still updating normally from scripts there should be PSA somewhere that it should be trusted before anything else.
You could post full data somewhere, preferably in a table form, and let volunteers take care of wiki and scripts. Ideally, need a script that formats data in a way that can be copypasted to wiki.
Don't push yourself though, that's fast way to burn out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Like a year ago I used stats from [reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/viewranges to update hardcoded values in toolbox script, is it still the most relevant information?

This post has been edited by Nayas: Feb 11 2019, 09:39

Replying before some trolling DJNoni calls me a hath baron again...
I net around 200/day and oscillate between #35 and #49.

If you want to get in the top 10, then give up: it's a world for batshit crazy (and rich) people. Like RoadShoe.
Make realistic hypothesis first, then we can talk. There's no way a Mag and Leg can have the exact same base stats everywhere.

lolol I guess they operate like fifty servers just for H@H I guess then. Nope I'm not gonna do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Just to be sure, if % ranges levels scaling is accurate(I don't know any examples of it being wrong) level scaling on slaughter suffix is the same regardless of quality.
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144738399/c7e3c5a408
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/171285459/7210cdef03
It's been a while since I payed attention to it. If the db is still updating normally from scripts there should be PSA somewhere that it should be trusted before anything else.
You could post full data somewhere, preferably in a table form, and let volunteers take care of wiki and scripts. Ideally, need a script that formats data in a way that can be copypasted to wiki.
Don't push yourself though, that's fast way to burn out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Like a year ago I used stats from [reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/viewranges to update hardcoded values in toolbox script, is it still the most relevant information?

I know the proper way to get updated stats for ranges safely, no worries. I also know who to ask for his tools to update the wiki, so that I can take care of it in his stead. The main issue is really that I don't have the time to do everything I'd like.

Super queries the equipment database to generate his own percentile data/cache BTW. I even remember helping him by designing the SQL queries to obtain the desired data.

I only make 3 hath a day, most of my life I had made 0, so I guess I'm not too spoiled.

I know the proper way to get updated stats for ranges safely, no worries. I also know who to ask for his tools to update the wiki, so that I can take care of it in his stead. The main issue is really that I don't have the time to do everything I'd like.

I'm not asking if you know it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'm asking to make it common knowledge for everyone where to get most relevant data.

I mean super's script thread says wiki ranges are updated from the Jenga's db, but apparently wiki is quite out of date? I just suggest that you could post raw data, you don't have to do everything yourself.

This post has been edited by Nayas: Feb 11 2019, 11:02

I only make 3 hath a day, most of my life I had made 0, so I guess I'm not too spoiled.

Yay same here lol I just started about a week ago and rn i'm netting 2.4/day haha

I'm not asking if you know it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'm asking to make it common knowledge for everyone where to get most relevant data.

I mean super's script thread says wiki ranges are updated from the Jenga's db, but apparently wiki is quite out of date? I just suggest that you could post raw data, you don't have to do everything yourself.

Not decently possible without a script. The database itself needs to be fed anyway.

Yay same here lol I just started about a week ago and rn i'm netting 2.4/day haha

Is it due to internet speed?
Cache size?

I'm running ~90-95 hath per day.
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/h7RIpzK.png)



Question guys!

What's more important for a mage's staff:
High MDB?
Spell damage bonus?
High proficiency?

Like say you have 6 choices:
1. 90% MDB, 50% EDB, 20% Elem prof
2. 50% MDB, 90% EDB, 20% Elem prof
3. 50% MDB, 20% EDB, 90% Elem prof
4. 90% MDB, 20% EDB, 50% Elem prof
5. 20% MDB, 90% EDB, 50% Elem prof
6. 20% MDB, 50% EDB, 90% Elem prof

Which do you pick?

Make realistic hypothesis first, then we can talk. There's no way a Mag and Leg can have the exact same base stats everywhere.

I said hypothetically.
I didn't say I'm making a hypothesis.

My scenario, though unrealistic (see -> definition of hypothetical), was to illustrate my question.

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 11 2019, 12:56

What's more important for a mage's staff:
High MDB?
Spell damage bonus?
High proficiency?

Like say you have 6 choices:
1. 90% MDB, 50% EDB, 20% Elem prof
2. 50% MDB, 90% EDB, 20% Elem prof
3. 50% MDB, 20% EDB, 90% Elem prof
4. 90% MDB, 20% EDB, 50% Elem prof
5. 20% MDB, 90% EDB, 50% Elem prof
6. 20% MDB, 50% EDB, 90% Elem prof

Which do you pick?

Basically I prefer MDB>prof>EDB.
So 4.

This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 11 2019, 12:59

I prefer MDB>prof>EDB.
So 4.

それやどうも！

Is it due to internet speed?
Cache size?

I'm running ~90-95 hath per day.
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/h7RIpzK.png)

Probably both. How long have you setup seedbox for? Only two weeks?
My trash ISP gives me only 10Mbps upload speed, so my average data sent is pretty pathetic - like 25kb/s
If that configuration nets you 90~95 haths a day, I might as well consider getting a VPS/seedbox...is your thing 1Gbps?

Probably both. How long have you setup seedbox for? Only two weeks?
My trash ISP gives me only 10Mbps upload speed, so my average data sent is pretty pathetic - like 25kb/s
If that configuration nets you 90~95 haths a day, I might as well consider getting a VPS/seedbox...is your thing 1Gbps?

Naw, I had it off a couple of times for a restart/power outage.

I started it back up ~early october last year. Sooo that would be ~4-5 months-ish.

It started out ~10-15 hath per day back when I began, but slowly crawled up.
It was ~80-85 around December.

And yes, it's "supposed" to be 1Gbps but to be fair it never really goes that high.
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/aPSsn7v.png)


Back in 2008-2009 I used to run H@H as well. And was getting like 2-3 hath per day :0
I think I used to have 10Mbps at the time. Though the Cache size was considerably smaller. I think around 200GB?

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 11 2019, 13:24

Question guys!

What's more important for a mage's staff:
High MDB?
Spell damage bonus?
High proficiency?

Like say you have 6 choices:
1. 90% MDB, 50% EDB, 20% Elem prof
2. 50% MDB, 90% EDB, 20% Elem prof
3. 50% MDB, 20% EDB, 90% Elem prof
4. 90% MDB, 20% EDB, 50% Elem prof
5. 20% MDB, 90% EDB, 50% Elem prof
6. 20% MDB, 50% EDB, 90% Elem prof

Which do you pick?


I said hypothetically.
I didn't say I'm making a hypothesis.

My scenario, though unrealistic (see -> definition of hypothetical), was to illustrate my question.

If you play redwood, 1 would also be fine maybe better than 4. Element dont need so much prof as dark. But yeah MDB first!

If you play redwood, 1 would also be fine maybe better than 4. Element dont need so much prof as dark. But yeah MDB first!

Noted!
Somehow managed to get 3 pretty decent cold mage phase pieces...
And not a single cold staff lol.