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Feb 11 2019, 03:18
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e-Stark
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 1,773
Joined: 20-May 13

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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 10 2019, 22:58)  Didn't know lottery #0 exists
I 'may' be wrong since my memory could just be tricking me (becoming old sucks)... but, iirc, we were able to access lottery 0 by url when "previous" and "next" buttons didn't exist in lottery page... trying to do so now doesn't work (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 10 2019, 22:58)  And I found your first lottery grand prize won in September (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I don't even track that myself (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) What did I won? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Was it my so beloved Peerless Wind Redwood of Destruction? (I know it was one of my first lottery winnings but don't know if it was the first) Man, this staff helped me so much when I was an Hurricane mage... good memories of that time, maybe I should forge my Wind set again... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) --- QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 10 2019, 23:00)  I remember the Legs, but not the Mags. Were they removed by the same update? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) No, lottery went live in 0.77 and could generate Mag equips, in 0.78 Mags were removed from lottery... don't remember when it become Peerless only (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Feb 11 2019, 03:43
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 11 2019, 02:18)  No, lottery went live in 0.77 and could generate Mag equips, in 0.78 Mags were removed from lottery... don't remember when it become Peerless only (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Just checked. Peerless only was 0.83. So allmost the same update. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 11 2019, 04:02
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sickentide
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 1,355
Joined: 31-August 10

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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 11 2019, 01:49)  a ) Fun Fact: Snowflake has a forum account which you can even send karma to... but it seems she doesn't have an HV account (if you try to moogle her you get an error msg) i believe sending MM to snowflake was disabled because people used it to "park" equipment so they could go over the inventory limit
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Feb 11 2019, 04:05
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mouisaac
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 31-March 18

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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 10 2019, 20:18)  What did I won? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Was it my so beloved Peerless Wind Redwood of Destruction? (I know it was one of my first lottery winnings but don't know if it was the first) First one... Grand Prize for September No longer available Winner: e-Stark Second one... Grand Prize for May No longer available Winner: e-Stark and then... Grand Prize for October Peerless Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction Winner: e-Stark Well that is the first weapon you won that still exists (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by mouisaac: Feb 11 2019, 04:06
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Feb 11 2019, 04:16
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14

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Any hath baron here featured on H@H toplist? Just out of curiosity, what's your total hathrate/day?
This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 11 2019, 04:16
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Feb 11 2019, 04:18
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e-Stark
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 1,773
Joined: 20-May 13

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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 11 2019, 00:05)  First one... Grand Prize for September No longer available Winner: e-Stark Second one... Grand Prize for May No longer available Winner: e-Stark and then... Grand Prize for October Peerless Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction Winner: e-Stark Well that is the first weapon you won that still exists (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, it seems it was my 1st Peerless from lottery then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (I never salvaged/bazzared a peerlees... at least that I remember of (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif))
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Feb 11 2019, 07:16
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 29-August 08

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Quick hypothetical question guys. Say I have two rapiers (or any piece of equip for that matter) Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter And Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter Now, say that all the base stats are exactly the same (i.e. a good mag and a not so good leg) Which one is better? Or are they the same? Does a Legendary scale better with forge/levels? Or if the base stats are the same, it doesn't matter at all?
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Feb 11 2019, 08:00
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Nayas
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Forging scales only with base stats so it's gonna be the same. Not sure about soulfused scaling, I'd to say the same because % ranges will stay the same at any level.
The total pool of stat points is lower for mag, so while you can have a mag with stats that you care about with the same or higher than leg values, you won't find a mag with all stats exactly the same, unless it's from a different version.
This post has been edited by Nayas: Feb 11 2019, 08:01
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Feb 11 2019, 08:15
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Nayas @ Feb 11 2019, 15:00)  you can have a mag with stats that you care about
That was what I was asking for :3 Thanks for the info!
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Feb 11 2019, 09:09
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 11 2019, 02:16)  Any hath baron here featured on H@H toplist? Just out of curiosity, what's your total hathrate/day?
Replying before some trolling DJNoni calls me a hath baron again... I net around 200/day and oscillate between #35 and #49. If you want to get in the top 10, then give up: it's a world for batshit crazy (and rich) people. Like RoadShoe. QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 11 2019, 05:16)  Quick hypothetical question guys. Say I have two rapiers (or any piece of equip for that matter) Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter And Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter Now, say that all the base stats are exactly the same (i.e. a good mag and a not so good leg) Which one is better? Or are they the same? Does a Legendary scale better with forge/levels? Or if the base stats are the same, it doesn't matter at all?
Make realistic hypothesis first, then we can talk. There's no way a Mag and Leg can have the exact same base stats everywhere.
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Feb 11 2019, 09:33
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Nayas
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Just to be sure, if % ranges levels scaling is accurate(I don't know any examples of it being wrong) level scaling on slaughter suffix is the same regardless of quality. https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144738399/c7e3c5a408https://hentaiverse.org/equip/171285459/7210cdef03QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 10 2019, 03:20)  The wiki isn't up-to-date. The equipment database receives next to no new equipment records and some scripts have got hardcoded values. There is quite a lot of work to do, and sadly there are things that are of an even higher priority than that, while I barely have time to do anything at all. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) It's been a while since I payed attention to it. If the db is still updating normally from scripts there should be PSA somewhere that it should be trusted before anything else. You could post full data somewhere, preferably in a table form, and let volunteers take care of wiki and scripts. Ideally, need a script that formats data in a way that can be copypasted to wiki. Don't push yourself though, that's fast way to burn out. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Like a year ago I used stats from [ reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/viewranges to update hardcoded values in toolbox script, is it still the most relevant information? This post has been edited by Nayas: Feb 11 2019, 09:39
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Feb 11 2019, 09:44
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 11 2019, 02:09)  Replying before some trolling DJNoni calls me a hath baron again... I net around 200/day and oscillate between #35 and #49.
If you want to get in the top 10, then give up: it's a world for batshit crazy (and rich) people. Like RoadShoe. Make realistic hypothesis first, then we can talk. There's no way a Mag and Leg can have the exact same base stats everywhere.
lolol I guess they operate like fifty servers just for H@H I guess then. Nope I'm not gonna do it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Feb 11 2019, 10:00
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(Nayas @ Feb 11 2019, 07:33)  Just to be sure, if % ranges levels scaling is accurate(I don't know any examples of it being wrong) level scaling on slaughter suffix is the same regardless of quality. https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144738399/c7e3c5a408https://hentaiverse.org/equip/171285459/7210cdef03It's been a while since I payed attention to it. If the db is still updating normally from scripts there should be PSA somewhere that it should be trusted before anything else. You could post full data somewhere, preferably in a table form, and let volunteers take care of wiki and scripts. Ideally, need a script that formats data in a way that can be copypasted to wiki. Don't push yourself though, that's fast way to burn out. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Like a year ago I used stats from [ reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/viewranges to update hardcoded values in toolbox script, is it still the most relevant information? I know the proper way to get updated stats for ranges safely, no worries. I also know who to ask for his tools to update the wiki, so that I can take care of it in his stead. The main issue is really that I don't have the time to do everything I'd like. Super queries the equipment database to generate his own percentile data/cache BTW. I even remember helping him by designing the SQL queries to obtain the desired data.
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Feb 11 2019, 10:15
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BlueWaterSplash
Group: Members
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Joined: 15-March 11

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I only make 3 hath a day, most of my life I had made 0, so I guess I'm not too spoiled.
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Feb 11 2019, 10:36
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Nayas
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Joined: 6-February 11

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 11 2019, 11:00)  I know the proper way to get updated stats for ranges safely, no worries. I also know who to ask for his tools to update the wiki, so that I can take care of it in his stead. The main issue is really that I don't have the time to do everything I'd like.
I'm not asking if you know it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'm asking to make it common knowledge for everyone where to get most relevant data. I mean super's script thread says wiki ranges are updated from the Jenga's db, but apparently wiki is quite out of date? I just suggest that you could post raw data, you don't have to do everything yourself. This post has been edited by Nayas: Feb 11 2019, 11:02
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Feb 11 2019, 10:54
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Feb 11 2019, 03:15)  I only make 3 hath a day, most of my life I had made 0, so I guess I'm not too spoiled.
Yay same here lol I just started about a week ago and rn i'm netting 2.4/day haha
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Feb 11 2019, 11:16
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(Nayas @ Feb 11 2019, 08:36)  I'm not asking if you know it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'm asking to make it common knowledge for everyone where to get most relevant data. I mean super's script thread says wiki ranges are updated from the Jenga's db, but apparently wiki is quite out of date? I just suggest that you could post raw data, you don't have to do everything yourself. Not decently possible without a script. The database itself needs to be fed anyway.
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Feb 11 2019, 12:52
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 29-August 08

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 11 2019, 17:54)  Yay same here lol I just started about a week ago and rn i'm netting 2.4/day haha
Is it due to internet speed? Cache size? I'm running ~90-95 hath per day. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/h7RIpzK.png) Question guys! What's more important for a mage's staff: High MDB? Spell damage bonus? High proficiency? Like say you have 6 choices: 1. 90% MDB, 50% EDB, 20% Elem prof 2. 50% MDB, 90% EDB, 20% Elem prof 3. 50% MDB, 20% EDB, 90% Elem prof 4. 90% MDB, 20% EDB, 50% Elem prof 5. 20% MDB, 90% EDB, 50% Elem prof 6. 20% MDB, 50% EDB, 90% Elem prof Which do you pick? QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 11 2019, 16:09)  Make realistic hypothesis first, then we can talk. There's no way a Mag and Leg can have the exact same base stats everywhere.
I said hypothetically. I didn't say I'm making a hypothesis. My scenario, though unrealistic (see -> definition of hypothetical), was to illustrate my question. This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 11 2019, 12:56
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Feb 11 2019, 12:56
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qr12345
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 11 2019, 10:52)  What's more important for a mage's staff: High MDB? Spell damage bonus? High proficiency? Like say you have 6 choices: 1. 90% MDB, 50% EDB, 20% Elem prof 2. 50% MDB, 90% EDB, 20% Elem prof 3. 50% MDB, 20% EDB, 90% Elem prof 4. 90% MDB, 20% EDB, 50% Elem prof 5. 20% MDB, 90% EDB, 50% Elem prof 6. 20% MDB, 50% EDB, 90% Elem prof Which do you pick?
Basically I prefer MDB>prof>EDB. So 4. This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 11 2019, 12:59
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Feb 11 2019, 12:59
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 11 2019, 19:56)  I prefer MDB>prof>EDB. So 4.
それやどうも!
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