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post Feb 11 2019, 02:03
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 10 2019, 14:00) *


Just a thought flashed my mind, what would happen if everyone hit DO NOT WANT?


I got this feeling it would probably have a funny "supo" name win it.

I'd like to see what 10b defaulted that to. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 11 2019, 02:23
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a) I didn't even know Tenboro had a HentaiVerse account but I suppose anyone with a forum account may have one
b) If it came from lottery how come that staff isn't soulfused?
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post Feb 11 2019, 02:34
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Feb 10 2019, 19:23) *

a) I didn't even know Tenboro had a HentaiVerse account but I suppose anyone with a forum account may have one
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) If it came from lottery how come that staff isn't soulfused?


Old lottery prizes are not soul-fused so it's possible
gonna check it later
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post Feb 11 2019, 02:34
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Feb 11 2019, 01:23) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) If it came from lottery how come that staff isn't soulfused?

Well, i dont know if it actually came from lottery, but at the beginning the equipment from the lottery was not soulfused. Soulfusing itself is iirc younger than the lottery.
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post Feb 11 2019, 02:49
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Feb 10 2019, 22:23) *

a) I didn't even know Tenboro had a HentaiVerse account but I suppose anyone with a forum account may have one
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) If it came from lottery how come that staff isn't soulfused?

a ) Fun Fact: Snowflake has a forum account which you can even send karma to... but it seems she doesn't have an HV account (if you try to moogle her you get an error msg)

b ) It's from pre-soulbounding era, when equips didn't have level (Lottery is as old as 0.77 patch), I can't find the lottery link anymore, iirc it was from lottery #0 (probably just a test), but lottery 0 can't be accessed anymore...

Fun Facts: Before our current iteration, lotteries weren't limited to Peerless and could generate Legendary equipments too... and before that, in its' begginings, lotteries could even generate Magnificent equipments.

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post Feb 11 2019, 02:58
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 10 2019, 19:49) *

a ) Fun Fact: Snowflake has a forum account which you can even send karma to... but it seems she doesn't have an HV account (if you try to moogle her you get an error msg)

b ) It's from pre-soulbounding era, when equips didn't have level (Lottery is as old as 0.77 patch), I can't find the lottery link anymore, iirc it was from lottery #0 (probably just a test), but lottery 0 can't be accessed anymore...

Fun Facts: Before our current iteration, lotteries weren't limited to Peerless and could generate Legendary equipments too... and before that, in its' begginings, lotteries could even generate Magnificent equipments.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I found these facts out when I went through the whole lottery history last year. Didn't know lottery #0 exists!

And I found your first lottery grand prize won in September (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 11 2019, 03:00
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 11 2019, 01:49) *

weren't limited to Peerless and could generate Legendary equipments too... and before that, in its' begginings, lotteries could even generate Magnificent equipments.

I remember the Legs, but not the Mags. Were they removed by the same update? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 11 2019, 03:18
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 10 2019, 22:58) *
Didn't know lottery #0 exists

I 'may' be wrong since my memory could just be tricking me (becoming old sucks)... but, iirc, we were able to access lottery 0 by url when "previous" and "next" buttons didn't exist in lottery page... trying to do so now doesn't work (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 10 2019, 22:58) *
And I found your first lottery grand prize won in September (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't even track that myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What did I won? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Was it my so beloved Peerless Wind Redwood of Destruction? (I know it was one of my first lottery winnings but don't know if it was the first)

Man, this staff helped me so much when I was an Hurricane mage... good memories of that time, maybe I should forge my Wind set again... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 10 2019, 23:00) *
I remember the Legs, but not the Mags. Were they removed by the same update? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

No, lottery went live in 0.77 and could generate Mag equips, in 0.78 Mags were removed from lottery... don't remember when it become Peerless only (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 11 2019, 03:43
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 11 2019, 02:18) *

No, lottery went live in 0.77 and could generate Mag equips, in 0.78 Mags were removed from lottery... don't remember when it become Peerless only (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Just checked. Peerless only was 0.83. So allmost the same update. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 11 2019, 04:02
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 11 2019, 01:49) *

a ) Fun Fact: Snowflake has a forum account which you can even send karma to... but it seems she doesn't have an HV account (if you try to moogle her you get an error msg)

i believe sending MM to snowflake was disabled because people used it to "park" equipment so they could go over the inventory limit
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post Feb 11 2019, 04:05
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 10 2019, 20:18) *

What did I won? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Was it my so beloved Peerless Wind Redwood of Destruction? (I know it was one of my first lottery winnings but don't know if it was the first)


First one...
Grand Prize for September
No longer available
Winner: e-Stark

Second one...
Grand Prize for May
No longer available
Winner: e-Stark

and then...
Grand Prize for October
Peerless Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction
Winner: e-Stark

Well that is the first weapon you won that still exists (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Feb 11 2019, 04:16
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Any hath baron here featured on H@H toplist? Just out of curiosity, what's your total hathrate/day?

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post Feb 11 2019, 04:18
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 11 2019, 00:05) *
First one...
Grand Prize for September
No longer available
Winner: e-Stark

Second one...
Grand Prize for May
No longer available
Winner: e-Stark

and then...
Grand Prize for October
Peerless Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction
Winner: e-Stark

Well that is the first weapon you won that still exists (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well, it seems it was my 1st Peerless from lottery then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

(I never salvaged/bazzared a peerlees... at least that I remember of (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif))
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post Feb 11 2019, 07:16
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Quick hypothetical question guys.
Say I have two rapiers (or any piece of equip for that matter)

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
And
Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter

Now, say that all the base stats are exactly the same (i.e. a good mag and a not so good leg)

Which one is better?
Or are they the same?
Does a Legendary scale better with forge/levels?
Or if the base stats are the same, it doesn't matter at all?
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post Feb 11 2019, 08:00
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Forging scales only with base stats so it's gonna be the same. Not sure about soulfused scaling, I'd to say the same because % ranges will stay the same at any level.

The total pool of stat points is lower for mag, so while you can have a mag with stats that you care about with the same or higher than leg values, you won't find a mag with all stats exactly the same, unless it's from a different version.

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post Feb 11 2019, 08:15
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QUOTE(Nayas @ Feb 11 2019, 15:00) *

you can have a mag with stats that you care about

That was what I was asking for :3
Thanks for the info!
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post Feb 11 2019, 09:09
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 11 2019, 02:16) *

Any hath baron here featured on H@H toplist? Just out of curiosity, what's your total hathrate/day?

Replying before some trolling DJNoni calls me a hath baron again...
I net around 200/day and oscillate between #35 and #49.

If you want to get in the top 10, then give up: it's a world for batshit crazy (and rich) people. Like RoadShoe.

QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 11 2019, 05:16) *

Quick hypothetical question guys.
Say I have two rapiers (or any piece of equip for that matter)

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
And
Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter

Now, say that all the base stats are exactly the same (i.e. a good mag and a not so good leg)

Which one is better?
Or are they the same?
Does a Legendary scale better with forge/levels?
Or if the base stats are the same, it doesn't matter at all?

Make realistic hypothesis first, then we can talk. There's no way a Mag and Leg can have the exact same base stats everywhere.
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post Feb 11 2019, 09:33
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Just to be sure, if % ranges levels scaling is accurate(I don't know any examples of it being wrong) level scaling on slaughter suffix is the same regardless of quality.
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144738399/c7e3c5a408
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/171285459/7210cdef03

QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 10 2019, 03:20) *

The wiki isn't up-to-date. The equipment database receives next to no new equipment records and some scripts have got hardcoded values.
There is quite a lot of work to do, and sadly there are things that are of an even higher priority than that, while I barely have time to do anything at all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

It's been a while since I payed attention to it. If the db is still updating normally from scripts there should be PSA somewhere that it should be trusted before anything else.
You could post full data somewhere, preferably in a table form, and let volunteers take care of wiki and scripts. Ideally, need a script that formats data in a way that can be copypasted to wiki.
Don't push yourself though, that's fast way to burn out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Like a year ago I used stats from [reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/viewranges to update hardcoded values in toolbox script, is it still the most relevant information?

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post Feb 11 2019, 09:44
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 11 2019, 02:09) *

Replying before some trolling DJNoni calls me a hath baron again...
I net around 200/day and oscillate between #35 and #49.

If you want to get in the top 10, then give up: it's a world for batshit crazy (and rich) people. Like RoadShoe.
Make realistic hypothesis first, then we can talk. There's no way a Mag and Leg can have the exact same base stats everywhere.


lolol I guess they operate like fifty servers just for H@H I guess then. Nope I'm not gonna do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 11 2019, 10:00
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QUOTE(Nayas @ Feb 11 2019, 07:33) *

Just to be sure, if % ranges levels scaling is accurate(I don't know any examples of it being wrong) level scaling on slaughter suffix is the same regardless of quality.
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144738399/c7e3c5a408
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/171285459/7210cdef03
It's been a while since I payed attention to it. If the db is still updating normally from scripts there should be PSA somewhere that it should be trusted before anything else.
You could post full data somewhere, preferably in a table form, and let volunteers take care of wiki and scripts. Ideally, need a script that formats data in a way that can be copypasted to wiki.
Don't push yourself though, that's fast way to burn out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Like a year ago I used stats from [reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/viewranges to update hardcoded values in toolbox script, is it still the most relevant information?

I know the proper way to get updated stats for ranges safely, no worries. I also know who to ask for his tools to update the wiki, so that I can take care of it in his stead. The main issue is really that I don't have the time to do everything I'd like.

Super queries the equipment database to generate his own percentile data/cache BTW. I even remember helping him by designing the SQL queries to obtain the desired data.
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