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post Feb 5 2019, 05:57
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Feb 4 2019, 22:40) *

Thinking about trying an experiment with 1h mage but want to check if it has already been done first.

So much time is taken in the imperil turns with monsters resisting that I'm wondering whether a cotton of curse-weaver might actually speed things up (likely not in terms of turns, but might be faster in real time as imperil takes more time per turn).

If it's worth a try, should I replace a cotton or a phase? My experience has been that 3+2 is better than 4+1 for 1h mage, which suggests that perhaps replacing a phase is better?

Edit: or maybe it would work better if I take proficiency cotton on robes and curse-weaver on gloves or shoes which allows for 3 phases?


I know you have likely already considered it, but if you don't have the deprecating hath perk I know it has been viewed favorably here. Plus it won't take a gear slot.
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post Feb 5 2019, 06:13
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Feb 4 2019, 22:57) *

I know you have likely already considered it, but if you don't have the deprecating hath perk I know it has been viewed favorably here. Plus it won't take a gear slot.


Thanks! Yeah, I do have the perk which is helpful, but still not landing imperil as reliably as I'd like (mage with willow staff lands imperil so much reliably that I'm a bit spoiled) XD Part of that is due to the counter-resist, but I do wonder whether having a bit more effective dep proficiency than 485 will help.
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post Feb 5 2019, 08:31
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Feb 5 2019, 04:40) *

Thinking about trying an experiment with 1h mage but want to check if it has already been done first.

So much time is taken in the imperil turns with monsters resisting that I'm wondering whether a cotton of curse-weaver might actually speed things up (likely not in terms of turns, but might be faster in real time as imperil takes more time per turn).

If it's worth a try, should I replace a cotton or a phase? My experience has been that 3+2 is better than 4+1 for 1h mage, which suggests that perhaps replacing a phase is better?

Edit: or maybe it would work better if I take proficiency cotton on robes and curse-weaver on gloves or shoes which allows for 3 phases?


I've never tried 1h mage with curse-weaver, but I would think that you sacrifice too much fire-power. I would at least keep 1 prof cotton, if you try. So probably try 3phase 1 prof 1 curse-weaver. But I expect it to suck.
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post Feb 5 2019, 08:40
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By when do I have to reach 200% Physical Accuracy as 1H+Heavy armor? Currently my level is 283 and the physical accuracy is 143,9%. If I were to reach 200% only with equipment, I'll have to swap everything to balance suffix and it still might not be enough, so I was thinking of enchanting with voidseeker shard if it can significantly lower arena clear time (currently takes about 12~15min on 80~100 rounds on IWBTH)

Also my magic accuracy is 90%, how much do I want??
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:04
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Voidseeker should solve your accuracy problem, but are you sure you're getting evaded and not parried? I had this issue and turned off Monsterbation to investigate, and they were mostly parrying.

Magic accuracy is for imperil, if you don't spam it (which you shouldn't unless SG anyway), well if you feel like you're frustrated about too many missing imperils.
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:08
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 07:40) *

By when do I have to reach 200% Physical Accuracy as 1H+Heavy armor?
Iirc for me it was around 450 or so. But i didnt actually forge hit chance.

QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 07:40) *

Currently my level is 283 and the physical accuracy is 143,9%. If I were to reach 200% only with equipment, I'll have to swap everything to balance suffix and it still might not be enough,
143 sounds got to me at your level. So i would not suggest to switch equipment just for increasing accuracy.
QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 07:40) *

so I was thinking of enchanting with voidseeker shard if it can significantly lower arena clear time (currently takes about 12~15min on 80~100 rounds on IWBTH)
Could be worth a try. Will you let us know about the results?
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Also my magic accuracy is 90%, how much do I want??
When you play 1H you dont even care about it.
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:18
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Feb 5 2019, 03:40) *
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That won't do any good. I've tried that, as just regular, redwood staff mage.
You'll be losing firepower (phase) and/or counter-resist (cotton) for something that actually won't make a real difference.

Basically, you will certainly land Imperil better, no doubt about it, but:
1 - You'll still be failing to land it on some monsters no matter what
2 - It'll take more time for you to kill just all monsters, imperiled or not
3 - And in the end you'll have to tank more attacks, which is no good
4 - It'll take you even longer to finish the job on monsters that won't get imperil'ed anyway, and you'll double the furstration because you'll be wasting your time on only one of these things instead of 2.
5 - Overall, you'll be slower

IMHO, considering a CW in a set may be a good idea only if taking off a phase or a cotton will barely make any difference at all. Which is certainly not the case for a 1H build.

QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 06:40) *

By when do I have to reach 200% Physical Accuracy as 1H+Heavy armor? Currently my level is 283 and the physical accuracy is 143,9%. If I were to reach 200% only with equipment, I'll have to swap everything to balance suffix and it still might not be enough, so I was thinking of enchanting with voidseeker shard if it can significantly lower arena clear time (currently takes about 12~15min on 80~100 rounds on IWBTH)

Also my magic accuracy is 90%, how much do I want??

I had a Balance 1H with Overpower 5 (20% counter parry) at your level, and I was close to 200% attack accuracy. That was a blast. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
No need for Balance power armor. Just forge 5 a Balance 1H and invest some points in your Dex, that should do the job.
You should forget magic accuracy for now. Investing points in wisdom is your only way to increase it, but it's extremely expensive. Even I am still not at 100% (99.4%), even though I spam Imperil as 1H.

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post Feb 5 2019, 09:18
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I had pretty close to 200% around lvl 300-330 with a balance rapier and I think a balance armor, but with slaughter I'm 190% right now.
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:18
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Thanks for the replies, guys! Well I don't think I have (or at least I'm not aware of) a problem pertaining to low accuracy, but since everybody's saying 200% is a must, I was wondering about it.

I'm willing to try it out, but I honestly think it will be within margin of error.

"Accuracy exceeding 200% is useless" is inherently established by how accuracy works, but "Accuracy of 200% is of utmost necessity," I don't really know. I guess it's not something that's been investigated much since it is naturally reachable without balance suffix or voidseeker shard for most by just levelling up.
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:34
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 08:18) *

but since everybody's saying 200% is a must, I was wondering about it.
200% just means monster can no longer evade your attacks. So imo nice to have, but not a must have at all cost asap.
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:41
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True that. I guess in most context what I saw was more like if someone had 230% accuracy, everyone would say you don't need that much so replace that balance gear to something else lol.

By the way, uncle stu, when I do forge 5, which stats do I increase for rapier and shield? I'm not gonna touch my armor cuz each upgrade requires repurposed actuator and there is no way in hell I'm gonna waste it on my current gears lol. I'll put what I thought below and any comment would be nice.

Rapier - dmg, hit chance, crit chance, parry, str bonuse, dex bonus
shield - block

Shield also requires the modulator, so I don't want to really upgrade dfense and PAB.
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:50
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I think it's cheap to forge all stats to lv. 5 since you don't need binding to do so...
as for special mats like modulator, you only need 1 per lv. and it affect every stats...
so if you already forge block to lv. 5, you don't need more modulator if you want to forge the other stats to lv. 5...
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post Feb 5 2019, 10:05
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 5 2019, 02:50) *

I think it's cheap to forge all stats to lv. 5 since you don't need binding to do so...
as for special mats like modulator, you only need 1 per lv. and it affect every stats...
so if you already forge block to lv. 5, you don't need more modulator if you want to forge the other stats to lv. 5...


Oh really? That's nice to know huh. Well still I'm not gonna shell out 300k on exq power armor, but in that case I should upgrade everything possible lol. Thanks!
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post Feb 5 2019, 10:32
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 09:05) *

Oh really? That's nice to know huh.

*cough*
Copy paste from the ingame forge text:

Rare equipment types will also require a special component to upgrade. This component is only needed to increase the highest stat - if you previously spent five of them to increase a stat to Level 5 then every other stat can be increased to Level 5 without spending any additional rare components.
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post Feb 5 2019, 11:51
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Are there any tips for getting max savings from the hath exchange? I know that the prices vary depending on the sellers and buyers but should I save my credits until the prices are acceptable to me or should I just spend them right off the bat?
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post Feb 5 2019, 11:59
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Are there any tips for getting max savings from the hath exchange? I know that the prices vary depending on the sellers and buyers but should I save my credits until the prices are acceptable to me or should I just spend them right off the bat?

Just bid at a price you want.
Spending time for those negligible differences is not worthy.
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post Feb 5 2019, 13:13
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 5 2019, 02:18) *

I had a Balance 1H with Overpower 5 (20% counter parry) at your level, and I was close to 200% attack accuracy. That was a blast. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
No need for Balance power armor. Just forge 5 a Balance 1H and invest some points in your Dex, that should do the job.
You should forget magic accuracy for now. Investing points in wisdom is your only way to increase it, but it's extremely expensive. Even I am still not at 100% (99.4%), even though I spam Imperil as 1H.


So I guess 200% accuracy do make a difference as to choose balance over slaughter? I'm looking into legendary rapier and so far I've been limiting my search only to slaughter, but maybe I should consider balance as well.
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post Feb 5 2019, 13:15
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 12:13) *

so far I've been limiting my search only to slaughter,

At your level? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Feb 5 2019, 13:17
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For power armor, no. But I thought the best suffix for weapon is slaughter regardless of level?

Also, does tokenizer only increase chaos token and leave blood token loot chance as it is? I'm clearing second page of arena everyday and I only get like 3 blood tokens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'd consider getting tokenizer to solve this issue if it does the job, but if it does not, how would I guarantee five tokens to do daily FSM? Should I ditch exp and complete the first arena as well?

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 12:17) *

For power armor, no. But I thought the best suffix for weapon is slaughter regardless of level?

Okay, that was a little missunderstanding from me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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Also, does tokenizer only increase chaos token and leave blood token loot chance as it is?
Yeah, that is sort of how it works, i mean i have token II atm and i didnt notice any increase of blood tokens.
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how would I guarantee five tokens to do daily FSM? Should I ditch exp and complete the first arena as well?
Tbh when you want to do the FSM on a daily basis and that for sure, even all arenas could be not enough for that. So, when that is all you do, counting on some breaks because you will encounter some days you just wont have enough.
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