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post Feb 4 2019, 20:14
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Here's a list of pros and cons:

Pro:
Gear level up with you. Very minor stat per level, but it adds up.
Gains twice PxP at item world.

Cons:
A lot of people do IW10 for you for free at your level, you shouldn't be doing IW at all due to inefficiency and difficulty
You will most likely find better gears as you level up. Or the very least, can buy better gears - which you can resell to at least recover a good fraction of your purchase.
You lose soul fragments, though if you never soulfuse they're worthless anyway.
You lose the ability to sell it for some extra cash once it outlive its usefulness

Quick edit: Been (re-playing?) playing for a little over a week, was at lvl100.

Been strictly using just this: [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/82217062/7a5dd09e53

So far, it does it's job Ok-ish. So if you want to IW10, upgrade and forget, it 'could' do for convenience. So, Exquisite would work, but not reallly recommended.

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post Feb 4 2019, 20:24
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 21:14) *

Here's a list of pros and cons:

Pro:
Gear level up with you. Very minor stat per level, but it adds up.
Gains twice PxP at item world.

Cons:
A lot of people do IW10 for you for free at your level, you shouldn't be doing IW at all due to inefficiency and difficulty
You will most likely find better gears as you level up. Or the very least, can buy better gears - which you can resell to at least recover a good fraction of your purchase.
You lose soul fragments, though if you never soulfuse they're worthless anyway.
You lose the ability to sell it for some extra cash once it outlive its usefulness


Didn't know about the free IW10, that's nice to know, ty.
So what matters here is how long it'll be useful right? And it's quite debatable with Exquisites but with Magnificient it's insured to be useful.

In this case, I should wait for some Magnificient stuff. Maybe I'll just soulfuse my rapier since I'm having a hard time to find better.

Thanks again for your fast reply.

Edit: To reply to your edit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Good to know it still do a ok job. I'll wait a bit trying to find better otherwise I'll do the same like you.

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post Feb 4 2019, 21:06
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 19:14) *

Gains twice PxP at item world.

Tbh that is even a contra to me. I mean imo best strategy to IW something is make the first round so that two Potencies get unlocked so that you dont waste an amnesia shards. twice the PxP means in that case you have to play on a lower difficulty as without, means less income. And when you have something to reforge 50 or more times, we allready talking about a few k i personally would like to have. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 4 2019, 21:07
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Exquisite have a soul bound price of 250, Mag/Leg is 500, so you might wanna consider that as well.

Magnificent gears should drop more frequently as you increase difficulty, and occasionally a legendary, but overall WTS and auctions should be a good place for gear scouting. Take a look at the gears there and their level first to get an idea of what gears you'll be seeing
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post Feb 4 2019, 21:09
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 4 2019, 14:06) *

Tbh that is even a contra to me. I mean imo best strategy to IW something is make the first round so that two Potencies get unlocked so that you dont waste an amnesia shards. twice the PxP means in that case you have to play on a lower difficulty as without, means less income. And when you have something to reforge 50 or more times, we allready talking about a few k i personally would like to have. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


First world problem?
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post Feb 4 2019, 21:19
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First world problem?

What? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Feb 4 2019, 21:23
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[www.urbandictionary.com] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...orld%20Problems
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post Feb 4 2019, 21:39
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*sigh* Okay, let me try somethingelse.

Context?

off topic: I cant even tell you all how much i hate this "first world problem" bullshit. Just a few days ago a little girl did suicide in germany. Part of the first world, so her problems were "first world problems" and those problem were so big, so overhelming for her, that she killed herself, eleven years old. And i promose, the next person in RL who will come to me with this "first world problem" bullshit. Will regret deeply to use that therm. off topic end.

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post Feb 4 2019, 21:52
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There's appropriate and inappropriate use for that term. Regardless, I don't think any sane person would use 'first world problems' to describe a suicide.

I used it to describe your problem: a mild inconvenience in what otherwise is considered a premium. That is not to say it isn't a problem, but rather it's a 'premium' problem. Considering how most of us down here struggles to even clear IW on low difficulty, I'd believe it's use is appropriate.
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post Feb 4 2019, 21:56
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 20:52) *
I don't think any sane person would use 'first world problems' to describe a suicide.

And i dont think that something like a sane person does even exist out there.

And i didnt had a problem. All i did make was telling my opinion about a cretain matter, in this case the PxP bonus of soulfused equipment and i did explain why i think about it that way. Did you notice the first sentence of my post? It was
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 4 2019, 20:06) *
Tbh that is even a contra to me.

So everything that came after that is 1. an oppinion 2. from my personal view. 3. nothing that would be true for everyone because of 2. Any questions?
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post Feb 4 2019, 22:03
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1. It's an inconvenience. A problem.
2. It arose from what otherwise would be a convenience.

Fits the description? Even if the problem is unique to your situation, or it also applies to many others, it's still... a problem. Unless in your own opinion, it isn't a problem, but that's not how I was led to believe.

Why are we even having a conversation about this though?
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post Feb 4 2019, 22:15
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Why are we even having a conversation about this though?

Because you started it and i end it now.
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post Feb 5 2019, 05:40
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Thinking about trying an experiment with 1h mage but want to check if it has already been done first.

So much time is taken in the imperil turns with monsters resisting that I'm wondering whether a cotton of curse-weaver might actually speed things up (likely not in terms of turns, but might be faster in real time as imperil takes more time per turn).

If it's worth a try, should I replace a cotton or a phase? My experience has been that 3+2 is better than 4+1 for 1h mage, which suggests that perhaps replacing a phase is better?

Edit: or maybe it would work better if I take proficiency cotton on robes and curse-weaver on gloves or shoes which allows for 3 phases?

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post Feb 5 2019, 05:57
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Feb 4 2019, 22:40) *

Thinking about trying an experiment with 1h mage but want to check if it has already been done first.

So much time is taken in the imperil turns with monsters resisting that I'm wondering whether a cotton of curse-weaver might actually speed things up (likely not in terms of turns, but might be faster in real time as imperil takes more time per turn).

If it's worth a try, should I replace a cotton or a phase? My experience has been that 3+2 is better than 4+1 for 1h mage, which suggests that perhaps replacing a phase is better?

Edit: or maybe it would work better if I take proficiency cotton on robes and curse-weaver on gloves or shoes which allows for 3 phases?


I know you have likely already considered it, but if you don't have the deprecating hath perk I know it has been viewed favorably here. Plus it won't take a gear slot.
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post Feb 5 2019, 06:13
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Feb 4 2019, 22:57) *

I know you have likely already considered it, but if you don't have the deprecating hath perk I know it has been viewed favorably here. Plus it won't take a gear slot.


Thanks! Yeah, I do have the perk which is helpful, but still not landing imperil as reliably as I'd like (mage with willow staff lands imperil so much reliably that I'm a bit spoiled) XD Part of that is due to the counter-resist, but I do wonder whether having a bit more effective dep proficiency than 485 will help.
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post Feb 5 2019, 08:31
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Feb 5 2019, 04:40) *

Thinking about trying an experiment with 1h mage but want to check if it has already been done first.

So much time is taken in the imperil turns with monsters resisting that I'm wondering whether a cotton of curse-weaver might actually speed things up (likely not in terms of turns, but might be faster in real time as imperil takes more time per turn).

If it's worth a try, should I replace a cotton or a phase? My experience has been that 3+2 is better than 4+1 for 1h mage, which suggests that perhaps replacing a phase is better?

Edit: or maybe it would work better if I take proficiency cotton on robes and curse-weaver on gloves or shoes which allows for 3 phases?


I've never tried 1h mage with curse-weaver, but I would think that you sacrifice too much fire-power. I would at least keep 1 prof cotton, if you try. So probably try 3phase 1 prof 1 curse-weaver. But I expect it to suck.
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post Feb 5 2019, 08:40
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By when do I have to reach 200% Physical Accuracy as 1H+Heavy armor? Currently my level is 283 and the physical accuracy is 143,9%. If I were to reach 200% only with equipment, I'll have to swap everything to balance suffix and it still might not be enough, so I was thinking of enchanting with voidseeker shard if it can significantly lower arena clear time (currently takes about 12~15min on 80~100 rounds on IWBTH)

Also my magic accuracy is 90%, how much do I want??
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:04
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Voidseeker should solve your accuracy problem, but are you sure you're getting evaded and not parried? I had this issue and turned off Monsterbation to investigate, and they were mostly parrying.

Magic accuracy is for imperil, if you don't spam it (which you shouldn't unless SG anyway), well if you feel like you're frustrated about too many missing imperils.
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:08
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 07:40) *

By when do I have to reach 200% Physical Accuracy as 1H+Heavy armor?
Iirc for me it was around 450 or so. But i didnt actually forge hit chance.

QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 07:40) *

Currently my level is 283 and the physical accuracy is 143,9%. If I were to reach 200% only with equipment, I'll have to swap everything to balance suffix and it still might not be enough,
143 sounds got to me at your level. So i would not suggest to switch equipment just for increasing accuracy.
QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 07:40) *

so I was thinking of enchanting with voidseeker shard if it can significantly lower arena clear time (currently takes about 12~15min on 80~100 rounds on IWBTH)
Could be worth a try. Will you let us know about the results?
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Also my magic accuracy is 90%, how much do I want??
When you play 1H you dont even care about it.
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post Feb 5 2019, 09:18
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That won't do any good. I've tried that, as just regular, redwood staff mage.
You'll be losing firepower (phase) and/or counter-resist (cotton) for something that actually won't make a real difference.

Basically, you will certainly land Imperil better, no doubt about it, but:
1 - You'll still be failing to land it on some monsters no matter what
2 - It'll take more time for you to kill just all monsters, imperiled or not
3 - And in the end you'll have to tank more attacks, which is no good
4 - It'll take you even longer to finish the job on monsters that won't get imperil'ed anyway, and you'll double the furstration because you'll be wasting your time on only one of these things instead of 2.
5 - Overall, you'll be slower

IMHO, considering a CW in a set may be a good idea only if taking off a phase or a cotton will barely make any difference at all. Which is certainly not the case for a 1H build.

QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 5 2019, 06:40) *

By when do I have to reach 200% Physical Accuracy as 1H+Heavy armor? Currently my level is 283 and the physical accuracy is 143,9%. If I were to reach 200% only with equipment, I'll have to swap everything to balance suffix and it still might not be enough, so I was thinking of enchanting with voidseeker shard if it can significantly lower arena clear time (currently takes about 12~15min on 80~100 rounds on IWBTH)

Also my magic accuracy is 90%, how much do I want??

I had a Balance 1H with Overpower 5 (20% counter parry) at your level, and I was close to 200% attack accuracy. That was a blast. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
No need for Balance power armor. Just forge 5 a Balance 1H and invest some points in your Dex, that should do the job.
You should forget magic accuracy for now. Investing points in wisdom is your only way to increase it, but it's extremely expensive. Even I am still not at 100% (99.4%), even though I spam Imperil as 1H.

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