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post Feb 4 2019, 13:49
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 09:16) *

In terms of performance

Aha, that surely helps to get an articulate and correct answer ! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 4 2019, 15:54
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Peerless IW is so stupidly hard huh, I just learned it the hard way.
Still die around round 90s even when I lower the difficulty to nightmare, not sure whether my gear is crap or my play is crap, or both. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Feb 4 2019, 16:15
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 09:16) *

In terms of performance


Depends on fighting style and battle mode, maging arena would look something like holy > dark >> elec > wind >> cold > fire
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post Feb 4 2019, 16:48
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 15:16) *

In terms of performance

Are you referring to mages

QUOTE(fuadhika @ Feb 4 2019, 21:54) *

Peerless IW is so stupidly hard huh, I just learned it the hard way.
Still die around round 90s even when I lower the difficulty to nightmare, not sure whether my gear is crap or my play is crap, or both. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

There is free IW10 service in WTS. If you have trouble with it, i suggest you take advantage of the services there. It's too early for you to do difficult IWs on your own since you didn't even max you spirit shields yet...
QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Feb 4 2019, 22:15) *

Depends on fighting style and battle mode, maging arena would look something like holy > dark >> elec > wind >> cold > fire

Almost agree. From my perspective, with limited budget dark is faster than holy. My dark set(before heavy forging)needs 65mins to clear all Arenas, while my new holy set needs 75mins+

In terms of speed, at the end(meaning matching equipemtns, enough profs, forging and DD perks), holy >>dark > wind>=elec >> cold > fire
In terms of survivability, wind>=elec=cold=fire>>dark>holy

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post Feb 4 2019, 17:19
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Feb 4 2019, 16:48) *

There is free IW10 service in WTS. If you have trouble with it, i suggest you take advantage of the services there. It's too early for you to do difficult IWs on your own since you didn't even max you spirit shields yet...

Yeah but the problem is I got this from lottery, so it's soulbounded (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Feb 4 2019, 17:57
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Feb 4 2019, 06:49) *

Aha, that surely helps to get an articulate and correct answer ! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Yep, and I got the answer I wanted >.>

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Is cold/fire viable at end-game? I (don't think?) I've seen people flexing their full fire/ice mage gear around. Plenty of the other 4 though.

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post Feb 4 2019, 17:58
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Feb 4 2019, 10:19) *

Yeah but the problem is I got this from lottery, so it's soulbounded (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Well, the obvious good news is that it's a peerless and already soulbound, so even being unable to IW it at the moment, it might help you level faster to unlock some of the crucial abilities that will help you to be able to complete it. IW is no joke. Popping scrolls can help, but I would focus on leveling a little more to get more abilities and proficiency.
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post Feb 4 2019, 18:21
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Feb 4 2019, 17:58) *

Well, the obvious good news is that it's a peerless and already soulbound, so even being unable to IW it at the moment, it might help you level faster to unlock some of the crucial abilities that will help you to be able to complete it. IW is no joke. Popping scrolls can help, but I would focus on leveling a little more to get more abilities and proficiency.

No joke indeed, was very surprised by how hard it is, my evade was practically non-existent, monster keeps parrying, and once my attack got through they die immediately, so hard to get charges.

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post Feb 4 2019, 18:48
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 17:57) *

Is cold/fire viable at end-game?


It depends on what does viable mean for you because some players spend tens of millions on maging gear and DD perks because 15 min D&D is not good enough while some play half forged 1H and feel content
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post Feb 4 2019, 18:55
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 23:57) *

Is cold/fire viable at end-game? I (don't think?) I've seen people flexing their full fire/ice mage gear around. Plenty of the other 4 though.

define viable.
Cold/fire are just slower compared to wind/elec due to the disadvantage on staff. Arctic and fiery willow do not receive spell damage bonus from prefix, but choosing redwoods would lose all the counter-resist.

The difference in Arenas is very small I'd say. But for IW and GF, the difference becomes noticeably significant. If wind/elec clears a GF @7000turns, then cold/fire needs 7500t or more.

To conclude,
Generally, dark is the best for Arena-only-players. Dark has more potentials than elementals, which most players don't know at all.
Holy only good for rich players.
Elementals is more comprehensive. Much less consumables needed, faster casting speed making better survivability, less difficulty in reaching required profs. In contrast, wind/elec also the most expensive style right now.
Questions regarding imp and non-imp styles is another issue. There is crucial difference between imp and non-imp. Make sure you understand that before you start preparing for your mage.

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post Feb 4 2019, 19:01
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Feb 4 2019, 02:57) *

Wait, why are you using Newbie title instead of Godslayer?


Obviously to get a cookie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
No, really. I'm gold star and missing a cookie. Rumors say that you get it if you change your title .... sounds good, doesn't work.
I got a new tip: wait and hop(e). I think I change to that for a while. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 4 2019, 19:10
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I'm looking into it rn, it will be a long time until I reach a level where mages start to shine, let alone being able to afford such a set.

But yeah, getting spark-bypass (blame me for my silly habit of using keyboard) frustrated me so bad that I added a pop-up specifically to stop me from killing myself >.> 2H is a bit weak with my current weapon.

My next goal is to get a good estoc that I can trust for arena :/ and finding a way to... not die, so ethereal Estoc/LS might be a must for evade.
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post Feb 4 2019, 19:36
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QUOTE(hopkar @ Feb 4 2019, 15:01) *

Obviously to get a cookie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
No, really. I'm gold star and missing a cookie. Rumors say that you get it if you change your title .... sounds good, doesn't work.
I got a new tip: wait and hop(e). I think I change to that for a while. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I had to repeat this procedure several times in a row until the cookie appeared. And I also cleared the browser cache (ctrl + F5).
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post Feb 4 2019, 19:49
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Hi guys, I'm seeking your wisdom: I'm thinking to soulfuse some exquisite items, like my rapier, shield and heavy armor once I'm around level 250.

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Gauntlet
Boots

Also, I know soulfusing superior stuff is not advised at all but I wonder if it apply for some item with nice stats like Power of Slaughter like those:

Gauntlet
Armor

I'm not that much on eh so I don't have a lot of RE to farm a lot of soul fragment.
Thank you in advance guys.

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post Feb 4 2019, 19:53
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QUOTE(sabertooth39 @ Feb 4 2019, 18:49) *

Hi guys, I'm seeking your wisdom: I'm thinking to soulfuse some exquisite items, like my rapier, shield and heavy armor once I'm around level 250.

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Gauntlet
Boots

I know soulfusing superior stuff is not advised at all but I wonder if it apply for some item with nice stats like Power of Slaughter like those:

Gauntlet
Armor

I'm not that much on eh so I don't have a lot of RE to farm a lot of soul fragment.
Thank you in advance guys.


A bit of wisdom: Soulfusing Superior, you shall not. Regret it, you would. Bazaar superiors, you must. For Legendary, you will look. For Magnificent, you may settle. Save the fragments, you must.
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post Feb 4 2019, 20:08
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 4 2019, 20:53) *

A bit of wisdom: Soulfusing Superior, you shall not. Regret it, you would. Bazaar superiors, you must. For Legendary, you will look. For Magnificent, you may settle. Save the fragments, you must.


That's nice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But ... what about exquisites? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I browsed the WTS these past days and I didn't found Magnificient stuff around the level 230 or so. Should I be more patient and wait until I level up more?

Thanks for you fast reply btw.
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post Feb 4 2019, 20:14
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Here's a list of pros and cons:

Pro:
Gear level up with you. Very minor stat per level, but it adds up.
Gains twice PxP at item world.

Cons:
A lot of people do IW10 for you for free at your level, you shouldn't be doing IW at all due to inefficiency and difficulty
You will most likely find better gears as you level up. Or the very least, can buy better gears - which you can resell to at least recover a good fraction of your purchase.
You lose soul fragments, though if you never soulfuse they're worthless anyway.
You lose the ability to sell it for some extra cash once it outlive its usefulness

Quick edit: Been (re-playing?) playing for a little over a week, was at lvl100.

Been strictly using just this: [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/82217062/7a5dd09e53

So far, it does it's job Ok-ish. So if you want to IW10, upgrade and forget, it 'could' do for convenience. So, Exquisite would work, but not reallly recommended.

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post Feb 4 2019, 20:24
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 4 2019, 21:14) *

Here's a list of pros and cons:

Pro:
Gear level up with you. Very minor stat per level, but it adds up.
Gains twice PxP at item world.

Cons:
A lot of people do IW10 for you for free at your level, you shouldn't be doing IW at all due to inefficiency and difficulty
You will most likely find better gears as you level up. Or the very least, can buy better gears - which you can resell to at least recover a good fraction of your purchase.
You lose soul fragments, though if you never soulfuse they're worthless anyway.
You lose the ability to sell it for some extra cash once it outlive its usefulness


Didn't know about the free IW10, that's nice to know, ty.
So what matters here is how long it'll be useful right? And it's quite debatable with Exquisites but with Magnificient it's insured to be useful.

In this case, I should wait for some Magnificient stuff. Maybe I'll just soulfuse my rapier since I'm having a hard time to find better.

Thanks again for your fast reply.

Edit: To reply to your edit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Good to know it still do a ok job. I'll wait a bit trying to find better otherwise I'll do the same like you.

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post Feb 4 2019, 21:06
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Gains twice PxP at item world.

Tbh that is even a contra to me. I mean imo best strategy to IW something is make the first round so that two Potencies get unlocked so that you dont waste an amnesia shards. twice the PxP means in that case you have to play on a lower difficulty as without, means less income. And when you have something to reforge 50 or more times, we allready talking about a few k i personally would like to have. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 4 2019, 21:07
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Exquisite have a soul bound price of 250, Mag/Leg is 500, so you might wanna consider that as well.

Magnificent gears should drop more frequently as you increase difficulty, and occasionally a legendary, but overall WTS and auctions should be a good place for gear scouting. Take a look at the gears there and their level first to get an idea of what gears you'll be seeing
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