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SG runs are easier.
Try cast weaken and silence on SGs. These 2 are super, ultimate useful against SGs if you still spark a lot. I guess their spirit attacks are still destructive to you.

I guess the main problem for me is that it takes too long to kill them off lol. I'm using imperil on them right now but I might as well try weak and silence - I just have to consider which one would cost less mana - weak and silence them vs curing when they hit hard.

I think my block chance parry chance are too low for haste to be bad, so I'm gonna try using them for now, at least for later rounds. I mean I still clear them on IWBTH with not much hassle, but I guess my main objective here is to cut down on potions and try to keep consumption limited to draughts, and ultimately move to PFUDOR.

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 06:02

I thought you could start clearing PFUDOR arena from lv350ish,

I clear PFDWD at 305.
clear, that is, the clear time is another story...

lmao you are god

I mean... if you permastun a single target to cheese until consumables comes off CD to try to push the limit a bit further

Not guaranteed to preserve sanity though.

Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 12:34

If it takes ages for you to kill them but you want to supercharge your leveling so you can equip your stronger items to take care of them in a timely manner, you'd want to skip them.

Right, i forgot how durable they can be for low level player. Sorry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

The main reason why I normally don't play the last three arenas during weekdays.

For tTatT it takes me around 20 to 25 minutes to clear it (pfudor, no OFC yet) which works fine with the RE timer.
However aDwD takes like forever. 1,5h to 2h at the moment. To be fair, I don't pay much attention while playing. I read news or watch documentations or whatever while playing SG arenas. I use Monsterbation so I just move my mouse up and down and check at the border of my vield of vision if the game stopped because I have to cast something - so I probably could do faster..
But because I don't I only play the SG arenas when I have a lot of time and would otherwise fall below 80 Stamina.

Hey 1H ppl, how much mana pots do you use in SG arena? I think maybe I'm using too much so I wanted to check. I'm using like 25, and isn't that too much? Maybe I should be playing at a lower difficulty..

Well, I'm 1h/light armor and I don't actually use them anymore. I used them when I still sparked regularly but now I'm fine with draughts. But I also have IA 1 to 3 (I got 550 hath thanks to a bounty I cleared), which I use for protection, SS and SoL. The upkeep is 1.6MP/round and less then my regeneration while I'm in Spirit Stance. So I only have to cast regen and Heartseeker. Which are quite expensive but also have a long duration if upgraded with ability points.
I could probably drop either SS or SoL, but as I said I don't always really pay much attention while gaming so I'm willing to pay the price ^^
However I would recommend to stick with your playstyle if it works fine with pots and you feel comfortable. In my opinion they as are not really expensive enough to change a running system because of that.

Regards
-hopkar

This post has been edited by hopkar: Feb 3 2019, 12:46

Btw the upkeep does decrease the more support proficiency one has. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Wow only 1.6MP/round with three spells? SoL alone costs me 3.5MP/round, but that maybe because I got rid of the better spark which has mana cost reduction effect.

Ugh I wish we could look at the spells and skills' description in-game out of battle

Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters

I don't think so.
Grinding is the only way if you want more income.
I don't keep accurate records but for arenas,
~200k credits+~50 SG trophies+3~10 PA+100~150 trash gears+1 noodly(RoB) per day.
Approximately 400~700k .

This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 3 2019, 13:09

Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters

over time, I have collected a lot of training and perks. And with my expensive gear I can play much more in far less time. Those two combined make that I can afford to spend 'a bit more' on a good LDWD. But I do have other sources of income that really take care of my income: in the past: bounties and selling stars, now H@H. So don't be fooled by us high level dudes, most of us have other income.

Wow only 1.6MP/round with three spells? SoL alone costs me 3.5MP/round, but that maybe because I got rid of the better spark which has mana cost reduction effect.

Ugh I wish we could look at the spells and skills' description in-game out of battle

Or you have a high interference? Mine is 54.7 which means I have a "127.3% mana cost modifier". Are you light or haevy armor?

This post has been edited by hopkar: Feb 3 2019, 13:11

Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters

I'll say, about 200K from direct Credits Drop and selling useless Equipments to Bazzar by playing PFUDOR Arenas from Fresh Meat to A Dance with Dragons. With those Incomes I bought 10 Golden Stars myself.

I don't keep accurate records but for arenas,

Well i did. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
For clearing all arenas on PFUDOR they give you on average 190.502 credits each day. And this does not include bazzared equipment, RE or RoB.

Or you have a high interference? Mine is 54.7 which means I have a "127.3% mana cost modifier". Are you light or haevy armor?

I guess that could be one thing cuz my interference is 130 lol with force shield and heavy armor. If I had IA3 and better spark mastered with your interference, mine comes out to be roughly 2.1MP/round, so I guess it certainly is possible with few more points in supportive proficiency and all

I don't think so.
Grinding is the only way if you want more income.
I don't keep accurate records but for arenas,
~200k credits+~50 SG trophies+3~10 PA+100~150 trash gears+1 noodly(RoB) per day.
Approximately 400~700k .

I see. It's kinda amazing to see you get up to 50 SG trophies, I bet half of them are from DwD since I think I barely get 20~25 in total from the first two. (I don't have DwD unlocked yet)

over time, I have collected a lot of training and perks. And with my expensive gear I can play much more in far less time. Those two combined make that I can afford to spend 'a bit more' on a good LDWD. But I do have other sources of income that really take care of my income: in the past: bounties and selling stars, now H@H. So don't be fooled by us high level dudes, most of us have other income.

Thank you for the detailed reply. Do you play mage? I would like to get better gears as 1H but apparently there is a limit to how fast you can clear arenas with 1H. Right now I'm busy training loot related perks. (Arch and Quatermasters) I should start levelling up scavenger and luck of draw too, but I've heard they are a bit behind in terms of priority, esp LoD.

Apart from that, could I get a sense of how much GP you get from H@H? I don't know if my ISP would allow it (Spectrum), but that seems quite attractive if I can manage it.

I'll say, about 200K from direct Credits Drop and selling useless Equipments to Bazzar by playing PFUDOR Arenas from Fresh Meat to A Dance with Dragons. With those Incomes I bought 10 Golden Stars myself.

Respect to you, sir. I want to grab myself a gold star too, but it seems so distant that it appears almost unreal, that I'd gather up 45m to buy it lol. At this point, clearly second page of arena @ IWBTH is already enough chore for me, but well I hope to get there soon lol.

Well i did. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
For clearing all arenas on PFUDOR they give you on average 190.502 credits each day. And this does not include bazzared equipment, RE or RoB.

Niceee. That means at least around 300k upward just from selling the trophies.

Thank you for all the inputs, masters. (_ _)

around 350k, 200k credits drop+100k from trophies+50k equipment to bazaar. Also your PAs.
So 400k daily is possible if you finish all Arenas that give you 1000 clear bonus.
A huge proportion of your income may come from equipment drops. If you are lucky enough, you might just drop a GS-tie equipment. Then get tens of millions at once, which..never happened to me...

Wow only 1.6MP/round with three spells? SoL alone costs me 3.5MP/round, but that maybe because I got rid of the better spark which has mana cost reduction effect.

Ugh I wish we could look at the spells and skills' description in-game out of battle

Since you just recently surpassed my level, I think a comparison with me is more interesting them with L400+ guys.

Mind you, I have IA III (as per my signature) and all significant "Better AAA" abilities slotted and trained at the maximum level possible for my L.254.

That said, in my 1H+Heavy build, with Protection & SS only slotted upkeep is 1.19 MP/round; that is, I only use IA1 & 2 slots and leave IA3 empty (but it still contributes to reduce the total upkeep).

If I need to slot one more spell, I either choose Haste (upkeep goes up to 1.89MP) or Sol (goes up to 1.93).

So your 3.5 sound suspicious to me, something is not working right somewhere. As Uncle Stu said, proficiency also plays a role, check it.
My EFFECTIVE Supportive proficiency in 1H/Heavy is 307 == My level + 54 (roughly 20%) which is rather medium, not really high but not excessively low.

Hope this helps. For other builds, like DW and Niten with Leather, upkeep goes from similar to a bit less (but slotted spells are not all the same).

But for 1H/H, just mana draughts are usually enough (the occasional potion is more for emergencies, but in any case you shouldn't consume more than you get dropped on average. That is, you should not have to buy them).

Hope this helps you to better optimize your build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I guess that could be one thing cuz my interference is 130 lol with force shield and heavy armor. If I had IA3 and better spark mastered with your interference, mine comes out to be roughly 2.1MP/round, so I guess it certainly is possible with few more points in supportive proficiency and all

Btw, my Interf & Burden are both around 100, but my Heavy Armour is 4 plain Legendary + 1 Magnificent Power and that helps. If you need, don't hesitate to use Feathers to reduce it.

Ah, I forgot ... all this with a 147.9% mana cost modifier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Don't worry too much about that, for 1H is always high, don't try to lower it, it's useless and impossible. Better put your efforts in those other things.

This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Feb 3 2019, 14:11

vincento you did forget the monsterlab, which just makes it even easier to reach 400k on a daily basic. Btw, i also never got a drop that gave me thens of millions at once, so you are not alone. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

vincento you did forget the monsterlab, which just makes it even easier to reach 400k on a daily basic. Btw, i also never got a drop that gave me thens of millions at once, so you are not alone. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

yea. forgot that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
but for who don't have a number of monsters yet, their income from monsterlab is quite unstable. And mostly comes from rare materials and some valuable bindings, whichever are not common.
Also for a mage like me, most bindings are preserved for future use. So are the phazons. The only valuable binding I sell is binding of slaughters.(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

This post has been edited by -vincento-: Feb 3 2019, 14:24