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Feb 3 2019, 05:03
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ihatenamingthings
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Mb, meant to type IWTBH, just had my coffee :/
SG for 2h is easy. 2H main issue is slow OC regen, our OC ability is ridiculously good.
I can penetrate armor, follow up by a stun, that kills/almost kill all targets hit (5 targets) for a total of 100 OC. SG happens to be so tanky, yet weak, that I can recharge both my CD and OC bar, which normally isn't possible otherwise.
Goddess and the tree is broken easy too, if I get some OC buildup. With my current AS, it's (almost) a permanent stun as long as I can sustain it. Hilariously, if monsters get ripped tanky (so they stay stunned and don't die so I can regain my OC), it would be helluva easier.
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Feb 3 2019, 05:32
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xesxesgnik
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I'd say for normal arenas they normally take about 10~15 minutes, and SG arenas take 20-25 minutes. I guess at this point I should still use haste because my block and parry are not high enough so taking hits do more harm than good lol
This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 05:32
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Feb 3 2019, 05:35
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 3 2019, 10:49)  Wait you clear normal arena on IWBTH but schoolgirls at PFUDOR? Because I find SG to be more difficult. Huh interesting.
SG runs are easier. Try cast weaken and silence on SGs. These 2 are super, ultimate useful against SGs if you still spark a lot. I guess their spirit attacks are still destructive to you. QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Feb 3 2019, 11:03)  Mb, meant to type IWTBH, just had my coffee :/
SG for 2h is easy. 2H main issue is slow OC regen, our OC ability is ridiculously good.
Just what I saw from lololo's records. 2H light is slower than any other styles. 2h heavy is another story as I don't know yet.
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Feb 3 2019, 05:47
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ihatenamingthings
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2H gears are cheaper though.
I run both 1H (PFURE - impossible with 2H) and arenas
Planning to build enough creds for a mage set, which I figured gonna cost an arm and a leg. Unless ofc, that I get realllllllllly lucky with drops.
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Feb 3 2019, 06:01
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Feb 2 2019, 22:35)  SG runs are easier. Try cast weaken and silence on SGs. These 2 are super, ultimate useful against SGs if you still spark a lot. I guess their spirit attacks are still destructive to you.
I guess the main problem for me is that it takes too long to kill them off lol. I'm using imperil on them right now but I might as well try weak and silence - I just have to consider which one would cost less mana - weak and silence them vs curing when they hit hard. I think my block chance parry chance are too low for haste to be bad, so I'm gonna try using them for now, at least for later rounds. I mean I still clear them on IWBTH with not much hassle, but I guess my main objective here is to cut down on potions and try to keep consumption limited to draughts, and ultimately move to PFUDOR. This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 06:02
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Feb 3 2019, 09:03
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 3 2019, 06:01)  I thought you could start clearing PFUDOR arena from lv350ish, I clear PFDWD at 305. clear, that is, the clear time is another story...
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Feb 3 2019, 09:05
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xesxesgnik
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lmao you are god
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Feb 3 2019, 09:33
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ihatenamingthings
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I mean... if you permastun a single target to cheese until consumables comes off CD to try to push the limit a bit further
Not guaranteed to preserve sanity though.
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Feb 3 2019, 11:31
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xesxesgnik
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Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters
This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 12:34
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Feb 3 2019, 11:56
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Feb 3 2019, 03:04)  If it takes ages for you to kill them but you want to supercharge your leveling so you can equip your stronger items to take care of them in a timely manner, you'd want to skip them.
Right, i forgot how durable they can be for low level player. Sorry. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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Feb 3 2019, 12:44
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hopkar
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The main reason why I normally don't play the last three arenas during weekdays. For tTatT it takes me around 20 to 25 minutes to clear it (pfudor, no OFC yet) which works fine with the RE timer. However aDwD takes like forever. 1,5h to 2h at the moment. To be fair, I don't pay much attention while playing. I read news or watch documentations or whatever while playing SG arenas. I use Monsterbation so I just move my mouse up and down and check at the border of my vield of vision if the game stopped because I have to cast something - so I probably could do faster.. But because I don't I only play the SG arenas when I have a lot of time and would otherwise fall below 80 Stamina. QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 3 2019, 01:20)  Hey 1H ppl, how much mana pots do you use in SG arena? I think maybe I'm using too much so I wanted to check. I'm using like 25, and isn't that too much? Maybe I should be playing at a lower difficulty..
Well, I'm 1h/light armor and I don't actually use them anymore. I used them when I still sparked regularly but now I'm fine with draughts. But I also have IA 1 to 3 (I got 550 hath thanks to a bounty I cleared), which I use for protection, SS and SoL. The upkeep is 1.6MP/round and less then my regeneration while I'm in Spirit Stance. So I only have to cast regen and Heartseeker. Which are quite expensive but also have a long duration if upgraded with ability points. I could probably drop either SS or SoL, but as I said I don't always really pay much attention while gaming so I'm willing to pay the price ^^ However I would recommend to stick with your playstyle if it works fine with pots and you feel comfortable. In my opinion they as are not really expensive enough to change a running system because of that. Regards -hopkar This post has been edited by hopkar: Feb 3 2019, 12:46
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Feb 3 2019, 13:00
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xesxesgnik
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Wow only 1.6MP/round with three spells? SoL alone costs me 3.5MP/round, but that maybe because I got rid of the better spark which has mana cost reduction effect.
Ugh I wish we could look at the spells and skills' description in-game out of battle
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Feb 3 2019, 13:00
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qr12345
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 3 2019, 09:31)  Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters
I don't think so. Grinding is the only way if you want more income. I don't keep accurate records but for arenas, ~200k credits+~50 SG trophies+3~10 PA+100~150 trash gears+1 noodly(RoB) per day. Approximately 400~700k . This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 3 2019, 13:09
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Feb 3 2019, 13:10
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Noni
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 3 2019, 10:31)  Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters
over time, I have collected a lot of training and perks. And with my expensive gear I can play much more in far less time. Those two combined make that I can afford to spend 'a bit more' on a good LDWD. But I do have other sources of income that really take care of my income: in the past: bounties and selling stars, now H@H. So don't be fooled by us high level dudes, most of us have other income.
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Feb 3 2019, 13:11
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hopkar
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 3 2019, 14:00)  Wow only 1.6MP/round with three spells? SoL alone costs me 3.5MP/round, but that maybe because I got rid of the better spark which has mana cost reduction effect.
Ugh I wish we could look at the spells and skills' description in-game out of battle
Or you have a high interference? Mine is 54.7 which means I have a "127.3% mana cost modifier". Are you light or haevy armor? This post has been edited by hopkar: Feb 3 2019, 13:11
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Feb 3 2019, 13:17
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chjj30
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 3 2019, 17:31)  Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters
I'll say, about 200K from direct Credits Drop and selling useless Equipments to Bazzar by playing PFUDOR Arenas from Fresh Meat to A Dance with Dragons. With those Incomes I bought 10 Golden Stars myself.
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Feb 3 2019, 13:26
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 3 2019, 12:00)  I don't keep accurate records but for arenas,
Well i did. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) For clearing all arenas on PFUDOR they give you on average 190.502 credits each day. And this does not include bazzared equipment, RE or RoB.
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Feb 3 2019, 13:31
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(hopkar @ Feb 3 2019, 06:11)  Or you have a high interference? Mine is 54.7 which means I have a "127.3% mana cost modifier". Are you light or haevy armor?
I guess that could be one thing cuz my interference is 130 lol with force shield and heavy armor. If I had IA3 and better spark mastered with your interference, mine comes out to be roughly 2.1MP/round, so I guess it certainly is possible with few more points in supportive proficiency and all
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Feb 3 2019, 13:44
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 3 2019, 06:00)  I don't think so. Grinding is the only way if you want more income. I don't keep accurate records but for arenas, ~200k credits+~50 SG trophies+3~10 PA+100~150 trash gears+1 noodly(RoB) per day. Approximately 400~700k .
I see. It's kinda amazing to see you get up to 50 SG trophies, I bet half of them are from DwD since I think I barely get 20~25 in total from the first two. (I don't have DwD unlocked yet) QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 3 2019, 06:10)  over time, I have collected a lot of training and perks. And with my expensive gear I can play much more in far less time. Those two combined make that I can afford to spend 'a bit more' on a good LDWD. But I do have other sources of income that really take care of my income: in the past: bounties and selling stars, now H@H. So don't be fooled by us high level dudes, most of us have other income.
Thank you for the detailed reply. Do you play mage? I would like to get better gears as 1H but apparently there is a limit to how fast you can clear arenas with 1H. Right now I'm busy training loot related perks. (Arch and Quatermasters) I should start levelling up scavenger and luck of draw too, but I've heard they are a bit behind in terms of priority, esp LoD. Apart from that, could I get a sense of how much GP you get from H@H? I don't know if my ISP would allow it (Spectrum), but that seems quite attractive if I can manage it. QUOTE(chjj30 @ Feb 3 2019, 06:17)  I'll say, about 200K from direct Credits Drop and selling useless Equipments to Bazzar by playing PFUDOR Arenas from Fresh Meat to A Dance with Dragons. With those Incomes I bought 10 Golden Stars myself.
Respect to you, sir. I want to grab myself a gold star too, but it seems so distant that it appears almost unreal, that I'd gather up 45m to buy it lol. At this point, clearly second page of arena @ IWBTH is already enough chore for me, but well I hope to get there soon lol. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 3 2019, 06:26)  Well i did. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) For clearing all arenas on PFUDOR they give you on average 190.502 credits each day. And this does not include bazzared equipment, RE or RoB. Niceee. That means at least around 300k upward just from selling the trophies. Thank you for all the inputs, masters. (_ _)
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