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That could work, but I find 12/12 to be more appealing due to extra income you can get. One braindead analysis would be 12/12 = 900 rounds vs. everything above 80 = 600 rounds. It's not gonna be 50% more income of course, but I expect at least 20% income increase and exp decrease is only about 5%-10%.
Also for SG, except for Eternal Darkness, both are extremely good because they are great both exp wise and incomewise, especial DwD tops every arena in every metric, so I guess only reason for not playing them is they take too long. As for Eternal Darkness, the first 50 rounds with only two monsters make it trashy - without the EXP mod it's essentially fourth arena exp-wise, but I guess I still grind it for that trophies lol.

I guess the merits of EXP/round exist only within the context of distributing your stamina above and below 80, cuz it helps you calculate which arenas to play above 80 for any kind of combination.

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 04:21

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You can't possibly upset me, don't worry.

Know what? You're right, I'll let you experiment on all this, I should have encouraged you to do so right from the beginning. Just do it seriously and keep me updated on your results, I'm waiting for your results and conclusion eagerly. I promize that I'll send you (and fudo) a few energy drinks when you do so. Only then you'll know what being mean is, though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I don't need your encouragement, no need for you to tell me how to experiment or how to play this game, and I have no obligation to update you on the results of experiment I'm not going to continue, because it's already done on my end. So don't wait for my results and conclusions because you won't get them. Don't send me any energy drink and no thanks, not interested in knowing what being mean is.

Seriously tho, you are not any authoritative figure and nobody is, so take your condescending manner elsewhere.

2H here, I do at most Nintendo when I feel like wasting time. IWBTH* schoolgrills bc it's easy (might gonna try PFU soon).

Alot depends on RNG, about 2-5, 0 if I'm lucky with gems and riddlemasters.

Draughts on the other hand... let's just say I don't bother counting anymore.

Speaking of which, how much time does it take for you 1-H to clear arena?

This post has been edited by ihatenamingthings: Feb 3 2019, 04:59

Wait you clear normal arena on IWBTH but schoolgirls at PFUDOR? Because I find SG to be more difficult. Huh interesting.

I guess I don't have parry and block chance high enough yet, and my mitigations suck, so either I should lower the difficulty or just use haste again lol

Mb, meant to type IWTBH, just had my coffee :/

SG for 2h is easy. 2H main issue is slow OC regen, our OC ability is ridiculously good.

I can penetrate armor, follow up by a stun, that kills/almost kill all targets hit (5 targets) for a total of 100 OC. SG happens to be so tanky, yet weak, that I can recharge both my CD and OC bar, which normally isn't possible otherwise.

Goddess and the tree is broken easy too, if I get some OC buildup. With my current AS, it's (almost) a permanent stun as long as I can sustain it. Hilariously, if monsters get ripped tanky (so they stay stunned and don't die so I can regain my OC), it would be helluva easier.

I'd say for normal arenas they normally take about 10~15 minutes, and SG arenas take 20-25 minutes. I guess at this point I should still use haste because my block and parry are not high enough so taking hits do more harm than good lol

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 05:32

Wait you clear normal arena on IWBTH but schoolgirls at PFUDOR? Because I find SG to be more difficult. Huh interesting.

SG runs are easier.
Try cast weaken and silence on SGs. These 2 are super, ultimate useful against SGs if you still spark a lot. I guess their spirit attacks are still destructive to you.

Mb, meant to type IWTBH, just had my coffee :/

SG for 2h is easy. 2H main issue is slow OC regen, our OC ability is ridiculously good.

Just what I saw from lololo's records. 2H light is slower than any other styles. 2h heavy is another story as I don't know yet.

2H gears are cheaper though.

I run both 1H (PFURE - impossible with 2H) and arenas

Planning to build enough creds for a mage set, which I figured gonna cost an arm and a leg. Unless ofc, that I get realllllllllly lucky with drops.

SG runs are easier.
Try cast weaken and silence on SGs. These 2 are super, ultimate useful against SGs if you still spark a lot. I guess their spirit attacks are still destructive to you.

I guess the main problem for me is that it takes too long to kill them off lol. I'm using imperil on them right now but I might as well try weak and silence - I just have to consider which one would cost less mana - weak and silence them vs curing when they hit hard.

I think my block chance parry chance are too low for haste to be bad, so I'm gonna try using them for now, at least for later rounds. I mean I still clear them on IWBTH with not much hassle, but I guess my main objective here is to cut down on potions and try to keep consumption limited to draughts, and ultimately move to PFUDOR.

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 06:02

I thought you could start clearing PFUDOR arena from lv350ish,

I clear PFDWD at 305.
clear, that is, the clear time is another story...

lmao you are god

I mean... if you permastun a single target to cheese until consumables comes off CD to try to push the limit a bit further

Not guaranteed to preserve sanity though.

Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 12:34

If it takes ages for you to kill them but you want to supercharge your leveling so you can equip your stronger items to take care of them in a timely manner, you'd want to skip them.

Right, i forgot how durable they can be for low level player. Sorry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

The main reason why I normally don't play the last three arenas during weekdays.

For tTatT it takes me around 20 to 25 minutes to clear it (pfudor, no OFC yet) which works fine with the RE timer.
However aDwD takes like forever. 1,5h to 2h at the moment. To be fair, I don't pay much attention while playing. I read news or watch documentations or whatever while playing SG arenas. I use Monsterbation so I just move my mouse up and down and check at the border of my vield of vision if the game stopped because I have to cast something - so I probably could do faster..
But because I don't I only play the SG arenas when I have a lot of time and would otherwise fall below 80 Stamina.

Hey 1H ppl, how much mana pots do you use in SG arena? I think maybe I'm using too much so I wanted to check. I'm using like 25, and isn't that too much? Maybe I should be playing at a lower difficulty..

Well, I'm 1h/light armor and I don't actually use them anymore. I used them when I still sparked regularly but now I'm fine with draughts. But I also have IA 1 to 3 (I got 550 hath thanks to a bounty I cleared), which I use for protection, SS and SoL. The upkeep is 1.6MP/round and less then my regeneration while I'm in Spirit Stance. So I only have to cast regen and Heartseeker. Which are quite expensive but also have a long duration if upgraded with ability points.
I could probably drop either SS or SoL, but as I said I don't always really pay much attention while gaming so I'm willing to pay the price ^^
However I would recommend to stick with your playstyle if it works fine with pots and you feel comfortable. In my opinion they as are not really expensive enough to change a running system because of that.

Regards
-hopkar

This post has been edited by hopkar: Feb 3 2019, 12:46

Btw the upkeep does decrease the more support proficiency one has. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Wow only 1.6MP/round with three spells? SoL alone costs me 3.5MP/round, but that maybe because I got rid of the better spark which has mana cost reduction effect.

Ugh I wish we could look at the spells and skills' description in-game out of battle

Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters

I don't think so.
Grinding is the only way if you want more income.
I don't keep accurate records but for arenas,
~200k credits+~50 SG trophies+3~10 PA+100~150 trash gears+1 noodly(RoB) per day.
Approximately 400~700k .

This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 3 2019, 13:09

Does regular daily income increase significantly as you level up? By regular, I mean excluding all special loots. How much do you usually earn? @lv500 masters

over time, I have collected a lot of training and perks. And with my expensive gear I can play much more in far less time. Those two combined make that I can afford to spend 'a bit more' on a good LDWD. But I do have other sources of income that really take care of my income: in the past: bounties and selling stars, now H@H. So don't be fooled by us high level dudes, most of us have other income.