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Feb 2 2019, 12:50
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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I never understood why players make so many calculations and spend so much time trying to find out what arena nets the most. Doing that is extremely inefficient. I mean, by the time you finished calculating, you'd have been better off clearing all the arenas for plenty of days, period. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) If one is really short on time, just clear the 2nd page of arenas without the SG ones and call it a day. And if you don't even have time for that, then just don't play. At least have a bit of consistency between your statements and your actions: if you don't have time to play, then why do you waste it an even worse way by doing calculations and futile optimization? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That was my humble two cents on that subject. And no I've ever been in such considerations myself, precisely for the reasons I've stated.
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Feb 2 2019, 13:10
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14

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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 2 2019, 04:58)  that's about right, though it's lower than 95.  another comparison 7 enemies RE gives 7,845,478 EXP for me. Huh, interesting to see the discrepancy, but yours is probably more accurate because I was levelling up as I gathered the data lol, well at least the order seems to be right so there is that.
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Feb 2 2019, 15:55
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,934
Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 2 2019, 12:50)  I never understood why players make so many calculations and spend so much time trying to find out what arena nets the most. Doing that is extremely inefficient. I mean, by the time you finished calculating, you'd have been better off clearing all the arenas for plenty of days, period. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) If one is really short on time, just clear the 2nd page of arenas without the SG ones and call it a day. And if you don't even have time for that, then just don't play. At least have a bit of consistency between your statements and your actions: if you don't have time to play, then why do you waste it an even worse way by doing calculations and futile optimization? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That was my humble two cents on that subject. And no I've ever been in such considerations myself, precisely for the reasons I've stated. (IMG:[ upload.wikimedia.org] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg)
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Feb 2 2019, 16:08
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Fudo Masamune
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,636
Joined: 2-February 10

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 2 2019, 17:50)  I never understood why players make so many calculations and spend so much time trying to find out what arena nets the most. Doing that is extremely inefficient. I mean, by the time you finished calculating, you'd have been better off clearing all the arenas for plenty of days, period. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) If one is really short on time, just clear the 2nd page of arenas without the SG ones and call it a day. And if you don't even have time for that, then just don't play. At least have a bit of consistency between your statements and your actions: if you don't have time to play, then why do you waste it an even worse way by doing calculations and futile optimization? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That was my humble two cents on that subject. And no I've ever been in such considerations myself, precisely for the reasons I've stated. what do you mean it's "extremely inefficient"? it takes less than a day, and by the time he have the correct value, he could use it forever. the "calculation time" is technically instant as it's just put stuff on excel and write some calculation formula. the amount of time used to make the color coded visual is double of that. and it seems you mistakenly understand what saioux obejctive is, from my view he wants to know the most efficient way to spend his rested bonus stamina, not his time - for whatever reason he have. and I did the same thing as him back there, that's why I take interest in his effort so I spare few seconds from every arena clear to record the exp and couple of minutes to make comparison. to actually try to help him. what I really don't understand is people who refuse to spend a little time to understand other's perspective yet have time to diss their effort. ¯\(ツ)/¯ This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Feb 2 2019, 16:10
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Feb 2 2019, 17:29
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Resha
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Anyone who have Live Percentile can help me double-check this please? Peerless Ethereal Club of Slaughter ADB: 99% unforged; 67.66 unforged base damage Peerless Fiery Club of Slaughter ADB: 100% unforged; 67.72 unforged base damage Peerless should be 100% on all stats right? So why is it that my ethereal is 99% adb while the fire one is 100% adb?
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Feb 2 2019, 17:35
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zlaricob
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Hello everyone,
I wonder what to do with my credits. I play 1H heavy armor. I completed my gear as far as I can tell (legendary power xxx of slaugther) and don't plan to go savage/slaugther or peerless soon. Do you think I should save my money until I'm able to buy a gold star or should I invest in the Dæmon Duality perk. So far, I have the following perks: - Innate Arcana III - Thinking Cap - Crystarium I - Postage Paid Thanks a lot for your help.
Z.
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Feb 2 2019, 17:37
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Fudo Masamune
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,636
Joined: 2-February 10

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QUOTE(Resha @ Feb 2 2019, 22:29)  Anyone who have Live Percentile can help me double-check this please? Peerless Ethereal Club of Slaughter ADB: 99% unforged; 67.66 unforged base damage Peerless Fiery Club of Slaughter ADB: 100% unforged; 67.72 unforged base damage Peerless should be 100% on all stats right? So why is it that my ethereal is 99% adb while the fire one is 100% adb? are you sure that's not because of calculation error? the first one is forged, the second is not.
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Feb 2 2019, 17:45
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Iirc this has something to do with Butcher. A rounding error or so. It should be 100%.
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Feb 2 2019, 17:53
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Resha
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 2 2019, 17:37)  are you sure that's not because of calculation error? the first one is forged, the second is not.
Well I do vaguely remember that they have the same adb before I forged/IW the ethereal one but i can't really check it again without salvaging/reforging it now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) . It gave me a panic but if it's just calculation error due to Live percentile and not the actual equipment itself then it's not really a problem. Thanks This post has been edited by Resha: Feb 2 2019, 17:56
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Feb 2 2019, 18:33
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,934
Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(zlaricob @ Feb 2 2019, 17:35)  Hello everyone,
I wonder what to do with my credits. I play 1H heavy armor. I completed my gear as far as I can tell (legendary power xxx of slaugther) and don't plan to go savage/slaugther or peerless soon. Do you think I should save my money until I'm able to buy a gold star or should I invest in the Dæmon Duality perk. So far, I have the following perks: - Innate Arcana III - Thinking Cap - Crystarium I - Postage Paid
GS should be priority (with all cookies it's 160% exp boost + 6 hath and 10k gp/credits daily for you) but Crystarium I is cheap enough even if you don't play grindfest and post paid is very good if you use MM
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Feb 2 2019, 18:39
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Feb 2 2019, 17:33)  but Crystarium I is cheap enough even if you don't play grindfest and post paid is very good if you use MM
Ehm, the way i understand his post, he allready has Crystarium I and Postage Paid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Feb 2 2019, 19:21
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zlaricob
Group: Members
Posts: 284
Joined: 30-March 16

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 2 2019, 19:39)  Ehm, the way i understand his post, he allready has Crystarium I and Postage Paid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Yes, I already have Crystarium I. I'm balancing between saving for a GS and investing in Dæmon Duality perk. Z.
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Feb 2 2019, 19:25
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,934
Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 2 2019, 18:39)  Ehm, the way i understand his post, he allready has Crystarium I and Postage Paid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) You're right, I'm distracted too often (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) QUOTE(zlaricob @ Feb 2 2019, 17:35)  So far, I have the following perks
VV and Tokenizer I are nice too QUOTE(zlaricob @ Feb 2 2019, 19:21)  I'm balancing between saving for a GS and investing in Dæmon Duality perk.
Go for DD if you feel like you need to speed up fights a little bit, but in general GS is the way too go This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Feb 2 2019, 19:27
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Feb 2 2019, 20:47
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zlaricob
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Joined: 30-March 16

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Ok, I'll save for the GS then. Thanks a lot for the answers.
Z.
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Feb 2 2019, 21:00
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,282
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(zlaricob @ Feb 2 2019, 18:21)  Yes, I already have Crystarium I. I'm balancing between saving for a GS and investing in Dæmon Duality perk.
Z.
Gold Star, always. Then after that Demon duality is very nice as well.
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Feb 2 2019, 22:33
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14

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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 2 2019, 09:08)  wants to know the most efficient way to spend his rested bonus stamina, not his time - for whatever reason he have.
Clearing everything but below 80 vs Clearing some is basically a tradeoff between income vs exp/time, and I just thought to myself second page should do it, and 12 points above 80 is the most efficient because that allows me clear all my RE above 80. so I was just curious to see how I should use those 300 rounds worth of stamina (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Once again, thank you for the cool colored chart!
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Feb 3 2019, 00:20
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14

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Hey 1H ppl, how much mana pots do you use in SG arena? I think maybe I'm using too much so I wanted to check. I'm using like 25, and isn't that too much? Maybe I should be playing at a lower difficulty..
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Feb 3 2019, 00:23
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 2 2019, 23:20)  Hey 1H ppl, how much mana pots do you use in SG arena?
Mana Potion? None at all. Actually it has been i while since i used the last mana potion at all. Cant even remember when that was. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 3 2019, 00:23
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Feb 3 2019, 00:28
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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Lol, that's insane. So I guess you don't need any healing due to high block parry chance? Cuz I'm at the brink of death all the time when one of them spirit attack and shit. So you are okay just with draught i guess? You must be using some mana from all the buffs tho Also, can you maintain perma SS while using OFC? Every time I use OFC I have to build up OC w/o SS to be able to use it on next cooldown
This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 3 2019, 00:31
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Feb 3 2019, 00:33
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 2 2019, 23:28)  Lol, that's insane.
Well, it is normal to me. QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 2 2019, 23:28)  So I guess you don't need any healing due to high block parry chance?
My high PM and MM does also help, when it comes to arenas i am completly invulnerable for a while now. Actually except the last few hundert rounds in PFUDORFest nothing could kill me. QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 2 2019, 23:28)  Cuz I'm at the brink of death all the time when one of them spirit attack and shit. So you are okay just with draught i guess?
Well, that will be better trust me. And yes, once in a while a mana draught is more than enough for me. Well and sometimes a spirit draught, but those are also allready quite rare. Now that i think about it, the SG arenas are the only arenas i even usually need a spirit draught. QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 2 2019, 23:28)  You must be using some mana from all the buffs tho All the buffs? I only use Spirit Shield and Protection as autocast and Regen and Heart Seeker as self cast. Nothing else. All the time. QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 2 2019, 23:28)  Also, can you maintain perma SS while using OFC?
Theoretical i could stay 100% of the time in SS even with OFC usage. But it is just not worth the effort, when there are five monster alive and the OFC is ready and i am not in an SG Arena, it fires and just a few turns later the SS is on again, if it even gets off. QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 2 2019, 23:28)  Every time I use OFC I have to build up OC w/o SS to be able to use it on next cooldown
That is normal, you would need Full Overcharge so that the OFC doesnt use it all. Also is it not helpfull when the PFC doesnt kill all monster. Because with just a few monster left, it is quite hard to mantain the SS. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 3 2019, 00:37
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