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Any advice on monster lab? I've read that after PL500 your monster has a chance to bring HG material, but by no means I can manage that as of now, so I'm just spending all my chaos tokens onto additional slots and level up monsters to 25.

So far I have 9 lv25 monsters. Is it okay if I continue with my strat for a while?

Yeah, after 500 they start, with a really, really low chance to bring HGMats. I mean even with a whole army of them, you dont get that much HG out of them. So, yeah, just create more monster bring them to 25 and repeat. But what you could do is use some crystals to increase their moral to save some happy pills. Other than that, i guess you doing fine.

Yea but if I level up my monsters I don't have enough crystals to create new monsters even if I were to open new slots, so I have to make a choice between small number of high PL vs many low PL anyways

Spend on a few package of crystal. That should sustain you for a veeeeeery long time. Well worth it imo

So I've been testing to see which arena provides most EXP/round, for reference when I can use only limited stamina above 80, and here's the result @ lv.266:

To Kill a God (80 rounds): 316271/round
The Trio and the Tree (100 rounds): 271614/round
Eve of Death (90 rounds): 257778/round
End of Days (First SG): 255770/round
Dreamfall (60 rounds): 220332/round
New Wings(75 rounds): 219216/round
Sealed Power(70 rounds): 215355/round
Eternal Darkness(2nd SG): 205592/round
Exile (65 rounds): 203742/round
Longest Journey (55 rounds): 167341/round

Conditions: IWBTH, no stamina bonus

I didn't unlock DwD yet so it's not included. One interesting I noticed was the result I obtained was extremely close to the theoretical values I calculated based on exp/monster from RE, under assumption SG/Boss/Ultimate gives about same EXP as normal monsters. Based on the theoretical value, DwD should give most EXP per round, but To Kill a God comes in a very close second. (95 percentile)

One other thing would be boss monsters could give more EXP, but not by much.

Any advice on monster lab? I've read that after PL500 your monster has a chance to bring HG material, but by no means I can manage that as of now, so I'm just spending all my chaos tokens onto additional slots and level up monsters to 25.

So far I have 9 lv25 monsters. Is it okay if I continue with my strat for a while?

Buy yourself a few crystal packs. They're cheap nowadays. And at that power level, it'll be way way less expensive than restoring their morale with happy pills. Don't focus on upgrading them ASAP to start dropping HG, it's not worth it and this is where you actually waste resources. They will eventually reach a decent PL by just normal morale restoration with crystal packs, and by that time you will need to prepare yourself for their increasing amount of care they need.

So I've been testing to see which arena provides most EXP/round, for reference when I can use only limited stamina above 80, and here's the result @ lv.266:

Based on the theoretical value, DwD should give most EXP per round, but To Kill a God comes in a very close second. (95 percentile)

that's about right, though it's lower than 95.


another comparison 7 enemies RE gives 7,845,478 EXP for me.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Feb 2 2019, 12:02

I never understood why players make so many calculations and spend so much time trying to find out what arena nets the most. Doing that is extremely inefficient. I mean, by the time you finished calculating, you'd have been better off clearing all the arenas for plenty of days, period. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

If one is really short on time, just clear the 2nd page of arenas without the SG ones and call it a day. And if you don't even have time for that, then just don't play. At least have a bit of consistency between your statements and your actions: if you don't have time to play, then why do you waste it an even worse way by doing calculations and futile optimization? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That was my humble two cents on that subject. And no I've ever been in such considerations myself, precisely for the reasons I've stated.

that's about right, though it's lower than 95.


another comparison 7 enemies RE gives 7,845,478 EXP for me.

Huh, interesting to see the discrepancy, but yours is probably more accurate because I was levelling up as I gathered the data lol, well at least the order seems to be right so there is that.

I never understood why players make so many calculations and spend so much time trying to find out what arena nets the most. Doing that is extremely inefficient. I mean, by the time you finished calculating, you'd have been better off clearing all the arenas for plenty of days, period. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

If one is really short on time, just clear the 2nd page of arenas without the SG ones and call it a day. And if you don't even have time for that, then just don't play. At least have a bit of consistency between your statements and your actions: if you don't have time to play, then why do you waste it an even worse way by doing calculations and futile optimization? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That was my humble two cents on that subject. And no I've ever been in such considerations myself, precisely for the reasons I've stated.

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I never understood why players make so many calculations and spend so much time trying to find out what arena nets the most. Doing that is extremely inefficient. I mean, by the time you finished calculating, you'd have been better off clearing all the arenas for plenty of days, period. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

If one is really short on time, just clear the 2nd page of arenas without the SG ones and call it a day. And if you don't even have time for that, then just don't play. At least have a bit of consistency between your statements and your actions: if you don't have time to play, then why do you waste it an even worse way by doing calculations and futile optimization? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That was my humble two cents on that subject. And no I've ever been in such considerations myself, precisely for the reasons I've stated.

what do you mean it's "extremely inefficient"?
it takes less than a day, and by the time he have the correct value, he could use it forever.

the "calculation time" is technically instant as it's just put stuff on excel and write some calculation formula.
the amount of time used to make the color coded visual is double of that.

and it seems you mistakenly understand what saioux obejctive is, from my view he wants to know the most efficient way to spend his rested bonus stamina, not his time - for whatever reason he have.
and I did the same thing as him back there, that's why I take interest in his effort so I spare few seconds from every arena clear to record the exp and couple of minutes to make comparison. to actually try to help him.

what I really don't understand is people who refuse to spend a little time to understand other's perspective yet have time to diss their effort. ¯\(ツ)/¯

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Feb 2 2019, 16:10

Anyone who have Live Percentile can help me double-check this please?
Peerless Ethereal Club of Slaughter ADB: 99% unforged; 67.66 unforged base damage
Peerless Fiery Club of Slaughter ADB: 100% unforged; 67.72 unforged base damage

Peerless should be 100% on all stats right? So why is it that my ethereal is 99% adb while the fire one is 100% adb?

Hello everyone,

I wonder what to do with my credits.
I play 1H heavy armor. I completed my gear as far as I can tell (legendary power xxx of slaugther) and don't plan to go savage/slaugther or peerless soon.
Do you think I should save my money until I'm able to buy a gold star or should I invest in the Dæmon Duality perk.
So far, I have the following perks:
- Innate Arcana III
- Thinking Cap
- Crystarium I
- Postage Paid
Thanks a lot for your help.

Z.

Anyone who have Live Percentile can help me double-check this please?
Peerless Ethereal Club of Slaughter ADB: 99% unforged; 67.66 unforged base damage
Peerless Fiery Club of Slaughter ADB: 100% unforged; 67.72 unforged base damage

Peerless should be 100% on all stats right? So why is it that my ethereal is 99% adb while the fire one is 100% adb?

are you sure that's not because of calculation error?
the first one is forged, the second is not.

Iirc this has something to do with Butcher. A rounding error or so. It should be 100%.

are you sure that's not because of calculation error?
the first one is forged, the second is not.

Well I do vaguely remember that they have the same adb before I forged/IW the ethereal one but i can't really check it again without salvaging/reforging it now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) . It gave me a panic but if it's just calculation error due to Live percentile and not the actual equipment itself then it's not really a problem. Thanks

This post has been edited by Resha: Feb 2 2019, 17:56

Hello everyone,

I wonder what to do with my credits.
I play 1H heavy armor. I completed my gear as far as I can tell (legendary power xxx of slaugther) and don't plan to go savage/slaugther or peerless soon.
Do you think I should save my money until I'm able to buy a gold star or should I invest in the Dæmon Duality perk.
So far, I have the following perks:
- Innate Arcana III
- Thinking Cap
- Crystarium I
- Postage Paid

GS should be priority (with all cookies it's 160% exp boost + 6 hath and 10k gp/credits daily for you) but Crystarium I is cheap enough even if you don't play grindfest and post paid is very good if you use MM

but Crystarium I is cheap enough even if you don't play grindfest and post paid is very good if you use MM

Ehm, the way i understand his post, he allready has Crystarium I and Postage Paid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Ehm, the way i understand his post, he allready has Crystarium I and Postage Paid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yes, I already have Crystarium I.
I'm balancing between saving for a GS and investing in Dæmon Duality perk.

Z.

Ehm, the way i understand his post, he allready has Crystarium I and Postage Paid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

You're right, I'm distracted too often (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

So far, I have the following perks

VV and Tokenizer I are nice too

I'm balancing between saving for a GS and investing in Dæmon Duality perk.

Go for DD if you feel like you need to speed up fights a little bit, but in general GS is the way too go

This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Feb 2 2019, 19:27

Ok, I'll save for the GS then.
Thanks a lot for the answers.

Z.

Yes, I already have Crystarium I.
I'm balancing between saving for a GS and investing in Dæmon Duality perk.

Z.

Gold Star, always. Then after that Demon duality is very nice as well.