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post Jan 31 2019, 08:59
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Too complicated, didn't bother.
Can't we just PM you our PFFEST results?
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post Jan 31 2019, 11:36
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Could anyone give some advice on what to do to build DW fighting style?
Here's my stats info, as you can see i balanced everything except INT because I don't really know what DW should be focused on

And what suffixes I needed if I use leather armor? Should i balance them or focus on one? (yes I'm poor, can't afford shade)
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post Jan 31 2019, 13:12
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Pass by Decon's shop and auction and pick yourself up a set of Exq/Mag shade armor, maybe a legend here or there. Shouldn't cost more than ~100k-200k, which is ~5-10 precursor artifact.

Shade is a huge power boost due to 0 burden and ADB
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post Jan 31 2019, 13:22
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 31 2019, 00:10) *

The same way you pile them up while using 8 of them every day.
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You use 8 everyday, aside from FSM the first 2 rounds mmm...~?

And now that Blackjack is not actively buying trophies anymore, what are you guys doing with those trophies mmm...~?
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post Jan 31 2019, 13:42
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Jan 31 2019, 13:12) *

Pass by Decon's shop and auction and pick yourself up a set of Exq/Mag shade armor, maybe a legend here or there. Shouldn't cost more than ~100k-200k, which is ~5-10 precursor artifact.

Shade is a huge power boost due to 0 burden and ADB

Shade has less mitigation than leather right? So it drastically raise ADB and relies on evade?
Let me check on Decon's shop

QUOTE(VawX @ Jan 31 2019, 13:22) *

You use 8 everyday, aside from FSM the first 2 rounds mmm...~?

And now that Blackjack is not actively buying trophies anymore, what are you guys doing with those trophies mmm...~?

I heard that there'll be update on snowflake cheaper trophies RNG soon, but who knows when will it be, so I guess everyone just stacks their trophies

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post Jan 31 2019, 13:56
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How long does it take to level up from 250 to 300 without drinking ED? I've got some gears I bought that's around 300 lol.
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post Jan 31 2019, 14:29
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Jan 31 2019, 16:36) *

Could anyone give some advice on what to do to build DW fighting style?
Here's my stats info, as you can see i balanced everything except INT because I don't really know what DW should be focused on

And what suffixes I needed if I use leather armor? Should i balance them or focus on one? (yes I'm poor, can't afford shade)
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Shade has less mitigation than leather right? So it drastically raise ADB and relies on evade?


I think your evade is simply too low, even on low level it should be around 40-ish, as I could reach 60-ish with my "whatever" set.
and yes shade has less mitigation than leather, but not by much, moreover in general I believe damage avoidance is better than PMI/MMI, so if you could push your evade to 40%+, losing ~5% PMI/MMI (or maybe even up to 10%) is a good enough deal to take.
PMI/MMI is there when your damage avoidance fail, not the other way around.

QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 31 2019, 18:56) *

How long does it take to level up from 250 to 300 without drinking ED? I've got some gears I bought that's around 300 lol.


less than a month I believe, maybe 2-3 weeks or even much earlier if you could play in IWBTH/PFUDOR
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post Jan 31 2019, 14:44
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jan 31 2019, 14:29) *

I think your evade is simply too low, even on low level it should be around 40-ish, as I could reach 60-ish with my "whatever" set.
and yes shade has less mitigation than leather, but not by much, moreover in general I believe damage avoidance is better than PMI/MMI, so if you could push your evade to 40%+, losing ~5% PMI/MMI (or maybe even up to 10%) is a good enough deal to take.
PMI/MMI is there when your damage avoidance fail, not the other way around.

Ah I see, thanks for the advice, welp there goes more of my credits to decon lol
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post Jan 31 2019, 14:53
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 31 2019, 02:17) *

Not really, if you really want some blood tokens you have to play more than just the arenas, when you do that, they will start to pile up. And no, tokenizer doesnt actually help with that, or at last not much.

Oh of course tokenizer helps with that.... Tokenizer II is 3 times drop, III is 4 times drop. That's a lot more even though blood tokens benefit a bit less from the perks.
If you drop one from monsters everyday, that becomes ppl 2~4.
The bonus from completing Arenas sometimes only give you 1~3 tokens, which is not going to even support your FSM everyday if you don't have the perks.
QUOTE(VawX @ Jan 31 2019, 19:22) *

You use 8 everyday, aside from FSM the first 2 rounds mmm...~?

And now that Blackjack is not actively buying trophies anymore, what are you guys doing with those trophies mmm...~?

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How long does it take to level up from 250 to 300 without drinking ED? I've got some gears I bought that's around 300 lol.

Do not use more than 24 stamina a day. Keep your stamina over 80. Finish 60, 65, 80 first, then spare some on SGs and other Arenas.
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post Jan 31 2019, 15:02
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Any particular reason to finish 60,65,80 first as opposed to SGs? (What's up with 70?) Do they give the most exp per round I guess?

My plan was Second page+RE = roughly 1000 rounds, and do as many RE as possible above 80. If I spend 8 over 80 (=16 RE) and 16 under 80, that's 1000.

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post Jan 31 2019, 15:25
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 31 2019, 20:02) *

Any particular reason to finish 60,65,80 first as opposed to SGs? (What's up with 70?) Do they give the most exp per round I guess?

My plan was Second page+RE = roughly 1000 rounds, and do as many RE as possible above 80. If I spend 8 over 80 (=16 RE) and 16 under 80, that's 1000.


maybe it's counting that there are lower monster count on 70 and 75 round arena
though, I'm not sure about that after counting the multiplier.
assuming each monster (and SGs) gives roughly equal experience (which I'm not really sure if true). and the data on wiki is correct.

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first row is round, second is exp multipler, third is total monsters, and the 4th is a simple "number of monsters * exp multiplier / round", 5th is monsters/round

of course if we count for drop rate we should also consider that more monsters = more drop
so 60, 65, and 80 first is more profitable (drop wise) as those are the one with highest monsters/round, followed by DWD and so on.

but, once again, I'm not sure about exp.

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post Jan 31 2019, 18:12
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question about 1h/heavy: is it better to have a full plate armor or a mix of plate and power armor?
recently i got a couple of power equipment and i wonder if i should wait to have the full set of power equipments to make the switch or use the power equipment as soon as i get one
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post Jan 31 2019, 18:16
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QUOTE(prot993 @ Jan 31 2019, 17:12) *

question about 1h/heavy: is it better to have a full plate armor or a mix of plate and power armor?

Neither, better is having a full set of power armor.
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recently i got a couple of power equipment and i wonder if i should wait to have the full set of power equipments to make the switch or use the power equipment as soon as i get one

Well, because it is the same sort of armor you can mix them all you like, without any penalty. So i would say use as many power armor pieces in your set as you have.
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post Jan 31 2019, 18:21
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FYI, Tokenizer III nets more than 6 RoB tokens a day when clearing all arenas. At least I only ever use blood tokens on FSM and Konata, with one TT&T once in a while.
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post Jan 31 2019, 20:17
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 31 2019, 11:21) *

FYI, Tokenizer III nets more than 6 RoB tokens a day when clearing all arenas. At least I only ever use blood tokens on FSM and Konata, with one TT&T once in a while.


What's the reason for fighting Konata? Is it different from fighting her in SGs?
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post Jan 31 2019, 20:23
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 31 2019, 19:17) *

What's the reason for fighting Konata? Is it different from fighting her in SGs?

It sort of a trade. One Blood Token for a Chaos Token.
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post Jan 31 2019, 20:25
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don't fight konata, only FSM.
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post Jan 31 2019, 21:30
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jan 31 2019, 08:25) *

maybe it's counting that there are lower monster count on 70 and 75 round arena
though, I'm not sure about that after counting the multiplier.
assuming each monster (and SGs) gives roughly equal experience (which I'm not really sure if true). and the data on wiki is correct.

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first row is round, second is exp multipler, third is total monsters, and the 4th is a simple "number of monsters * exp multiplier / round", 5th is monsters/round

of course if we count for drop rate we should also consider that more monsters = more drop
so 60, 65, and 80 first is more profitable (drop wise) as those are the one with highest monsters/round, followed by DWD and so on.

but, once again, I'm not sure about exp.


But stamina does not affect drop rate, so in that essence, you shuld actually clear DwD because that's the arena with highest "effective" monsters per round in terms of exp.
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post Jan 31 2019, 21:48
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 31 2019, 18:17) *

What's the reason for fighting Konata? Is it different from fighting her in SGs?

It's because it's this:
1 blood token = 1000 credits + 2 trophies + 1 fair chance to get a new token
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post Jan 31 2019, 21:49
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 1 2019, 02:30) *

But stamina does not affect drop rate, so in that essence, you shuld actually clear DwD because that's the arena with highest "effective" monsters per round in terms of exp.


it wasn't me that saying 60 65 and 80 first
and I put that as a comparison when counting the multiplier, implying that eventhough 70 and 75 have lower monsters count, it is more or less in line with 60 65 and 80 when considering the exp multiplier.
and I indeed saying that 60 65 and 80 is more efficient "drop wise", never I said more efficient in terms of exp.
and I never said that the calculation is "correct" so take it with extra grains and salt, as I - stated twice already - am not sure whether SG gives same exp or not compared to normal monsters.

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