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Jan 30 2019, 19:21
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 18:15)  lolol.
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 18:15)  btw, should I try triple tiro on pfudor or not? It's gonna be a one time thing anyways but I def do not want to fuck up and waste 10 tokens
Tbh there is no real reason to make that fight harder as it should be. Just do it on a difficulty you are fine with and let it there.
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Jan 30 2019, 19:50
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ihatenamingthings
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As Uncle've said, I do arenas on Hell, but mostly because 2H can't push difficulty. AoE in exchange for almost nil survival, honestly I'm just hoping it'd work out somehow as it pales a lot comparing to 1H other than clear speed.
For SG, just kill everything else and start casting vital blow on OC. Remember to have heartseeker active and imperil.
Quick reminder that triple trio is 10 boss monster, so you might not wanna PFUDOR it
Also, token drop a lot from arenas. I gain ~5 token of blood a day, more or less.
This post has been edited by ihatenamingthings: Jan 30 2019, 19:54
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Jan 30 2019, 20:14
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xesxesgnik
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Hmm maybe because I didn't unlock the last two arenas yet? I'm gonna assume higher chance of token drop from later arenas, cuz so far i barely got two of three tokens a day, and I run arena on nintendo and lower arenas on pfudor. To that extent, maybe I was really unlucky with token drops :/
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Jan 30 2019, 20:17
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Uncle Stu
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Not really, if you really want some blood tokens you have to play more than just the arenas, when you do that, they will start to pile up. And no, tokenizer doesnt actually help with that, or at last not much.
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Jan 30 2019, 20:51
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xesxesgnik
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I see. I mean at some point I'll try IW or grindfest, but not anytime soon I think. Too afraid XD
EDIT: Wow I should really get better gears because now I'm having trouble completing the arenas that used be a breeze
This post has been edited by Saioux: Jan 30 2019, 21:02
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Jan 30 2019, 20:57
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Uncle Stu
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Yeah, those 1000 rounds do look impressive. But they are beatable with 1H and without SoL, Haste and Shadow Veil. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jan 30 2019, 21:05
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xesxesgnik
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for which difficult is grindfest start to worth all those staminas? Man that's 20 staminas <80 lol
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Jan 30 2019, 21:11
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Uncle Stu
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21 Stamina, Grindfest takes one additional stamina from you when you start it and i would say Hell is a good difficulty to start with. Of course just when you actually have at least some Crystarium Perks. Otherwhise i dont think all the effort would be worth it. I mean that is what is actually special about the Fest, the additional crystal drop chance and that every crystal drop gets a bonus the longer you acutally play. The max would be 50 Crystal per drop with max crystarium, at PFUDOR and after round 500.
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Jan 30 2019, 23:54
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 19:05)  for which difficult is grindfest start to worth all those staminas? Man that's 20 staminas <80 lol
It's more a matter if you do can survive it or not. I've started being able to clear PFFEST around Lvl365-370 for my part... ... with a lot of sweat. My first clears took around 2h30-3h00, which was quite unbearable. So really, forget about it for now: that's not the difficulty you're looking for. You need to be able to clear IW100 without too much difficulty before starting to think about trying PFFEST.
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Jan 31 2019, 01:01
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 21:05)  for which difficult is grindfest start to worth all those staminas? Man that's 20 staminas <80 lol
When you want to grind much more than all arenas and don't care about great stamina (double exp at 80+ stamina)
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Jan 31 2019, 07:39
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t_t_z
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If anyone does decide to test GF in 1H and see if it's profitable for them or not, can try plugging the data you get from Monsterbation into my sheet: [ drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-a-DAyzQ8v...iew?usp=sharingIf just using my data, my settings are for PFFEST full clear, loot perks: Crys5 Token2 LGBD 1. Remove my data except for the 1st sample (column A-I); if adding more data just copy paste rows 18-29 to the right with a blank column in between (K-S, etc) 2. (Paste the damage chart if you want; not necessary unless using the gfDmgAnalysis or such) 3. Leave the rows 18-29 alone except if you don't have Long Gone Before Daylight perk; if so change the /20 to /10 in cell A24 (to the left of Energy Drink) 4. For the following steps, either ensure that there isn't additional old data that isn't replaced after pasting (i.e. more rows with data from previous sample than new), or remove everything row 31 and below prior 5. For usages just make a temporary sheet or such and paste from the end combat screen "Regen: ...". Use Data->Text to Columns with delimiter ",". Cut the new data and Paste Special with Transpose. Then Data->Text to Columns again with delimiter colon ":". Paste the # usages starting at A31, and the names starting at B31. Fill down column C with formula from C29. 6. For loot, first clear column A in sheet gfTemp. Then go back to HV and select the loot (make sure to not include the round clear bonus) with click-and-drag and paste into a text editor like notepad to remove the buff icons you'll inevitably copy. Then copy the loot you get into sheet gfTemp's column A. Now copy the data from gfTemp's column B and C into gfProfit's column D and E. Fill down column F from F21. 7. For the rest, paste/fill out exp, turns, time as necessary. You can fill out the date with Ctrl-; Monsterbation's console log or fiddling with the code could probably make it a whole lot simpler, but haven't gotten to doing that yet. Additional notes for slightly more accuracy: 1. Change infusion name (or remove if you don't use) 2. Change prices / check average usage/losses in itemPriceUsages. Only some consumables have formula filled out for average usage/losses since it gets laggy for my computer when fill out too many; if you want you can copy paste to other rows If anyone does decide to use it, would be nice if can share the data with me as well to check effectiveness of different settings / etc.
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Jan 31 2019, 08:59
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KitsuneAbby
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Too complicated, didn't bother. Can't we just PM you our PFFEST results?
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Jan 31 2019, 11:36
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fuadhika
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Could anyone give some advice on what to do to build DW fighting style? Here's my stats info, as you can see i balanced everything except INT because I don't really know what DW should be focused on And what suffixes I needed if I use leather armor? Should i balance them or focus on one? (yes I'm poor, can't afford shade) This post has been edited by fuadhika: Jan 31 2019, 12:05
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Jan 31 2019, 13:12
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ihatenamingthings
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Pass by Decon's shop and auction and pick yourself up a set of Exq/Mag shade armor, maybe a legend here or there. Shouldn't cost more than ~100k-200k, which is ~5-10 precursor artifact.
Shade is a huge power boost due to 0 burden and ADB
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Jan 31 2019, 13:22
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VawX
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 31 2019, 00:10)  The same way you pile them up while using 8 of them every day.  How else? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) You use 8 everyday, aside from FSM the first 2 rounds mmm...~? And now that Blackjack is not actively buying trophies anymore, what are you guys doing with those trophies mmm...~?
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Jan 31 2019, 13:42
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fuadhika
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Jan 31 2019, 13:12)  Pass by Decon's shop and auction and pick yourself up a set of Exq/Mag shade armor, maybe a legend here or there. Shouldn't cost more than ~100k-200k, which is ~5-10 precursor artifact.
Shade is a huge power boost due to 0 burden and ADB
Shade has less mitigation than leather right? So it drastically raise ADB and relies on evade? Let me check on Decon's shop QUOTE(VawX @ Jan 31 2019, 13:22)  You use 8 everyday, aside from FSM the first 2 rounds mmm...~?
And now that Blackjack is not actively buying trophies anymore, what are you guys doing with those trophies mmm...~?
I heard that there'll be update on snowflake cheaper trophies RNG soon, but who knows when will it be, so I guess everyone just stacks their trophies This post has been edited by fuadhika: Jan 31 2019, 14:07
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Jan 31 2019, 13:56
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xesxesgnik
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How long does it take to level up from 250 to 300 without drinking ED? I've got some gears I bought that's around 300 lol.
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Jan 31 2019, 14:29
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Jan 31 2019, 16:36)  Could anyone give some advice on what to do to build DW fighting style? Here's my stats info, as you can see i balanced everything except INT because I don't really know what DW should be focused on And what suffixes I needed if I use leather armor? Should i balance them or focus on one? (yes I'm poor, can't afford shade)  QUOTE Shade has less mitigation than leather right? So it drastically raise ADB and relies on evade? I think your evade is simply too low, even on low level it should be around 40-ish, as I could reach 60-ish with my "whatever" set. and yes shade has less mitigation than leather, but not by much, moreover in general I believe damage avoidance is better than PMI/MMI, so if you could push your evade to 40%+, losing ~5% PMI/MMI (or maybe even up to 10%) is a good enough deal to take. PMI/MMI is there when your damage avoidance fail, not the other way around. QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 31 2019, 18:56)  How long does it take to level up from 250 to 300 without drinking ED? I've got some gears I bought that's around 300 lol.
less than a month I believe, maybe 2-3 weeks or even much earlier if you could play in IWBTH/PFUDOR
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Jan 31 2019, 14:44
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fuadhika
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jan 31 2019, 14:29)  I think your evade is simply too low, even on low level it should be around 40-ish, as I could reach 60-ish with my "whatever" set. and yes shade has less mitigation than leather, but not by much, moreover in general I believe damage avoidance is better than PMI/MMI, so if you could push your evade to 40%+, losing ~5% PMI/MMI (or maybe even up to 10%) is a good enough deal to take. PMI/MMI is there when your damage avoidance fail, not the other way around.
Ah I see, thanks for the advice, welp there goes more of my credits to decon lol
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Jan 31 2019, 14:53
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 31 2019, 02:17)  Not really, if you really want some blood tokens you have to play more than just the arenas, when you do that, they will start to pile up. And no, tokenizer doesnt actually help with that, or at last not much.
Oh of course tokenizer helps with that.... Tokenizer II is 3 times drop, III is 4 times drop. That's a lot more even though blood tokens benefit a bit less from the perks. If you drop one from monsters everyday, that becomes ppl 2~4. The bonus from completing Arenas sometimes only give you 1~3 tokens, which is not going to even support your FSM everyday if you don't have the perks. QUOTE(VawX @ Jan 31 2019, 19:22)  You use 8 everyday, aside from FSM the first 2 rounds mmm...~?
And now that Blackjack is not actively buying trophies anymore, what are you guys doing with those trophies mmm...~?
Treesloth QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 31 2019, 19:56)  How long does it take to level up from 250 to 300 without drinking ED? I've got some gears I bought that's around 300 lol.
Do not use more than 24 stamina a day. Keep your stamina over 80. Finish 60, 65, 80 first, then spare some on SGs and other Arenas.
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