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How much is the Savage prefix worth mmm...~?

Is it better to get 75% atk savage or 85% atk non-savage mmm...~?

I think that savage would be better because the difference between 75 and 85% isn't that big. But if it is very expensive, maybe another level of DD hath perk would be a better choice.

How much is the Savage prefix worth mmm...~?

Is it better to get 75% atk savage or 85% atk non-savage mmm...~?

Well, this is imo hard to say. But in this case i would go for the 75% savage.

So I've done some rough calculation, doing second page of the arena seems to be a good tradeoff between exp and income. Clearing every arena requires more than 24 stamina even under 80, so this halves the exp for RE as well, and the exp is reduced by 20% compared to only clearing top 5 arenas+RE above 80. Second page has 80% of total monsters in all arenas combined, but this is treating SG=Ultimate=Normal, so actual income difference should be much smaller.

So yea I guess I'm clearing the second page instead of everything or top 5 lol.

Last round arena have drop bonus though.

I clear every round since I need any extra chance for loot/artifact/gear, but that's preference, and arena last round have a loot bonus. The first page does not take as much energy, as there are significantly less rounds, making the clear rather fast too.

So I've done some rough calculation, doing second page of the arena seems to be a good tradeoff between exp and income. Clearing every arena requires more than 24 stamina even under 80, so this halves the exp for RE as well, and the exp is reduced by 20% compared to only clearing top 5 arenas+RE above 80. Second page has 80% of total monsters in all arenas combined, but this is treating SG=Ultimate=Normal, so actual income difference should be much smaller.

So yea I guess I'm clearing the second page instead of everything or top 5 lol.

If you have LGBD perk (or was it LGBTI?) then you may find that you are above 80% stamina at the start of a day. Two strategies:
- if you want to minimize your exp, and get the most income from the stamina: wait until your stamina is below 60% before taking the first ED of the day. I will never understand why someone would like to do that, this game is all about the exp and prof for me.
- if you want to maximize your exp: use your +80% stamina rounds as efficiently as possible. DWD is always a good choice. But the first rounds of the 2nd SG arena's have so little monsters, that it is only a good choice if you can finish it completely above 80%. Otherwise, choose the 1st SG arena or the 100round arena. If you keep above 80% with a lot of ED, then finish all highest arena's up to and including the 80round arena. After that, switch to peerless IW or grindfest. Boy, I love gaining EXP!

- if you want to minimize your exp, and get the most income from the stamina: wait until your stamina is below 60% before taking the first ED of the day. I will never understand why someone would like to do that, this game is all about the exp and prof for me.

Really? I do that all the time. Except once in a while when i make a whole day arena above 80 stamina.

Last round arena have drop bonus though.

I clear every round since I need any extra chance for loot/artifact/gear, but that's preference, and arena last round have a loot bonus. The first page does not take as much energy, as there are significantly less rounds, making the clear rather fast too.

Huh, I didn't know that, so maybe PFUDOR first arena last round is better than Nintendo DwD last round? Because right now I can clear the first few arenas in PFUDOR but later arenas I can only do Nintendo

This post has been edited by Saioux: Jan 30 2019, 18:04

If you have LGBD perk (or was it LGBTI?) then you may find that you are above 80% stamina at the start of a day. Two strategies:
- if you want to minimize your exp, and get the most income from the stamina: wait until your stamina is below 60% before taking the first ED of the day. I will never understand why someone would like to do that, this game is all about the exp and prof for me.
- if you want to maximize your exp: use your +80% stamina rounds as efficiently as possible. DWD is always a good choice. But the first rounds of the 2nd SG arena's have so little monsters, that it is only a good choice if you can finish it completely above 80%. Otherwise, choose the 1st SG arena or the 100round arena. If you keep above 80% with a lot of ED, then finish all highest arena's up to and including the 80round arena. After that, switch to peerless IW or grindfest. Boy, I love gaining EXP!

When can I start affording ED? I think at this point I don't have the luxury of drinking ED and I can't do peerless IW or PFFest anyways, so my calculation is really for low levels who can only do Nintendo/IWBTH Arena and PF RE lol.

Huh, I didn't know that, so maybe PFUDOR first arena last round is better than Nintendo DwD last round? Because right now I can clear the first few arenas in PFUDOR but later arenas I can only do Nintendo

I used to play DWD only for the trophies, at Hard, until my mage set became, well ... expensive. Works fine, just lacks a bit of EXP. But if it takes a lot of time to hack through the SG, you can better spend you time on the non-SG arena's at PFUDOR. Another option is to skip the 2nd SG arena altogether. That sucks a bit.

well, I'd assume extra loot on 1 kill vs extra on 10 kill would have a difference .

Other than that, I've found some nice loot/tokens doing earlier rounds, so I kept doing that. Any extra income helps, and a bit of exp loss from RE is the trade-off. You can fit 80 En+ for high arena and RE, with sub 80 En for lower rounds without Exp bonus. But honestly, it managing it and keeping things efficient is a bit too no-life for a game that's mostly meant to kill time.

well, I'd assume extra loot on 1 kill vs extra on 10 kill would have a difference .

Other than that, I've found some nice loot/tokens doing earlier rounds, so I kept doing that. Any extra income helps, and a bit of exp loss from RE is the trade-off. You can fit 80 En+ for high arena and RE, with sub 80 En for lower rounds without Exp bonus. But honestly, it managing it and keeping things efficient is a bit too no-life for a game that's mostly meant to kill time.

I guess the main problem is you can only fit two RE for every stamina you get to use above 80, and if you were to do all arenas, that's actually none without ED.

I used to play DWD only for the trophies, at Hard, until my mage set became, well ... expensive. Works fine, just lacks a bit of EXP. But if it takes a lot of time to hack through the SG, you can better spend you time on the non-SG arena's at PFUDOR. Another option is to skip the 2nd SG arena altogether. That sucks a bit.

So the trophies drop are not affected by difficulty? Was your primary reason for sticking to hard difficulty to save time or not being able to complete harder difficulty?

Also, when I start to encounter school girls, should I kill other monsters first or just focus on SG and wait for other monsters to die out to counter-attacks? Right now my parry and block chance sucks so I have to kill others to survive, but I was wondering for when I build enough parry and block

yep, so if you want to keep things efficient, you have to do all arena at dawn reset, wait for 12 hours before next dawn, play the game every 30 minutes for 12 hours to do all 12 REs

In other word, get a life lol

Trophies drop are static. But I'd assume you'd want to still clears it at high difficulty for the Exp bonus anyway. Refer to wiki here:

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level

For arena, higher difficulty is mostly for a potshot at some good gear, and experience

SG from my experience have garbage damage and sanity killing tankiness, kill them last. I play arena 2H, and they make my run miserable. On one hand, I never run out of OC, which is... exceptional for 2H, but on the other hand, that simply means I waste 20+ turns smashing their faces. HP/MP never runs out, as they deal no damage + draught overtime.

Yet another edit: Forgot to ask, but are you gaining enough token for daily spaghetti monster? Easy PFUDOR fight for good gear drop and ~40k worth of trophy drop.

This post has been edited by ihatenamingthings: Jan 30 2019, 18:45

Nope not even close. In fact, I only did my first FSM run just now. How do you earn five tokens a day?

What makes SG arena tricky for me is that it's kinda tricky to use OFC before SG shows up cuz too few monsters in each round, then after SG shows up, well, OFC doesn't kill them and since OFC drains OC it's better not to use OFC. At what difficulty are you playing SG arenas? I can actually clear the first one cuz of my level, and it kinda takes me around 25min at Nintendo. Maybe it will get better if I get some more gears - rn everything I have is like 170lv, and they are pre 0.82 garbos so they suck even for that level.

How do you earn five tokens a day?

The same way you pile them up while using 8 of them every day.

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The same way you pile them up while using 8 of them every day.

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lolol. btw, should I try triple tiro on pfudor or not? It's gonna be a one time thing anyways but I def do not want to fuck up and waste 10 tokens

lolol.

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btw, should I try triple tiro on pfudor or not? It's gonna be a one time thing anyways but I def do not want to fuck up and waste 10 tokens

Tbh there is no real reason to make that fight harder as it should be. Just do it on a difficulty you are fine with and let it there.

As Uncle've said, I do arenas on Hell, but mostly because 2H can't push difficulty. AoE in exchange for almost nil survival, honestly I'm just hoping it'd work out somehow as it pales a lot comparing to 1H other than clear speed.

For SG, just kill everything else and start casting vital blow on OC. Remember to have heartseeker active and imperil.

Quick reminder that triple trio is 10 boss monster, so you might not wanna PFUDOR it

Also, token drop a lot from arenas. I gain ~5 token of blood a day, more or less.

This post has been edited by ihatenamingthings: Jan 30 2019, 19:54

Hmm maybe because I didn't unlock the last two arenas yet? I'm gonna assume higher chance of token drop from later arenas, cuz so far i barely got two of three tokens a day, and I run arena on nintendo and lower arenas on pfudor. To that extent, maybe I was really unlucky with token drops :/

Not really, if you really want some blood tokens you have to play more than just the arenas, when you do that, they will start to pile up. And no, tokenizer doesnt actually help with that, or at last not much.