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Jan 30 2019, 14:44
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 13:38)  Wasn't searing skin activated from the beginning? No. I guess my question was there are like five levels to the spike shield, and after the initial level up which lets me use the spike shield for possible searing skin proc, the tool-tip says additional levels increase fire mitigation, so I was wondering if that is needed.
Oh, you did ask about the other levels? Sorry, i did missunderstand that. So, yes, the other level does nothing more than increase the fire mitigation afaik. And i would recommend those levels too. Fire mitigation is never a bad thing to have.
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Jan 30 2019, 15:10
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ihatenamingthings
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Which elemental mitigation matters the most (or most common/dangerous element that I'd want mitigated)?
Also, is it just me or the shadowcats hit like a truck? I swear those things are min-maxed to keep PL low, while nuking my HP and being a general nuisance to kill :/
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Jan 30 2019, 15:23
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 14:07)  Aight aight thank you uncle always (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You are welcome. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Jan 30 2019, 14:10)  Which elemental mitigation matters the most (or most common/dangerous element that I'd want mitigated)?
From my experience i would say Fire and Holy are the two you can never have too much of, also crushing even when this is not actually an elemental. QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 14:07)  Also, is it just me or the shadowcats hit like a truck? I swear those things are min-maxed to keep PL low, while nuking my HP and being a general nuisance to kill :/
Hm, let me check my notes. Nope, i was never killed by a shadowcat, so i cant confirm that they are actually more dangerous than other monster. But there are a few of them out there so i would think that they just got a few lucky hits on you.
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Jan 30 2019, 16:03
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hentailover6983
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So, this is more of a curiosity thing, but do you come across the monsters that you create in the Monster Lab or are they only confronted by other players and vice-versa for yourself?
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Jan 30 2019, 16:26
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chjj30
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 30 2019, 21:23)  From my experience i would say Fire and Holy are the two you can never have too much of, also crushing even when this is not actually an elemental.
I want to ask, where dose the main Holy Damage to you come from. In Monster Lab we have: Celestial Skill 2: must be holy Celestial Skill 3: can be holy, but can also be void Others we have: White Bunneh SP Attack Invisible Pink Unicorn Base Damage Invisible Pink Unicorn MP Attack
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Jan 30 2019, 16:26
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Jan 30 2019, 15:03)  So, this is more of a curiosity thing, but do you come across the monsters that you create in the Monster Lab or are they only confronted by other players and vice-versa for yourself?
When they have a high enough PL so that you can encounter them, you will encounter your own monster.
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Jan 30 2019, 17:07
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VawX
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How much is the Savage prefix worth mmm...~?
Is it better to get 75% atk savage or 85% atk non-savage mmm...~?
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Jan 30 2019, 17:12
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ihatenamingthings
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You're at a different power point than I am though, but it could be confirmation bias. I've seen both 1500 PL and 2200 PL shadowcats (1H RE) and the general observation is if I get a surprise nuke, or losing HP fast, there's a cat, and it's not stunned. If I gets 40%+ damage taken even when there's only a few things left alive, a shadowcat is one of them.
Could also just because there's so many of those damn cats :/
But I'm also too lazy to disable Monsterbation to check the log, so I'm not sure.
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Jan 30 2019, 17:22
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Noni
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QUOTE(VawX @ Jan 30 2019, 16:07)  How much is the Savage prefix worth mmm...~?
Is it better to get 75% atk savage or 85% atk non-savage mmm...~?
I think that savage would be better because the difference between 75 and 85% isn't that big. But if it is very expensive, maybe another level of DD hath perk would be a better choice.
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Jan 30 2019, 17:30
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(VawX @ Jan 30 2019, 16:07)  How much is the Savage prefix worth mmm...~?
Is it better to get 75% atk savage or 85% atk non-savage mmm...~?
Well, this is imo hard to say. But in this case i would go for the 75% savage.
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Jan 30 2019, 17:35
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xesxesgnik
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So I've done some rough calculation, doing second page of the arena seems to be a good tradeoff between exp and income. Clearing every arena requires more than 24 stamina even under 80, so this halves the exp for RE as well, and the exp is reduced by 20% compared to only clearing top 5 arenas+RE above 80. Second page has 80% of total monsters in all arenas combined, but this is treating SG=Ultimate=Normal, so actual income difference should be much smaller.
So yea I guess I'm clearing the second page instead of everything or top 5 lol.
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Jan 30 2019, 17:42
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ihatenamingthings
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Last round arena have drop bonus though.
I clear every round since I need any extra chance for loot/artifact/gear, but that's preference, and arena last round have a loot bonus. The first page does not take as much energy, as there are significantly less rounds, making the clear rather fast too.
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Jan 30 2019, 17:48
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Noni
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 16:35)  So I've done some rough calculation, doing second page of the arena seems to be a good tradeoff between exp and income. Clearing every arena requires more than 24 stamina even under 80, so this halves the exp for RE as well, and the exp is reduced by 20% compared to only clearing top 5 arenas+RE above 80. Second page has 80% of total monsters in all arenas combined, but this is treating SG=Ultimate=Normal, so actual income difference should be much smaller.
So yea I guess I'm clearing the second page instead of everything or top 5 lol.
If you have LGBD perk (or was it LGBTI?) then you may find that you are above 80% stamina at the start of a day. Two strategies: - if you want to minimize your exp, and get the most income from the stamina: wait until your stamina is below 60% before taking the first ED of the day. I will never understand why someone would like to do that, this game is all about the exp and prof for me. - if you want to maximize your exp: use your +80% stamina rounds as efficiently as possible. DWD is always a good choice. But the first rounds of the 2nd SG arena's have so little monsters, that it is only a good choice if you can finish it completely above 80%. Otherwise, choose the 1st SG arena or the 100round arena. If you keep above 80% with a lot of ED, then finish all highest arena's up to and including the 80round arena. After that, switch to peerless IW or grindfest. Boy, I love gaining EXP!
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Jan 30 2019, 17:53
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 30 2019, 16:48)  - if you want to minimize your exp, and get the most income from the stamina: wait until your stamina is below 60% before taking the first ED of the day. I will never understand why someone would like to do that, this game is all about the exp and prof for me.
Really? I do that all the time. Except once in a while when i make a whole day arena above 80 stamina.
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Jan 30 2019, 18:04
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Jan 30 2019, 10:42)  Last round arena have drop bonus though.
I clear every round since I need any extra chance for loot/artifact/gear, but that's preference, and arena last round have a loot bonus. The first page does not take as much energy, as there are significantly less rounds, making the clear rather fast too.
Huh, I didn't know that, so maybe PFUDOR first arena last round is better than Nintendo DwD last round? Because right now I can clear the first few arenas in PFUDOR but later arenas I can only do Nintendo This post has been edited by Saioux: Jan 30 2019, 18:04
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Jan 30 2019, 18:07
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 30 2019, 10:48)  If you have LGBD perk (or was it LGBTI?) then you may find that you are above 80% stamina at the start of a day. Two strategies: - if you want to minimize your exp, and get the most income from the stamina: wait until your stamina is below 60% before taking the first ED of the day. I will never understand why someone would like to do that, this game is all about the exp and prof for me. - if you want to maximize your exp: use your +80% stamina rounds as efficiently as possible. DWD is always a good choice. But the first rounds of the 2nd SG arena's have so little monsters, that it is only a good choice if you can finish it completely above 80%. Otherwise, choose the 1st SG arena or the 100round arena. If you keep above 80% with a lot of ED, then finish all highest arena's up to and including the 80round arena. After that, switch to peerless IW or grindfest. Boy, I love gaining EXP!
When can I start affording ED? I think at this point I don't have the luxury of drinking ED and I can't do peerless IW or PFFest anyways, so my calculation is really for low levels who can only do Nintendo/IWBTH Arena and PF RE lol.
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Jan 30 2019, 18:09
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Noni
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 30 2019, 17:04)  Huh, I didn't know that, so maybe PFUDOR first arena last round is better than Nintendo DwD last round? Because right now I can clear the first few arenas in PFUDOR but later arenas I can only do Nintendo
I used to play DWD only for the trophies, at Hard, until my mage set became, well ... expensive. Works fine, just lacks a bit of EXP. But if it takes a lot of time to hack through the SG, you can better spend you time on the non-SG arena's at PFUDOR. Another option is to skip the 2nd SG arena altogether. That sucks a bit.
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Jan 30 2019, 18:11
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ihatenamingthings
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well, I'd assume extra loot on 1 kill vs extra on 10 kill would have a difference .
Other than that, I've found some nice loot/tokens doing earlier rounds, so I kept doing that. Any extra income helps, and a bit of exp loss from RE is the trade-off. You can fit 80 En+ for high arena and RE, with sub 80 En for lower rounds without Exp bonus. But honestly, it managing it and keeping things efficient is a bit too no-life for a game that's mostly meant to kill time.
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Jan 30 2019, 18:22
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Jan 30 2019, 11:11)  well, I'd assume extra loot on 1 kill vs extra on 10 kill would have a difference .
Other than that, I've found some nice loot/tokens doing earlier rounds, so I kept doing that. Any extra income helps, and a bit of exp loss from RE is the trade-off. You can fit 80 En+ for high arena and RE, with sub 80 En for lower rounds without Exp bonus. But honestly, it managing it and keeping things efficient is a bit too no-life for a game that's mostly meant to kill time.
I guess the main problem is you can only fit two RE for every stamina you get to use above 80, and if you were to do all arenas, that's actually none without ED.
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