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Jan 29 2019, 03:31
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ihatenamingthings
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Yep, SS with OFC wipes, but you need at least 210 OC if you activate OFC with SS. If you have less (205, ex.), SS reduces it to below 200, and OFC fails to activate
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Jan 29 2019, 03:34
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(ihatenamingthings @ Jan 28 2019, 20:31)  Yep, SS with OFC wipes, but you need at least 210 OC if you activate OFC with SS. If you have less (205, ex.), SS reduces it to below 200, and OFC fails to activate
Oh, thanks. I guess that's the reason. It's misleading that I can activate OFC with SS below 210, but I can't use actually use it.
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Jan 29 2019, 04:24
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ihatenamingthings
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it happens for every OC skills. You need to pay for both the skill and the SS at the same turn, and if you can't pay the SS, the skill fails.
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Jan 29 2019, 05:07
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xesxesgnik
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Thank you for the information. I had to learn it the hard way lol.
Apart from that, could anyone provide some insights into buying some equipment? I'm not looking for endgame gears, nor am I going to soulfuse them. Just something decent enough to get going.
I'm looking at The Evil's low-to-mid level stuff auction, and am trying to get either power of slaughter or power of protection/warding. The difference mitigation seems to be much less than the difference in damage, and I was wondering how much mitigation do I need for reliable survival.
right now my mitigations are around 60%, I do PF RE and Nintendo Arena. I die during RE if I get unlucky/too many enemies, Nintendo Arena is pretty easy, I tried IWBTH and it costs a lot of consumable and I don't feel safe. Also, if I die one out of five RE on PF, should I just to IWBTH level?
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Jan 29 2019, 05:28
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Greshnik
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I think at low lv., you get more benefit from power of protection/warding than from slaughter... when you can finish PF arena easily, you can start searching for power slaughter... and yeah, if you still die at 1/5 PF RE, I would recommend to lower your difficulty first...
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Jan 29 2019, 06:21
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ihatenamingthings
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Out of curiosity, how fast are you clearing Arena? Just to make me feel miserable about sticking to 2H and can't graduate from Hell Arena (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Regarding PFURE, unlock IA and set Spark to auto-cast. You can abuse spark to tank a nuke instead of healing when you're around 10% health, and on top of that the damage reduction buff it gives. The added turns it give you (this is why you leave spark on auto - it does not cost you a re-cast cost) can make a huge difference. Cast as many buff as you think is needed for survival, even haste/veil. Your goal is to build 210 OC, and it should 1-shot the entire screen.
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Jan 29 2019, 07:24
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xesxesgnik
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I'll get back to you with an EDIT once I check it the next time I clear the arena, but I think the Trio and the Tree roughly took me about 15 minutes ish. Basically I 2~3 shot monsters with SS on, I get to use OFC every 4 turns or so. I want to move up to IWBTH, but I think that'll have to wait until better base dmg.
I've been doing that but without IA auto-cast lol, I'm gonna get it as soon as I get the 50 hath@4060. Right now I'm basically trying not to proc spark as much as possible, but yea I guess it's better let it proc once I'm considerably low since if I attack on turn which I would've otherwise spent healing, faster OC.
UGH wasn't Cloack of the Fallen supposed to provide immunity for one turn? When SoL proc and my hp was 1 w/ cloak of the fallen, I attacked and was defeated immediately :/
This post has been edited by Saioux: Jan 29 2019, 07:29
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Jan 29 2019, 07:59
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ihatenamingthings
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Scrolls are instant cast, you should try that for now. Trio is where 2H still shines a bit, anything above that is where the sun doesn't shine for me... low monster per round with high tankiness. Huge sanity killer.
Cloak gives you a huge defensive buff I believe, but not invulnerability.
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Jan 29 2019, 08:23
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Noni
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 29 2019, 01:16)  Any smart way to play HV on the phone? I tried a few times before but it took me about a thousand times longer to clear a single arena. Also, I can't seem to trigger RE on the phone. Any suggestion? I tried to find a virtual keyboard so I can at least enter commands but I also need the browser to work... didn't find anything useful (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) iphone4 btw The mobile phone settings in Monsterbation are excellent. Use the monster bar function. CODE // mobile settings clearRound = false, // clear target and reset hoverAction at round transition, to avoid lingering taps and make monsterBar safer spacedBar = false, // increase spacing of quickbar and monster bars monsterBar = [ [false,'213'], [true,'163','162','161'] ], This requires Firefox on mobile, with tampermonkey add-on added. This post has been edited by DJNoni: Jan 29 2019, 08:24
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Jan 29 2019, 08:29
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xesxesgnik
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When Spark of Life is triggered Cloak of the Fallen procs, which grants full immunity to damage during the turn that Spark triggers. Grants +75%? physical and magical mitigation bonus after the original proc. This is the tool-tip from the EHWiki, so I thought it grants immunity for one turn. Very misleading (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jan 29 2019, 09:04
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 29 2019, 13:29)  When Spark of Life is triggered Cloak of the Fallen procs, which grants full immunity to damage during the turn that Spark triggers. Grants +75%? physical and magical mitigation bonus after the original proc. This is the tool-tip from the EHWiki, so I thought it grants immunity for one turn. Very misleading (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) the turn when you act after spark triggered is not the turn when the spark triggered.
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Jan 29 2019, 09:16
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xesxesgnik
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Yea I kinda figured out after reading about the action speed. Thanks anyways! And this inherently implies that it's best to trigger SoL while attacking since its action speed is 1 and Cloak of Fallen will absorb attack from every monster. If I were to trigger it while casting haste, for instance, it's likely to get attacked whatever my action for next turn is.
Oh btw, is it normal to not use any of deprecating spells and the skills except for OFC? I never get a chance to use them really.
This post has been edited by Saioux: Jan 29 2019, 09:22
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Jan 29 2019, 09:24
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 29 2019, 05:24)  I'll get back to you with an EDIT once I check it the next time I clear the arena, but I think the Trio and the Tree roughly took me about 15 minutes ish. Basically I 2~3 shot monsters with SS on, I get to use OFC every 4 turns or so. I want to move up to IWBTH, but I think that'll have to wait until better base dmg.
I've been doing that but without IA auto-cast lol, I'm gonna get it as soon as I get the 50 hath@4060. Right now I'm basically trying not to proc spark as much as possible, but yea I guess it's better let it proc once I'm considerably low since if I attack on turn which I would've otherwise spent healing, faster OC.
UGH wasn't Cloack of the Fallen supposed to provide immunity for one turn? When SoL proc and my hp was 1 w/ cloak of the fallen, I attacked and was defeated immediately :/
Around your level, it's pretty normal not to be able to kill everything in a blitz. I had similar clear times when I was in your shoes, and there isn't much you can do. Judging by your difficulty setting, it appears to me that you're playing 1H, and frankly you can't possibly hope to get fast with 1H. If time really is an issue, then switch to 2H for the time being and accept not playing a difficulty as high as you could manage with 1H. Cloack of the Fallen is not here to allow you to tank for free while attacking like a brute, but to give you the opportunity to get back on your feet by healing and renewing your buffs. Possibly spending draughts and potions aswell.
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Jan 29 2019, 09:37
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 29 2019, 02:24)  Around your level, it's pretty normal not to be able to kill everything in a blitz. I had similar clear times when I was in your shoes, and there isn't much you can do. Judging by your difficulty setting, it appears to me that you're playing 1H, and frankly you can't possibly hope to get fast with 1H. If time really is an issue, then switch to 2H for the time being and accept not playing a difficulty as high as you could manage with 1H.
Cloack of the Fallen is not here to allow you to tank for free while attacking like a brute, but to give you the opportunity to get back on your feet by healing and renewing your buffs. Possibly spending draughts and potions aswell.
Thanks for the comment. Oh actually I'm absolutely fine with the clearing speed of arena@ nintendo. It's just that I tried IWTBH arena and, well I could try to pull it off, but it's way too many consumables and times for its worth. I mean I guess if I wanted to clear fast I would have to do mage but that'll be like endgame stuff, and I'm perfectly content with how 1H gets the job done and let me clear harder difficulty. While you are here by the way, any tips on selecting great pass-through items? I'm looking at your lovely auction right now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) More specifically, I'm curious about the following thing: 1. power of slaughter vs power of protection/warding - dmg gap between slaughter vs p/w seems to be much greater than pmit/mmit difference, should I still go for protection/warding? I mean 12% mit vs 10% mit is merely 0.88/0.9 ~ 2.3% dmg reduction, whereas attack dmg diff is around 200, which equates to about 8% for me. 2. sd vs se vs de - I'm aware that ADB doesn't mean shit at this tier, since I'm mainly looking at exq/low mag (i.e. 50k equips) and the diff are at most 20 damage, and sd diff can easily excess that. But if I were to compare sd and de of equal quality, which can result in dmg diff of up to 70 pts, does extra endurance of around 50 pts can shadow that? This post has been edited by Saioux: Jan 29 2019, 09:59
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Jan 29 2019, 09:50
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 29 2019, 14:37)  any tips on selecting great pass-through items?
don't get too fixated on legendaries, some magnificent or even exquisites are fine too, moreover on 1h-shield playstyle that isn't too equip dependent. as long as the said equip have 3 PABs (or even 2 with one of them dex) and decent stats on it's tier, such equip will work fine until ~350 provided it's near your level (or soulfused - which is relatively cheap for exquisites). use the live percentile script to look at the stats and compare it to it's higher/lower quality variant, you'll be surprised on how some equip aren't as bad/good as you though solely from quality label. don't worry too much about suffix either, aim for slaughter if you think you have good defense already, nobody know if you have one except yourself as different playstyle demand different stats (i.e using haste or not) as long as you know what each thing do, you should try to tweak it yourself. it's also a fair choice to go balance if you couldn't afford better slaughter and not having any actual need for extra defense from warding/protection dex is more all-around PAB, it provided a little attack and extra defense from parry, on the other hand str only boost attack, end only boost defense, once again, depends on your need. This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jan 29 2019, 09:56
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Jan 29 2019, 10:02
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xesxesgnik
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Thanks for your reply! Oh my, by no means I'm looking at anything NEAR legendary/high-mag lol. I'm just looking at high-exq/low-mag those that cost around 50k~100k that aren't soulfuse-worthy to get by haha.
So I guess DEX is a must since it is kidna all around; it seems exq rarely has three pab and I'm looking into those rn.
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Jan 29 2019, 10:05
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 29 2019, 07:37)  -snip- Tips? If anything, I'd say that staying focused on the stuff like "rapier+force shield+power" is a terrible mistake, and that's it's fairly possible to play other things without losing much, or even while being more efficient. But as to tell you what to play... no I'm definitely not fit to do that. Just follow your tastes.
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Jan 29 2019, 10:14
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xesxesgnik
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That'd be really the most ideal way, but I think that's gonna be a lot of headache to figure out the best comp lol, but I think it is awesome how you managed to pull it off.
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Jan 29 2019, 10:37
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Nayas
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Jan 29 2019, 11:02)  So I guess DEX is a must since it is kidna all around; it seems exq rarely has three pab and I'm looking into those rn.
I was running whatever good I could find at 200 and it was hard to make a choice too. I ended up using mag axe + exq force shield and leather/shade set. Pabs were really the biggest deciding factor, since you don't want to be forging/soulfusing items you want to replace.
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Jan 29 2019, 17:45
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mouisaac
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 29 2019, 01:23)  The mobile phone settings in Monsterbation are excellent. Use the monster bar function. CODE // mobile settings clearRound = false, // clear target and reset hoverAction at round transition, to avoid lingering taps and make monsterBar safer spacedBar = false, // increase spacing of quickbar and monster bars monsterBar = [ [false,'213'], [true,'163','162','161'] ], This requires Firefox on mobile, with tampermonkey add-on added. Thanks for the info! But, I can't get firefox because it requires ios 10.3 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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