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Someone here is clearly underestimating the power of parry... It may not be as powerful as block, but it allows to stop almost as many attacks as block.
But then magic attacks would be an issue? ... dude, that's what spirit shield and warding armor are for.

If one wants to buff up his defense as 1H, one can go with a waki of the Nimble, no doubt about it. But then the offense will be lacking a bit. Don't forget either that Block and Parry are both ruled by RNJesus, and that one may have bullshit high of both, it will take only one hit to hurt them seriously if the PMit, MMit and spirit shield aren't there to back you up.

For my part I'd say that he should follow a simple rule that worked very well for my part: the job of attacking is the weapon's, the job of defending is the armor's. So if he needs more defense, he needs armor with higher PMit, MMit, Block, a better shield (at a low level I'd recommend a Forge 5/15 Buckler of the Barrier or Reinforced Kite Shield of Protection), and then if it's still not enough he can consider using a waki of the nimble. ... or to think seriously about lowering the difficulty setting.

And why?

Because DD can contribute to clear time directly.
I value time more.
Crys and Token Improve your income, DD give you a faster clear time.
In the case, DD improves your income over time too.

Also, What Crystarium IV bring to you is negligible if you don't play GF.
2000 hath for 1.4x crystals drop,
It takes 1~2 years to pay off if you only drop 1 or 2 crystal pack per day.

Token II - 2500 hath for 1.5x token drop.
Not bad, but compared to Token I(1000 hath for 2x token drop) it is not that cost efficient.

This post has been edited by qr12345: Jan 24 2019, 10:06

Hm, well i see your point. Thanks for explain that.

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I was trying to give appropriate, empirical advice to an player considering his situation. I don't care if parry is that strong or not. Spirit shields do not save your ass because everybody is already using them while they ask they have trouble with survival. But players still die.
Using a wakizashi make he loses the benefit of penetrated armor. Then he would be slow as fuk with that mediocre survival. At the end of day while he begins to challenge PFD, he would again understand the importance of PA.

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True. Some players need to stop recommending crystal perks. It's a waste of money if one only plays Arena. On average 1yr. to pay off. Not to mention that the crystal markets already collapsed. Highest is 20k per pack on WTB.
They will need longer period to pay off if they use crystals on their own monsters. This will not increase their income.
Tokenizer is a great perk. I'd say Tokenizer I and II are very good already. Going III is not necessary.

Thanks @vincent and @decon for the advice.

My goal is to replace 2H for arena clears. Atm I'm running 2H on Hell arena, and I doubt I can continue that with higher difficulty without some serious investment. 1H seems to be the cheaper choice, but my main concern is still clear time. Mainly if I have to spend hours a day grinding the Arena, the game gets boring fast, tedious and repetitive. I'm here for the repetitive mindless grind, not a frustrating endless experience of near-death on a slowpoke pace.

So I'm mostly looking into how people play 1H. I've already spent the cash on the OFC (well, more like a reduction in liquidity), what's left is to pick a desired piece of gear to get.

I was trying to give appropriate, empirical advice

It really, really doesn't look like it, sorry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

All I'm given to see is someone who has wrong assumptions and little knowledge regarding the optimization of one's defense, who has "play rapier" as an answer to all issues and serves it to someone who wants to enhance his defense, which is completely unrelated.

Basically it was an extremely biased advice. Explain me how I can see that as empirical? If it really was your intention, well thanks for trying, but you're not conveying the proper info, nor doing it the proper way.

If you really want to give empirical advice, then first thank you for wanting to do so, second please do learn how to do it properly. I won't write an essay, so I'll keep it at this: don't tell players this or that is good/bad, do this/don't do that, but give them info regarding the options that are in their grasp, with their pros and cons, what are the results they can expect out of the choices he may be doing. In even shorter, don't say "do that", but "you can try doing that because".

I don't like lecturing, but I had to do it. No hard feelings. Cheers.

@ihatenamingthings:
Right now, 2H is a rather good option for you, but the obvious slowness of 1H is still compensated by a higher defense, even below Lvl250.

If you want to clear arenas faster, there are no secrets: you can either buff yourself up, whatever the means, or lower the difficulty setting. If you really want to clear as many arenas as possible everyday and optimize the raw credit income per time spent, then perhaps you can already try to play mage on Normal difficulty. If you can't "play mindlessly" with such a setting (which is quite likely but I'm not sure), then 2H is your best bet. It won't be as fast as maging, but it'll certainly be faster than playing 1H. If you do can equip power/shade armor in stead of plate/leather without needing too much healing, you'll benefit from a higher attack damage bonus to clear things faster. Of course, you won't be able to survive a difficulty setting (and potentially have better drops) as high as what you can get while playing 1H when playing 2H or mage.

In all cases, you cannot both maximize your income and save your time at once, it's just not possible without spending dozens of millions of credits which you probably don't have.
Be warned though: you won't drop Amnesia Shards on Normal. It is still often recommended to play at the very least on Hard difficulty to drop those, and the loss in clear time is usually minimal.

Personally, I prefer chosing an option that allows a good balance between time spent, healing, expense needed and income. A bit before Lvl400, I used to play arenas at Nightmare difficulty with my mage set, because that's the highest I could reach without needing too much healing, and it barely costed me any more time than lower difficulties. I mean, why playing a harder setting if it cripples my clear time, and why playing an easier setting if it cripples my income while barely saving time?

Hope you've got all the cards in your hands now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by decondelite: Jan 24 2019, 13:57

optimization of one's defense, who has "play rapier" as an answer to all issues and serves it to someone who wants to enhance his defense, which is completely unrelated.

I don't like lecturing.

I made recommendations based on his demand. Not "shoulds". That's all. You disagree with me since you only focus on defense, while I've assumed that new players want to clear Arenas as fast as possible, and comfortably.
That's why my advice was more comprehensive and directional. cuz I assume the rough goals he was going for, is not just "defense," behind the phrases regarding "defense", based on my experience as a melee player.

Rapiers+changing armors are the answer to this. One day he addresses defense, he will start complaining about speed. What I did was saving his time and our time.

There is always good and bad ways to play, objectively speaking, because the game is designed to be so. And most players want to be stronger, and faster. So I advised him to use rapiers before he could spends hours on SG runs.


Using a shortsword won't catch old players' attention. But if he start using axes, or clubs on an 1h build, other players might start making advice, just like how I did. It's a problem of extent, which you considered an issue of expression.

I don't like lecturing.

So do I. Not more excessive hate on ethereal...If he ever chooses ethereal, you and others will be the ones who start lecturing. It's a problem of extent.

Recommending a stronger playstyle does not affect his independence.

I just say that ethereal is overrated and not the best for 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Ah yes of course he'll be asking about speed someday, probably but not with 100% certainty. Let's leave him some time to learn the game by himself too, one step after another, shall we? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
That's like if someone said "I've read my first hentai today, I want to see more but don't know what to read" and you show him one of the most hardcore ones while saying "okay, now you want this". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Of course I wouldn't play a waki myself in his stead, and find a good balance between offense and defense, but keep in mind that doing mistakes, finding by yourself that you were going things the wrong way is very important too. If anything, I am one of those players who did the most stupid things and got called "offensively stupid" for that in the past, so I know oh too well. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

So let's just answer his questions, take our time to do it, and accompany him on his way to knowledge and wisdom.

Then I guess I'll continue on Hell and lower to Nightmare if it becomes a bit unbearable.

Regarding shade/power, I do get some sup/exq good pieces, but I'm going to limit it to RE. OFC will help that lots, and I'll push towards PFU RE soon enough, but I guess I'll stick to 2H light armor then. It's just frustrating since monsters are getting nightmare tanky, and maintaining the same difficulty is getting more and more annoying.

I'll see if I can buy/rent a good Ethereal estoc. I know about the debate, but I desperately need the AS for more survivability.

For now, I guess it's collecting 5 blood tokens for the daily spaghetti at least, I'll probably run less Arenas in general, or lower the difficulty at least. It isn't hard, it's just not brain dead, which hurts sanity when repeated hundreds of rounds a day.

Everybody's advice here sucks horribly.
As an improvement, I request you all try to suck less horribly in the future.

Here's meaningful advice:

1: Quit your job, stop paying the mortgage, and tell your significant other that they need to get the hell out.
2: Sell everything but your laptop, microwave, and refrigerator
3: Use that money on soda and frozen corn dogs.
4: Put hasps and padlocks on your doors
5: Put the fridge, microwave, corn dogs, and sodas next to your laptop
6: Buy every energy drink available
7: Play 24 hours a day, 7 days a week until you run out of energy drinks.
8: Buy every energy drink available.
9: Play 24 hours a day, 7 days a week until you run out of corn dogs/sodas
10: Rob a bank
11: Buy sodas and frozen corn dogs
12: Repeat steps 6 through 11 until you have every perk, training, and flagship equipment available.
13: Snap picture of your e-penis and upload so we can admire it.

Sincerely,

Roadtroll.

Uncle doesnt even have a laptop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Uncle doesnt even have a laptop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

oops..

Step 1a: Buy Laptop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Everybody's advice here sucks horribly.
As an improvement, I request you all try to suck less horribly in the future.

Here's meaningful advice:

1: Quit your job, stop paying the mortgage, and tell your significant other that they need to get the hell out.
2: Sell everything but your laptop, microwave, and refrigerator
3: Use that money on soda and frozen corn dogs.
4: Put hasps and padlocks on your doors
5: Put the fridge, microwave, corn dogs, and sodas next to your laptop
6: Buy every energy drink available
7: Play 24 hours a day, 7 days a week until you run out of energy drinks.
8: Buy every energy drink available.
9: Play 24 hours a day, 7 days a week until you run out of corn dogs/sodas
10: Rob a bank
11: Buy sodas and frozen corn dogs
12: Repeat steps 6 through 11 until you have every perk, training, and flagship equipment available.
13: Snap picture of your e-penis and upload so we can admire it.

Sincerely,

Roadtroll.

Playing like this is dangerous for Life and Health of a Person. People need to eat various Food, sleep enough, walk outside sometimes, clean the Haus. I recommand, if HV is really for some People as important as you say, and those People want to play more and longer, then they should live healthily and have Income. If they lose their Life or Freedom, they can't play more.

Step 1a: Buy Laptop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Sorry, you had to come up with that ealier. I did allready spend my money on a new vacuum cleaner. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Playing like this is dangerous for Life and Health of a Person. People need to eat various Food, sleep enough, walk outside sometimes, clean the Haus. I recommand, if HV is really for some People as important as you say, and those People want to play more and longer, then they should live healthily and have Income. If they lose their Life or Freedom, they can't play more.

True, but Road was probably not entirely serious (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Jan 24 2019, 16:24

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There's another option.

You can hire 3 or 4 people to play on relay scheme. Then it will be possible to play 24 hours a day. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And look on the bright side: you would be creating jobs. Have you thought about how many jobs would be created if everyone did this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

He wasn't entirely joking either, that's the worst. We do know some players who aren't far from that.

And that advice sucks too anyway. Just do like RoadShoe : take years of adopt-a-servers, sell the hath, get tokens thanks to the lottery. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

speaking of which, is there any way to speed up the turns?

Waiting for server syncs is driving me crazy. Daily grind would be less of a stress if I don't have to wait ~1-2s every action I take.

Play on [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org to get rid of the delay induced by the Cloudflare network. It does wonders.