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Jan 21 2019, 05:36
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Uncle Stu
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Just to make it visual. This is a single attack with an fully IWed holy weapon. Void Strike hits Angry Road Shoe for 2407 void damage. Holy Strike hits Angry Road Shoe for 1384 holy damage. You crit Angry Road Shoe for 9490 void damage.
Two strikes hit and the normal attack. And now the same weapon with an infusion of darkness. Void Strike hits Where Is My Barrier Buckler for 8298 void damage. Dark Strike hits Where Is My Barrier Buckler for 4003 dark damage. Holy Strike hits Where Is My Barrier Buckler for 1934 holy damage. You hit Where Is My Barrier Buckler for 15306 void damage.
Anymore questions?
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Jan 21 2019, 07:33
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sickentide
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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apparently riddlemasters become more frequent as you keep failing them... has anyone tried to game the system by deliberately failing riddles before starting record time attempts to maximise their blessings?
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Jan 21 2019, 08:16
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 21 2019, 06:33)  apparently riddlemasters become more frequent as you keep failing them... has anyone tried to game the system by deliberately failing riddles before starting record time attempts to maximise their blessings?
no, but it did happen once that I clicked the wrong pony at the start of a PFFEST, and yes that comes in handy. But be careful, the riddlemaster is a measure against botting. I would not recommend making mistakes on purpose, because if you make too many mistakes, who know what will happen? You might lose your account?
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Jan 21 2019, 09:08
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 21 2019, 00:59)  the common recommendation to use an estoc over everything is a modestly informed guess because few people have used 2H extensively. based on my observations i can recommend the following:
longsword of slaughter with power armour - choose this if you want the highest damage output estoc of slaughter with shade armour - choose this if curing less is more important to you than lower clear times mace for any challenge where longsword or estoc leave you with too little defence - i still need to run test to determine the ideal suffix on a mace, slaughter is a solid choice, but due to its peculiarities i cannot yet outrule balance as a valid contender
I second this. One small detail: 2H weapons have lower accuracy (except katanas) than 1H, so it's much less easy to reach 200% accuracy with a Slaughter weapon. It could be advisable to opt for a Balance weapon, especially when it comes to estocs that suffer from this the most. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to reach 200% with my Peerless Longsword fully forged.
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Jan 21 2019, 13:15
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sickentide
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 21 2019, 08:08)  it's much less easy to reach 200% accuracy with a Slaughter weapon.
ah yes, good that you mention this. when using a slaughter weapon i would try to use enough balance pieces to get 200%*, but choice of armour is a delicate matter as all suffixes have their merits and drawbacks *disregard this, i hadn't thought of voidseeker shards This post has been edited by sickentide: Jan 21 2019, 13:49
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Jan 21 2019, 13:40
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tox01
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 21 2019, 09:08)  I second this.
One small detail: 2H weapons have lower accuracy (except katanas) than 1H, so it's much less easy to reach 200% accuracy with a Slaughter weapon. It could be advisable to opt for a Balance weapon, especially when it comes to estocs that suffer from this the most. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to reach 200% with my Peerless Longsword fully forged.
Voidseeker Shard gives +50% to hit chance. It will be enough to reach > 200%.
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Jan 21 2019, 13:49
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andrew1590
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What is the going rate for Gold Star today? Still saving credit to buy it.
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Jan 21 2019, 13:52
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sickentide
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Jan 21 2019, 12:40)  Voidseeker Shard gives +50% to hit chance. It will be enough to reach > 200%.
ah, right. since i use full balance armour and never had to worry about accuracy, i totally forgot these even exist
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Jan 21 2019, 14:16
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(andrew1590 @ Jan 21 2019, 12:49)  What is the going rate for Gold Star today? Still saving credit to buy it.
Not sure, but i would say somewhere between 35M and 45M.
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Jan 21 2019, 14:35
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Jan 21 2019, 11:40)  Voidseeker Shard gives +50% to hit chance. It will be enough to reach > 200%.
True. But not needing them would definitely be better. I see these shards more as some buff fit for lower level players who can't IW their weapon and who certainly don't have our accuracy.
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Jan 21 2019, 14:44
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RoadShoe
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I just noticed on HV Utils the mage stats on the equipment page. How do you read those? IE -> The Mitigation @50% = max XXX, Avg XXX, Min XXX Is that the Mitigation of the monster? And the Mage score... is that like an overall "gee whiz" number or should it be analyzed against the rest? 
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Jan 21 2019, 14:44
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pooaa
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 21 2019, 19:52)  ah, right. since i use full balance armour and never had to worry about accuracy, i totally forgot these even exist
I think one or two balance with forge some weapon accuracy is easy to reach 200% And my question, won't estoc+power have more damage than longsword+power becaue of pa?
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Jan 21 2019, 14:49
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 21 2019, 13:44)  I think one or two balance with forge some weapon accuracy is easy to reach 200%
Iirc you can even reach the 200% with just reaching Level 480.
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Jan 21 2019, 14:49
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sickentide
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 21 2019, 13:44)  And my question, won't estoc+power have more damage than longsword+power becaue of pa?
in my tests, using haste they give about the same performance, but when you reduce attack speed, bleed damage outperforms bonus damage from PA. and when you're on a slow connection it's not even a contest: longsword/imperil gives the lowest turn count
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Jan 21 2019, 14:51
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 21 2019, 13:49)  in my tests,
Tbh, in your test i think comparing a peerl with a good but imo not great leg, does falsifies the result.
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Jan 21 2019, 14:58
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 21 2019, 13:51)  Tbh, in your test i think comparing a peerl with a good but imo not great leg, does falsifies the result.
i have mentioned that when i posted the results. the total difference in attack damage between the estoc used and a peerless one is about 1%, and from what i've seen while forging the estoc the impact on clear times is even less. most other relevant stats are close enough to peerless, and total PA rate is 0.5% below peerless it seems "good but not great" only if you look at the raw numbers and assume ADB is everything without examining the real impact of each stat This post has been edited by sickentide: Jan 21 2019, 15:05
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Jan 21 2019, 15:06
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Uncle Stu
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But this is not just about the damage, crit chance, STR, DEX that all is reduced compare to the Longsword and iirc the difference wasnt that big. I mean you are talking about what you did post in the ponychat a few days ago right?
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Jan 21 2019, 15:11
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sickentide
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99% crit chance, 98% STR, 74% DEX, and the difference on DwD was far too significant to be just because of that
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Jan 21 2019, 15:14
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Uncle Stu
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Hm, well maybe you are right. But it still gives me to think.
Btw, do we know how the bleeding damage is calculated?
This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jan 21 2019, 15:38
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Jan 21 2019, 16:51
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 21 2019, 14:14)  Hm, well maybe you are right. But it still gives me to think.
i understand, but i have to work with what i can get. if you send a peerless estoc my way i will gladly repeat the trials QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 21 2019, 14:14)  Btw, do we know how the bleeding damage is calculated?
not exactly, here's what i know: each stack applies a certain amount of damage per turn, scaling in a linear fashion. the damage per stack is calculated from attack base damage (elemental strikes have no effect), as evidenced by all changes to attack base damage affecting bleed damage, including changing armour, heartseeker and spirit stance. however, the percentages do not correspond to the 30% and 20% given on the equip info: i get about 17% per stack with longsword and 11% with axe
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