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post Jan 21 2019, 03:57
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I have some confusion about strikes.

Does the number of strikes affect the total damage, ignoring mitigations?

Wouldn an IW 9 void weapon be maximizing damage, since that high-level monsters have high mitigations against other elements but no mitigation against void damage?

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I would suggest you give patience and waiting for blackjac.

Another rich player is buying, but the price is too low I decide to wait for a few days and see if blackjac competes
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post Jan 21 2019, 04:00
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Nobody buy Trophy in WTB now.
Maybe I should use it myself.
What should i choose equipment for more credits.

treesloth is buying trophies for a limited time. The prices are lower than blackjac00's, but payment has been quick so far.
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post Jan 21 2019, 04:19
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Jan 21 2019, 01:57) *

I have some confusion about strikes.

Does the number of strikes affect the total damage, ignoring mitigations?

Wouldn an IW 9 void weapon be maximizing damage, since that high-level monsters have high mitigations against other elements but no mitigation against void damage?

I don't know if I am exactly correct but as my observation, damage for elemental strike and void strike is calculated by a multiplier to your normal attack and then it will be reduced by specific mitigation.

So the damage of void strike should be greater than any elemental strikes generally.
Having void strike + extra elemental strikes for your weapon is always better than having void strike only.

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post Jan 21 2019, 04:29
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Jan 21 2019, 10:19) *

I don't know if I am exactly correct but as I know, damage for elemental strike and void strike is calculated by a multiplier to your normal attack and then it will be reduced by specific mitigation.

So the damage of void strike should be greater than any elemental strikes generally.
Having void strike + extra elemental strikes for your weapon is always better than having void strike only.

Nah
I mean if the extra strikes give you extra damage, ignoring mitigations.

If the total average damage of strikes is fixed in respect to attack damage, then void strike only would be the best. Because the fixed strike damage is only distributed to different strikes.

If every extra strike brings more damage, in addition to the original strike, then 3 strikes would always be the best.

I assume it's the latter. Just to make sure
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post Jan 21 2019, 04:31
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Jan 21 2019, 02:29) *

Nah
I mean if the extra strikes give you extra damage, ignoring mitigations.

If the total average damage of strikes is fixed in respect to attack damage, then void strike only would be the best. Because the fixed strike damage is only distributed to different strikes.

If every extra strike brings more damage, in addition to the original strike, then 3 strikes would always be the best.

I assume it's the latter. Just to make sure

I get your point.
The latter case is right.

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post Jan 21 2019, 05:36
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Just to make it visual. This is a single attack with an fully IWed holy weapon.
Void Strike hits Angry Road Shoe for 2407 void damage.
Holy Strike hits Angry Road Shoe for 1384 holy damage.
You crit Angry Road Shoe for 9490 void damage.

Two strikes hit and the normal attack. And now the same weapon with an infusion of darkness.
Void Strike hits Where Is My Barrier Buckler for 8298 void damage.
Dark Strike hits Where Is My Barrier Buckler for 4003 dark damage.
Holy Strike hits Where Is My Barrier Buckler for 1934 holy damage.
You hit Where Is My Barrier Buckler for 15306 void damage.

Anymore questions?
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post Jan 21 2019, 07:33
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apparently riddlemasters become more frequent as you keep failing them... has anyone tried to game the system by deliberately failing riddles before starting record time attempts to maximise their blessings?
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post Jan 21 2019, 08:16
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 21 2019, 06:33) *

apparently riddlemasters become more frequent as you keep failing them... has anyone tried to game the system by deliberately failing riddles before starting record time attempts to maximise their blessings?

no, but it did happen once that I clicked the wrong pony at the start of a PFFEST, and yes that comes in handy. But be careful, the riddlemaster is a measure against botting. I would not recommend making mistakes on purpose, because if you make too many mistakes, who know what will happen? You might lose your account?
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post Jan 21 2019, 09:08
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 21 2019, 00:59) *

the common recommendation to use an estoc over everything is a modestly informed guess because few people have used 2H extensively. based on my observations i can recommend the following:

longsword of slaughter with power armour - choose this if you want the highest damage output
estoc of slaughter with shade armour - choose this if curing less is more important to you than lower clear times
mace for any challenge where longsword or estoc leave you with too little defence - i still need to run test to determine the ideal suffix on a mace, slaughter is a solid choice, but due to its peculiarities i cannot yet outrule balance as a valid contender

I second this.

One small detail: 2H weapons have lower accuracy (except katanas) than 1H, so it's much less easy to reach 200% accuracy with a Slaughter weapon. It could be advisable to opt for a Balance weapon, especially when it comes to estocs that suffer from this the most. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to reach 200% with my Peerless Longsword fully forged.
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post Jan 21 2019, 13:15
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 21 2019, 08:08) *

it's much less easy to reach 200% accuracy with a Slaughter weapon.

ah yes, good that you mention this. when using a slaughter weapon i would try to use enough balance pieces to get 200%*, but choice of armour is a delicate matter as all suffixes have their merits and drawbacks

*disregard this, i hadn't thought of voidseeker shards

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post Jan 21 2019, 13:40
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 21 2019, 09:08) *

I second this.

One small detail: 2H weapons have lower accuracy (except katanas) than 1H, so it's much less easy to reach 200% accuracy with a Slaughter weapon. It could be advisable to opt for a Balance weapon, especially when it comes to estocs that suffer from this the most. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to reach 200% with my Peerless Longsword fully forged.

Voidseeker Shard gives +50% to hit chance. It will be enough to reach > 200%.
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post Jan 21 2019, 13:49
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What is the going rate for Gold Star today? Still saving credit to buy it.
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post Jan 21 2019, 13:52
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Jan 21 2019, 12:40) *

Voidseeker Shard gives +50% to hit chance. It will be enough to reach > 200%.

ah, right. since i use full balance armour and never had to worry about accuracy, i totally forgot these even exist
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post Jan 21 2019, 14:16
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What is the going rate for Gold Star today? Still saving credit to buy it.

Not sure, but i would say somewhere between 35M and 45M.
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post Jan 21 2019, 14:35
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Jan 21 2019, 11:40) *

Voidseeker Shard gives +50% to hit chance. It will be enough to reach > 200%.

True. But not needing them would definitely be better.
I see these shards more as some buff fit for lower level players who can't IW their weapon and who certainly don't have our accuracy.
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post Jan 21 2019, 14:44
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I just noticed on HV Utils the mage stats on the equipment page.

How do you read those?
IE -> The Mitigation @50% = max XXX, Avg XXX, Min XXX

Is that the Mitigation of the monster?
And the Mage score... is that like an overall "gee whiz" number or should it be analyzed against the rest?

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post Jan 21 2019, 14:44
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 21 2019, 19:52) *

ah, right. since i use full balance armour and never had to worry about accuracy, i totally forgot these even exist

I think one or two balance with forge some weapon accuracy is easy to reach 200%
And my question, won't estoc+power have more damage than longsword+power becaue of pa?
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post Jan 21 2019, 14:49
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 21 2019, 13:44) *

I think one or two balance with forge some weapon accuracy is easy to reach 200%

Iirc you can even reach the 200% with just reaching Level 480.
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post Jan 21 2019, 14:49
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 21 2019, 13:44) *

And my question, won't estoc+power have more damage than longsword+power becaue of pa?

in my tests, using haste they give about the same performance, but when you reduce attack speed, bleed damage outperforms bonus damage from PA. and when you're on a slow connection it's not even a contest: longsword/imperil gives the lowest turn count
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post Jan 21 2019, 14:51
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 21 2019, 13:49) *

in my tests,

Tbh, in your test i think comparing a peerl with a good but imo not great leg, does falsifies the result.
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