[X] My Assistant

I use enchant and get a buff continue 15m.
So if i play 'A Dance with Dragons' 1 hour,will it disappear in the process?
Or continue until the fight end?

15 minutes are 15 minutes and not 1 hour and 15 minutes.

I use enchant and get a buff continue 15m.
So if i play 'A Dance with Dragons' 1 hour,will it disappear in the process?
Or continue until the fight end?

Yes, it will fade in the battle but you can enchant multi-times for a longer effect.
So you can enchant 4 Infusions for 1 hour effect.

Just a question.
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/f7IIBsa.png)
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/6wVeL0x.png)

I've maxed Haste ages ago and still shows 25% in the buff bar. And is equiped in a slot.

This post has been edited by ~Shyboy: Jan 20 2019, 15:43

I've maxed Haste ages ago and still shows 25% in the buff bar. And is equiped in a slot.

Weird, but maybe the text just doesnt has another version, but the speed is actually as high as it should be. Dont know, i havent used haste in ages. And i never did give those texts much attention. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

Sadly I have no way to know if the buff got updated or no, I think I'll just refrain the use of it if I don't have to.

Sadly I have no way to know if the buff got updated or no, I think I'll just refrain the use of it if I don't have to.

Fine, i did test it myself just for you and i got the same 25% even when they are suppose to be 50%. Yeah, when it comes to abilities i am pretty lazzy and just never unslot them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) So dont worry, when you have maxed out better haste, you are faster than those 25% in the description.

Does IW10 weapons have 2 strikes regardless or only if it came with a prefix?

The wiki seems to suggest that it would strike twice, but it doesn't make sense for a non-prefix to gain a second strike (damage changed to void, but no elemental strike).

Also, does this mean rapiers and estoc penetration effect isn't needed, since you'd get void damage anyway?

Does IW10 weapons have 2 strikes regardless or only if it came with a prefix?

You only get one strike as 10th Potency. When the weapon is ethereal it will get a random elemental strike, if not it will be hollowforged and get void strike.

Also, does this mean rapiers and estoc penetration effect isn't needed, since you'd get void damage anyway?

And what has the penetrated armor debuff from rapier or estoc to do with void damage? Nothing, right? Yeah, absolutly nothing.

Does IW10 weapons have 2 strikes regardless or only if it came with a prefix?

The wiki seems to suggest that it would strike twice, but it doesn't make sense for a non-prefix to gain a second strike (damage changed to void, but no elemental strike).

Also, does this mean rapiers and estoc penetration effect isn't needed, since you'd get void damage anyway?

IW10 weapon without prefix = void strike
IW10 weapon with prefix = void strike + 1 elemental strike

Physical mitigation and specific mitigation are different things.
Monsters have 0 specific mitigation to void damage but they still have physical mitigation.
Your attack is a composite of physical and void attack, so penetrated armor works.

Also, does this mean rapiers and estoc penetration effect isn't needed, since you'd get void damage anyway?

void =/= bypass defense
void simply have no "specific mitigation"
it's like your fire spell need to bypass monster's magical mitigation even if it have 0 fire resistance.



This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jan 20 2019, 17:33

You only get one strike as 10th Potency. When the weapon is ethereal it will get a random elemental strike, if not it will be hollowforged and get void strike.

I'm still a bit confused. Ethereal is straightforward, but elemental/no prefix is what confuses me. Here's how I see it:

Elemental weapons:
+ Normal attack -> Void strike
+ Elemental Strike
- TOTAL : 2 strikes

No prefix:
+ Normal attack -> Void strike (?)
- TOTAL : ? strike(s)

The wiki (and your answer) seems to imply that no prefix also get 2 strikes, but I can't see where it's coming from.

elemental strike =/= normal attack

Ethereal :
- normal attack (void)
- void strike

Ethereal IW 10
- normal attack (void)
- void strike
- elemental strike

elemental prefix
- normal attack (Crushing/slashing/piercing)
- elemental strike

elemental prefix IW10
- normal attack (void)
- elemental strike
- void strike

no prefix
- normal attack (crushing/slashing/piercing)

no prefix iw 10
- normal attack (void)
- void strike

how they look on battle could be seen on the post before yours.
and not everything on wiki are correct or worded correctly.
if you find anything wrong or don't make sense report them to the EHWiki Report Thread.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jan 20 2019, 17:44

Thanks, that triple 10:29 reply though lol

Didn't even noticed your reply was there until now.

The wiki (and your answer) seems to imply that no prefix also get 2 strikes, but I can't see where it's coming from.

No, i dont. I say every ethereal weapon gets a random elemental strike and all non ethereal weapon will get a voidstrike. I dont even understand where you can read there two strikes for non ethereal weapons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Which 2h weapon is often used by people?

Which 2h weapon is often used by people?

Meta says Estoc of Slaughter.

Personally I think other choices may be good too.

PS. I like Longswords (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Jan 20 2019, 18:02

--

In addition, every weapon can have void strike + 2 elemental strike at most.
Under this condition, whenever you hit a monster you will get 4 damages,
they are:
normal attack
void strike
elemental strike 1
elemental strike 2

No, i dont. I say every ethereal weapon gets a random elemental strike and all non ethereal weapon will get a voidstrike. I dont even understand where you can read there two strikes for non ethereal weapons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I count the normal attack as one separated attack, and since the damage conversion and void strike goes hand in hand, it gets... confusing. It would also means that elemental weapon gets 3 separated attack in 1 hit, which... is not specifically mentioned anywhere.

Also, this would implies that Ethereal gets a much smaller power spike comparing to other weapons, which I didn't expect. It didn't benefit from the void conversion, and it gets a weaker elemental strike.

I count the normal attack as one separated attack,

And you are right with that, but it is no strike.

and since the damage conversion and void strike goes hand in hand, it gets... confusing.

Okay, now i got it what confuse you.

It would also means that elemental weapon gets 3 separated attack in 1 hit, which... is not specifically mentioned anywhere.

Actually you can even have 4 seperate attacks in one hit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) The normal attack, the elemental strike, void strike and to all this you can add with an infusion another elemental strike.

Also, this would implies that Ethereal gets a much smaller power spike comparing to other weapons, which I didn't expect. It didn't benefit from the void conversion, and it gets a weaker elemental strike.

What? I mean i allways talk about ethereal is overrated. But here you are wrong. Because two identical weapons, one ethereal and the other elemental, bot fully IWed and with the same elemental strike. Have the same damage. The only difference between those two would be lack of burden and interference.

What? I mean i allways talk about ethereal is overrated. But here you are wrong. Because two identical weapons, one ethereal and the other elemental, bot fully IWed and with the same elemental strike. Have the same damage. The only difference between those two would be lack of burden and interference.

I'm under the impression that it's a trade off between damage and burden/interference?

Assuming the only difference between the two is Ethereal and Elemental:

+ Basic attack is both void, same value
+ IW10 void strike Vs IW10 Elemental strike (which I assume is 50%, I've read that number somewhere, wiki does not really clarify this bit of info)
+ Extra elemental strike vs Nothing

Wouldn't that mean elemental variant end up with ~20-30% more damage?