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post Jan 16 2018, 13:12
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Which one is better?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/149872107/2c3fb9a217
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/149177959/c2f3e119ed

Switching to 1H. Quiet new to it.
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post Jan 16 2018, 13:33
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QUOTE(Setton-san @ Jan 16 2018, 12:12) *


Second one.
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post Jan 16 2018, 13:39
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 16 2018, 19:33) *

Second one.

I thought so too and just wanted to make sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Oh wait, then how come it's so much cheaper than the first one?

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post Jan 16 2018, 13:53
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It is cheaper because it is not of slaughter but of nimble. In the end you want an elemental rapier of slaughter. Artic is mostly suggestet as the best elemental, because it is a good combination with the best spike shield which is fire. So, why do you want an elemental but not an ethereal rapier? Burden. And also because with an elemental rapier you know right from the beginning what elemental you get. Of course you could in theory IW any ethereal rapier to the element you want by reforging it, when you didnt got the element you want. But if you would also want the perfect IW for a 1H rapier, that could cost millions of credits and a lot of time. It is nothing i would suggest. Of course you could like some people suggest, just IW it up to 9 but not 10 and so let the element free, so you could just set it with infusions just as you like it, but that had to be a fully forged rapier, because upgrades also give some potency, so sometime you would still end up with a random elemental.

Personaly i would say, if i had to choose between those to. I would just for the start take the Ethereal Rapier of
Slaughter. I mean it is just Mag and also of nimble, so you will sooner or later anyway switch the rapier.
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post Jan 16 2018, 14:08
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QUOTE(Setton-san @ Jan 16 2018, 12:39) *

I thought so too and just wanted to make sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Oh wait, then how come it's so much cheaper than the first one?


Because the average player thinks that Ethereal and Slaughter are always better. So they must be more expensive. I have never claimed that the start price in my auctions reflect the actual quality of an equipment.

For a 1H playstyle, Nimble may have less ADB, but it will increase both your defense and the amount of counterattacks drastically, to the point of making a greater global damage output, especially when you're playing with power armor. Hallowed is also the best prefix for a 1H playstyle, as you do need your weapon's burden and it's efficient against SGs.

If anything, Hallowed Rapier of the Nimble is probably the best weapon one could get to play 1H. Or Hallowed Wakizashi of the Nimble, if you don't mind spamming Imperil and the small attack speed bonus. Some would argue that Slaughter is the best suffix, but frankly when you play Power 1H it's not the 10% of difference in your total attack damage bonus that will make a difference, except in e-penis contests.

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post Jan 16 2018, 16:28
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Right now I got 5 monsters ranging from 200th to 350lvl, from gift factor 108% to 120%.
They are not costing me much to keep them fed, and I haven't used a pill on them since start because morale never dropped so low. The best they they ever did was bringing me a mid grade materials, the one with GF at 108% does brings all the same stuff as the 120% GF one, and is like 150 levels lower if that matters.
I don't know if I should get more monsters or count on a rare gift with 1 to X chances bringing something I can sell.
Or as another option: buy as many monster slots as I can and go for quantity instead.

At what % gift factor and/or level will these useless fucks bring me a hg cloth or wood at least instead of being parasites
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post Jan 16 2018, 16:30
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QUOTE(sv24 @ Jan 16 2018, 15:28) *

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Go for quantity dude, and monsters start bringing high grade at PL 500 or so.
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post Jan 16 2018, 17:48
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[webm.xyz] This is what you get when you forget to magnet on this asshole tree, also wombo combo @ the end.
All thi clicking, yes I know. I can't get used o using numpad so talk bout sloppy, wish you could bind all the keys yourself instead of having unchangeble binds.

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post Jan 16 2018, 17:52
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Just use monsterbation and never ever use the numpad again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

And i second what gianfrix did say about quantity. Numbers. Monsters is all about numbers. Having double the monster amoung means double chance to get a phazon as gift.

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post Jan 16 2018, 17:55
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QUOTE(sv24 @ Jan 16 2018, 16:48) *

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Jesus dude how much magic do you use.
Anyway, you can bind all the keys yourself with Monsterbation, ya know?
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post Jan 16 2018, 18:11
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 16 2018, 16:55) *

Jesus dude how much magic do you use.

yep. i was looking at it this way: (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE

Anyway, you can bind all the keys yourself with Monsterbation, ya know?

speakig of which, iirc the keybind portion should be working even as a standalone...
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post Jan 16 2018, 18:15
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 16 2018, 16:55) *

Jesus dude how much magic do you use.
Anyway, you can bind all the keys yourself with Monsterbation, ya know?

It was PFUDOR and I wanted to rek them in few strikes
and if I knew you could change binds I wouldn't ask would I (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)?

@Uncle-stu
Yes I am using monsterbation, I didn't mean binds (1 to 0 keys specifically) to hit monsters.
I want to bind all I need to it fits under palm for my preference (1,2,3,4,Q,W,E,R,A,S,D,space, tab)


Also for ordinary arena/IW/RE rounds all I use is weaken, eventually imperil for last 3 arenas
I was kinda bored in here ;D

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post Jan 16 2018, 18:17
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Oh, i didnt even knew that bation could do that. But i am still using the first version that did wörk after the script killing update, so.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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post Jan 16 2018, 18:20
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QUOTE(sv24 @ Jan 16 2018, 17:15) *

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 16 2018, 17:17) *

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Now you both know you can bind whatever to whatever, so go and test it out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 16 2018, 17:11) *

speakig of which, iirc the keybind portion should be working even as a standalone...

Standalone? So you'd deactivate all the rest and keep only that? Why would someone do that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Jan 16 2018, 18:22
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 16 2018, 05:11) *
I'm bad, so everyone's bad!

Sorry, but I've had enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
I remember what I said last time. That was in the context of literally doing nothing but spamming Attack, which as a reminder is conjecture, not a proven fact that it's faster than using skills. People just go with it because most people's goal is to make the game play itself while they're watching something on another screen. (Not hard to do when scripts contain the biggest cheat of all: cutting off your inputs when your health is low. Anti-bot rules are a joke when this exists.) I actually do things before posting (and before my post last night I beat the entire first page of arena just to make sure), but back then I was using
  • no item world
  • no forge
  • no infusion
  • no spells
  • no skills
  • no items
  • no absorb or points in absorb
  • no shadow veil
  • a far inferior weapon
And most importantly
  • NO ATTACK SPEED
This was also under the assumption that arena was harder than IW, because last I played it was the same as gf, starting at 50% damage and getting a little harder each round plus a modifier based on item quality. Boy was I surprised when I went back to arena and found out IW starts at 100% and gets 2% stronger per round! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Everybody knows mace is ezmode, so I'm sure you weren't using that. But you don't need 50 forges in physical damage to pull it off, either. And if that weren't enough, I've already explained in great detail exactly how to play down to what freaking buttons to press! Unfortunately, you were 100% serious when you claimed 2h is "impossible" without full peerless. But it shouldn't be too surprising since you had a day-long build up about game-changing common knowledge (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) So you never ONCE put on your gear, look at your stats, and saw it wasn't straight addition? This game does not require a math degree. It doesn't even require much thought. I can turn any shell-shocked noob into a war-chiseled Uziga Waita-fapping hentai master with this simple program:

Put on any equipment and abilities you want.
Set it to normal.
Try to beat it as quickly as possible until no more improvements can be made.
Raise the difficulty until it stops working.
Improve your gear until it stops working again.
If you're not already at pfudor, adjust your tactics until you are.

By starting on normal and playing with speed in mind, this forces you to optimize everything you're doing. As the difficulty and gear changes, you actually learn what works for you and your current gear set instead of what item sellers want to you believe and trying to fit into a model that you just aren't ready for yet. This even allows you to get around the mage traps because you'll see that rotating elements is less efficient than stacking a single element and spamming it, but only if you follow the plan to the letter. You don't need five wiki tabs and a calculator (but wiki problems are a whole nother post); all you have to do is play the game, and it's even easier in modernverse with mostly free respecs and personas.

I'm not one to gear shame but
>of balance
>no iw
>1500

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EDIT: probably important, but I did not use fus roh dah. Doesn't really help without the attack speed anyway. 10% damage (and 3 evade lol) is more important.

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post Jan 16 2018, 18:30
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 16 2018, 13:55) *

Jesus dude how much magic do you use.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 16 2018, 14:11) *

yep. i was looking at it this way: (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

BASED Debuffs (҂ `з´ ) that is why
If can't kill them all just imperil + hoover choices are lower difficulty which would be silly or just weaken/blind/silence them all ٩(◕‿◕。)۶
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post Jan 16 2018, 18:35
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 16 2018, 17:20) *

Now you both know you can bind whatever to whatever, so go and test it out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Standalone? So you'd deactivate all the rest and keep only that? Why would someone do that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

nope. keybind was initially one script, which was subsequently included into monsterbation.
i'm saying that maybe keybind is available on its own.



@ qw3rty67 and decon: what's up, guys?
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post Jan 16 2018, 18:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 16 2018, 17:35) *

nope. keybind was initially one script, which was subsequently included into monsterbation.
i'm saying that maybe keybind is available on its own.

Oh, i undertand now.
I think it isn't available as a standalone anymore, since it calls the same functions as the rest of the script, but bound to the keys.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 16 2018, 17:35) *

what's up, guys?

Idk, but i laughed when i reached Usagi (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Jan 16 2018, 19:06
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Can you show me where do I exactly asign the keys using monsterbation? Screencap it or something?
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QUOTE(sv24 @ Jan 16 2018, 18:06) *

Can you show me where do I exactly asign the keys using monsterbation? Screencap it or something?


Could you please try to read the instructions within the script first?

Hint: it starts at row 130
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