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post Jan 15 2019, 19:48
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 00:41) *

May I know the distribution of monster types? What do people normally pick? Currently I have equal number of each type and am wondering if I should make some of them more than the others. I'm thinking when they reach high PL some of them have higher chance of killing someone?


check jenga's monster database, ctrl+f each type and see the number on the search result.

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could somebody link me again on that research in penetrated armor vs bleeding wound comparison
if I'm not mistaken it's on the Japanese thread.
I know it's damn old, but maybe somebody still keep the link (or know an easy way to search it except going through every pages on the thread)

nvm, I guess this one.

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post Jan 15 2019, 20:28
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 15 2019, 17:41) *

Tokenizer I or Crys II + IA IV?

I recommend Tokenizer I.

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post Jan 15 2019, 20:36
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 15 2019, 18:41) *

Tokenizer I or Crys II + IA IV?

Tokenizer I > Crystarium II > IA IV.

But tbh i really have to ask, do you even need IA IV at all? I stoped at IA III.
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post Jan 15 2019, 22:28
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sorry guys I accidentally locked this thread, my bad.
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post Jan 15 2019, 23:28
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DJNoni's 90m staff has temporarily made me more interested in mages. What are the most important attributes of a staff?

On most melee equipment, most people only care about ADB, and pricing is often 100% dependent on ADB and minimally dependent on side stats (I don't fully agree with that, and I don't acquire an interest in pieces according to the same criteria, although the amount I'll pay tends to align by necessity). On rapiers, depending on the people bidding, the stat weighting tends to vary from 100% ADB importance, to something like 70% ADB 30% parry.

I always assumed staffs might be valued based on something like roughly 50% MDB and 50% EDB, but I guess I was forgetting Elemental/Divine/Forbidden proficiency. How important is that in comparison?

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I spend 21 feathers (3 hours worth) for every 1H PFFEST I do, and 2 feathers (2 hours worth on the staff) to clear arenas as mage.
Why not using these things that buff you up, while you can literally buy them 15/20c apiece? I don't regret buying a stock of 3000 of them back then. And my stock does go down, mind you.

That time and cost breakdown was really helpful thanks, and I see now why you speak so often of feathers. I mentioned before that I used a fair number of them myself over a year ago, that was in IW when I was weak. Since I don't do grindfests yet, at present I would only consider feathers when I have something to IW (and I don't need them anymore).

Low and medium level 1H players might find it helpful to feather just their Force Shield on arenas. I use a buckler so I have no need to do it, but that option is yet another perk of Force Shields.

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mitigation reduction from imperil and elemental procs shows up in scan results (this is why monsters have to be unaffected for the scan to be submitted), so you can also check that to be 100% sure

Thanks! I wonder if this could be related to the fact that only the elemental day bonus does not show up in the scan results? The elemental day bonus remains additive in all regards, so there's nothing else distinguishing it from imperil and spike shield elemental procs, other than the cap difference.
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post Jan 16 2019, 04:26
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Sorry, where do I find that monster database? Is it being tie to the Juice script?


QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 15 2019, 13:36) *

Tokenizer I > Crystarium II > IA IV.

But tbh i really have to ask, do you even need IA IV at all? I stoped at IA III.


Ok, I'll get Token I first then. I already consider it as expensive ._.

Since three auto-castings drain my mp faster than I can regenerate, so I thought it would be a good idea to get to IA IV. Or do I need the RR perk?



I'm interested in knowing how that staff worth 90m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) and more generally how to differentiate it from HGW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)



QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 14 2019, 18:30) *

Just for a heads up: I spend 21 feathers (3 hours worth) for every 1H PFFEST I do, and 2 feathers (2 hours worth on the staff) to clear arenas as mage.
Why not using these things that buff you up, while you can literally buy them 15/20c apiece? I don't regret buying a stock of 3000 of them back then. And my stock does go down, mind you.


I bought few thousand feathers with 100c each, was it 15/20c in the past? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

So the main purpose of using a feather is to reduce interference right? (not burden)

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post Jan 16 2019, 04:37
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

Sorry, where do I find that monster database? Is it being tie to the Juice script?

Here
[hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com/
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

I'm interested in knowing how that staff worth 90m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) and more generally how to differentiate it from HGW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Well, i dont know what specific 90M staff you are talking about, but what a good staff set apart from HGW staffs is the stats, fiting suffix and prefix and been the right type of staff. I mean a Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall is HGW but a Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall is jackpot.

QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

I bought few thousand feathers with 100c each, was it 15/20c in the past? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I would sell you feather weights for 11c each. What greedy person does sell feather weights at 100c?

QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

So the main purpose of using a feather is to reduce interference right? (not burden)

No, the main purpose of using them is to reduce burden. Well, maybe 1H mages would care about that and use it reduce interference of their buckler.
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post Jan 16 2019, 04:48
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 15 2019, 18:26) *
Since three auto-castings drain my mp faster than I can regenerate, so I thought it would be a good idea to get to IA IV. Or do I need the RR perk?

Huh. I have IA IV, but I still drink mana draughts and manage to breakeven/come close to it on pots used. Are you breaking even?

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post Jan 16 2019, 04:54
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

Ok, I'll get Token I first then. I already consider it as expensive ._.

Expensive, but more than worth it, believe.
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Since three auto-castings drain my mp faster than I can regenerate, so I thought it would be a good idea to get to IA IV. Or do I need the RR perk?

That is normal at your level, if you are a bit patient your upkeep will fall as your support prof will increase. And imo IA IV and RR are not what i would call a must have perk.
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post Jan 16 2019, 05:33
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Thanks for the link!

Yeah, that is not really a big issue so IA III is good then.


Wait but force shield has really low burden, why not use feathers on armors instead? Isn't 50% reduction work out to reduce a lot more on burden?

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post Jan 16 2019, 05:36
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 04:33) *

Wait but force shield has really low burden, why not use feathers on armors instead? Isn't 50% reduction work out to reduce a lot more on burden?

1H mages dont use force shields, they use buckler.
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post Jan 16 2019, 05:45
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 15 2019, 16:28) *

Low and medium level 1H players might find it helpful to feather just their Force Shield on arenas. I use a buckler so I have no need to do it, but that option is yet another perk of Force Shields.



I was referring to this quote so that's why I am wondering about using feathers just on the force shield.

How does the data come from? Do people often scan monsters? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 04:45) *

How does the data come from? Do people often scan monsters? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

From scanning monster with monsterbation. And when i look at how many of my monster are still unscanned or havent been scanned in years, peopl actually just scan monsters above PL 1200. Everything below that can take years to be scanned for the first time.
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post Jan 16 2019, 06:41
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since there's a shared low level account with disabled trading for testing purposes, it might be interesting to set up a script that periodically enters a RE, scans all monsters and flees, to get more data on low-level monsters
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 15 2019, 19:45) *

I was referring to this quote so that's why I am wondering about using feathers just on the force shield.


Force shield has the highest interference on 1H equips. Second most interence is any type of Body Armor not Mithril.
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post Jan 16 2019, 07:14
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 16 2019, 05:41) *

since there's a shared low level account with disabled trading for testing purposes, it might be interesting to set up a script that periodically enters a RE, scans all monsters and flees, to get more data on low-level monsters

And also grant every owner of those monster a free win aka gift. As much as i would like to see some of my monsters scanned, i am not a fan of that idea.
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post Jan 16 2019, 07:36
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I am getting the following error message: "statelock limiter in effect". Anyone know what is causing this?

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post Jan 16 2019, 07:40
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When and where do you get the message?
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 16 2019, 02:40) *

When and where do you get the message?

On the HentiaVerse page, it occurs when I to reallocate abilities.
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post Jan 16 2019, 08:04
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Weird. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) But can you at least reallocate your abilities?
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