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post Jan 15 2019, 02:12
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been wondering this for a while, why is it now that i unlocked all monster slots still appears "253 chaos tokens needed to unlock next monster slot" message? Shouldn't it just be monster slots maxed or nothing at all?
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post Jan 15 2019, 02:59
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 14 2019, 22:36) *

Interesting, so it looks like a gamestyle to be recommended. But whould you say the feather shards are necessary to play 2H Power or do you think with enough PM MM it would be even good without? Btw are you actually playing this on normal? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


I usually play longest Arenas with less then 80 stamina (entering and exiting IW to lower it) and at normal difficulty, because atm I don't want any EXP bonus. Already having the EXP from 50 Adept Learner and the cookies makes me level up a bit faster then I'd wish.

But in that case, the play is so easy, that I don't need neither shards nor potions, and don't need to keep attention, just wack-wack.

On higher difficulty, like Nintendo, I have to use all, and keep attention to everything. While my Estoc is forged to level 5, my armour pieces are not though. I suspect that with higher forging and full IW on everything, I could do IWBTH too (and perhaps PFUDOR), but I'm not interested in trying it atm.

If I want to do IWBTH, and even PFUDOR on shorter Arenas, I just have to switch back to 1H.

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post Jan 15 2019, 05:50
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jan 15 2019, 07:12) *

been wondering this for a while, why is it now that i unlocked all monster slots still appears "253 chaos tokens needed to unlock next monster slot" message? Shouldn't it just be monster slots maxed or nothing at all?


Maybe the slot got increased last patch, or so I remember mmm...

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 15 2019, 06:30) *

Just for a heads up: I spend 21 feathers (3 hours worth) for every 1H PFFEST I do


Wait, is using feathers actually beneficial for 1H style mmm...~?
I thought reducing burden will increase your aspd and evasion which is not always good for 1H mmm...~?


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post Jan 15 2019, 06:11
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QUOTE(VawX @ Jan 15 2019, 04:50) *

Wait, is using feathers actually beneficial for 1H style mmm...~?
I thought reducing burden will increase your aspd and evasion which is not always good for 1H mmm...~?

True, but a PFest is really hard. I mean so hard that even a high block and parry only helps you so much. So he uses the feather weights to increase evade, to increase speed and by that reduce also the overall damage he takes. It is not even uncommon to use haste and shadow veil in the last part of a PFest as 1H.
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post Jan 15 2019, 06:13
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 15 2019, 11:11) *

True, but a PFest is really hard. I mean so hard that even a high block and parry only helps you so much. So he uses the feather weights to increase evade, to increase speed and by that reduce also the overall damage he takes. It is not even uncommon to use haste and shadow veil in the last part of a PFest as 1H.


Well I personally use Haste and Shadow Veil in late round of PFest actually, never really thought about feather before, maybe I'll try it later mmm...
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post Jan 15 2019, 06:17
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Personally i did too use haste and shadow veil, but now that i did it completly without, i guess i will even stop that. But i have no experience with the feather, i could do it without, so there was just no reason to me to use them.
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post Jan 15 2019, 10:52
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1H style, 8256 base damage, level 365

Overwhelming Strikes, Heartseeker, Spirit Stance always active

Imperil + Penetrated Armor 3

Void Strike 12584 ~ 18876 versus Haruhis
Wind Strike 11609 ~ 16988 versus Haruhis with Freezing Limbs
Wind Strike 8282 ~ 12458 versus Haruhis

Void Strike 12780 ~ 18933 versus Konata
Wind Strike 13067 ~ 19122 versus Konata with Freezing Limbs
Wind Strike 12748 ~ 18963 versus Konata
Dark Strike 5822 ~ 8520 versus Konata

It's difficult to inflict Freezing Limbs so my data ranges are not as perfect this time. But it's solid enough to prove that Spike Shield ailments are also additive and capped at zero mitigation like Imperil. There were no surprises and everything else worked out as it should. Only the day element bonus can drop mitigation negative.
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post Jan 15 2019, 16:01
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My friend got some problem.
When he open hentaiverse,display 'Account Suspended'.
And in Forums,display 'The error returned was:Your account has been temporarily suspended. This suspension is due to end on Jan 15 3019, 20:00.'

It's mean he cheat or something?
We both play with same IP.
I am worried that I will encounter the same thing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Jan 15 2019, 16:47
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QUOTE(mimimami @ Jan 15 2019, 15:01) *

My friend got some problem.
When he open hentaiverse,display 'Account Suspended'.
And in Forums,display 'The error returned was:Your account has been temporarily suspended. This suspension is due to end on Jan 15 3019, 20:00.'

It's mean he cheat or something?
We both play with same IP.
I am worried that I will encounter the same thing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This probably means that Admin banned the account. You can't have more than 1 account, and it might be that admin means 1 per IP address but I don't know these things. You could ask admin, but low chance that he will respond. Read the wiki and terms of use carefully, or you can get banned.
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post Jan 15 2019, 18:04
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 15 2019, 09:52) *

But it's solid enough to prove that Spike Shield ailments are also additive and capped at zero mitigation like Imperil.

mitigation reduction from imperil and elemental procs shows up in scan results (this is why monsters have to be unaffected for the scan to be submitted), so you can also check that to be 100% sure
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post Jan 15 2019, 19:41
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May I know the distribution of monster types? What do people normally pick? Currently I have equal number of each type and am wondering if I should make some of them more than the others. I'm thinking when they reach high PL some of them have higher chance of killing someone?

Tokenizer I or Crys II + IA IV?
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post Jan 15 2019, 19:48
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 00:41) *

May I know the distribution of monster types? What do people normally pick? Currently I have equal number of each type and am wondering if I should make some of them more than the others. I'm thinking when they reach high PL some of them have higher chance of killing someone?


check jenga's monster database, ctrl+f each type and see the number on the search result.

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could somebody link me again on that research in penetrated armor vs bleeding wound comparison
if I'm not mistaken it's on the Japanese thread.
I know it's damn old, but maybe somebody still keep the link (or know an easy way to search it except going through every pages on the thread)

nvm, I guess this one.

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post Jan 15 2019, 20:28
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 15 2019, 17:41) *

Tokenizer I or Crys II + IA IV?

I recommend Tokenizer I.

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post Jan 15 2019, 20:36
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 15 2019, 18:41) *

Tokenizer I or Crys II + IA IV?

Tokenizer I > Crystarium II > IA IV.

But tbh i really have to ask, do you even need IA IV at all? I stoped at IA III.
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post Jan 15 2019, 22:28
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sorry guys I accidentally locked this thread, my bad.
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post Jan 15 2019, 23:28
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DJNoni's 90m staff has temporarily made me more interested in mages. What are the most important attributes of a staff?

On most melee equipment, most people only care about ADB, and pricing is often 100% dependent on ADB and minimally dependent on side stats (I don't fully agree with that, and I don't acquire an interest in pieces according to the same criteria, although the amount I'll pay tends to align by necessity). On rapiers, depending on the people bidding, the stat weighting tends to vary from 100% ADB importance, to something like 70% ADB 30% parry.

I always assumed staffs might be valued based on something like roughly 50% MDB and 50% EDB, but I guess I was forgetting Elemental/Divine/Forbidden proficiency. How important is that in comparison?

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I spend 21 feathers (3 hours worth) for every 1H PFFEST I do, and 2 feathers (2 hours worth on the staff) to clear arenas as mage.
Why not using these things that buff you up, while you can literally buy them 15/20c apiece? I don't regret buying a stock of 3000 of them back then. And my stock does go down, mind you.

That time and cost breakdown was really helpful thanks, and I see now why you speak so often of feathers. I mentioned before that I used a fair number of them myself over a year ago, that was in IW when I was weak. Since I don't do grindfests yet, at present I would only consider feathers when I have something to IW (and I don't need them anymore).

Low and medium level 1H players might find it helpful to feather just their Force Shield on arenas. I use a buckler so I have no need to do it, but that option is yet another perk of Force Shields.

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mitigation reduction from imperil and elemental procs shows up in scan results (this is why monsters have to be unaffected for the scan to be submitted), so you can also check that to be 100% sure

Thanks! I wonder if this could be related to the fact that only the elemental day bonus does not show up in the scan results? The elemental day bonus remains additive in all regards, so there's nothing else distinguishing it from imperil and spike shield elemental procs, other than the cap difference.
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post Jan 16 2019, 04:26
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Sorry, where do I find that monster database? Is it being tie to the Juice script?


QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 15 2019, 13:36) *

Tokenizer I > Crystarium II > IA IV.

But tbh i really have to ask, do you even need IA IV at all? I stoped at IA III.


Ok, I'll get Token I first then. I already consider it as expensive ._.

Since three auto-castings drain my mp faster than I can regenerate, so I thought it would be a good idea to get to IA IV. Or do I need the RR perk?



I'm interested in knowing how that staff worth 90m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) and more generally how to differentiate it from HGW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)



QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 14 2019, 18:30) *

Just for a heads up: I spend 21 feathers (3 hours worth) for every 1H PFFEST I do, and 2 feathers (2 hours worth on the staff) to clear arenas as mage.
Why not using these things that buff you up, while you can literally buy them 15/20c apiece? I don't regret buying a stock of 3000 of them back then. And my stock does go down, mind you.


I bought few thousand feathers with 100c each, was it 15/20c in the past? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

So the main purpose of using a feather is to reduce interference right? (not burden)

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post Jan 16 2019, 04:37
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

Sorry, where do I find that monster database? Is it being tie to the Juice script?

Here
[hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com/
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

I'm interested in knowing how that staff worth 90m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) and more generally how to differentiate it from HGW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Well, i dont know what specific 90M staff you are talking about, but what a good staff set apart from HGW staffs is the stats, fiting suffix and prefix and been the right type of staff. I mean a Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall is HGW but a Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall is jackpot.

QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

I bought few thousand feathers with 100c each, was it 15/20c in the past? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I would sell you feather weights for 11c each. What greedy person does sell feather weights at 100c?

QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

So the main purpose of using a feather is to reduce interference right? (not burden)

No, the main purpose of using them is to reduce burden. Well, maybe 1H mages would care about that and use it reduce interference of their buckler.
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post Jan 16 2019, 04:48
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 15 2019, 18:26) *
Since three auto-castings drain my mp faster than I can regenerate, so I thought it would be a good idea to get to IA IV. Or do I need the RR perk?

Huh. I have IA IV, but I still drink mana draughts and manage to breakeven/come close to it on pots used. Are you breaking even?

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post Jan 16 2019, 04:54
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

Ok, I'll get Token I first then. I already consider it as expensive ._.

Expensive, but more than worth it, believe.
QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 16 2019, 03:26) *

Since three auto-castings drain my mp faster than I can regenerate, so I thought it would be a good idea to get to IA IV. Or do I need the RR perk?

That is normal at your level, if you are a bit patient your upkeep will fall as your support prof will increase. And imo IA IV and RR are not what i would call a must have perk.
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