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post Jan 14 2019, 06:38
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1H style, 8253 base damage, level 365

Overwhelming Strikes, Heartseeker, Spirit Stance always active

Imperil + Penetrated Armor 3

Void Strike 12581 ~ 18871 versus Haruhis
Dark Strike 12707 ~ 19060 versus Haruhis

Void Strike 12619 ~ 18770 versus Konata
Dark Strike 5750 ~ 8518 versus Konata

1H style, 8255 base damage, level 365, Monday

Void Strike 12583 ~ 18874 versus Haruhis
Dark Strike 13967 ~ 20950 versus Haruhis

Void Strike 12620 ~ 18772 versus Konata
Dark Strike 7202 ~ 10325 versus Konata

Void Strike 12621 ~ 18931 versus Konata (later in same arena)
Dark Strike 6942 ~ 10412 versus Konata (later in same arena)

The Monday dark day bonus is additive, changing regular SG to -11% dark mitigation and dropping Konata to 45% dark mitigation. The day bonus is additive with Imperil, not multiplicative as previously theorized. Unlike Imperil, the day bonus does not cap can increase damage beyond the default. This also explains why Friday void day works to increase all void damage by 5%.

The only multiplicative aspect of elemental mitigation is on the player character, when stacking elemental mitigation among multiple pieces of armor (elemental mitigation is additive within the same armor piece). Spike shield elemental mitigation on the player is not tested as far as I know, but my guess is that it would stack multiplicatively.

Spike shield ailments on monsters are probably additive. I wonder if they can reduce mitigation below zero? I guess tomorrow I'll waste 10 Infusion of Storms, equip Cold Shield, and experiment on Konata. I shouldn't have sold my extra infusions recently.

Konata continued to have the same physical mitigation as regular SG although her randomized damage range is typically missing 1 large "increment" at both the minimum and maximum. This is probably due to rounding shenanigans, and I further presume that monster HP may play a minor role in any such side effect.

This test also proved that fractional attack damage as displayed on power armor is used for calculating damage. I had 8255 attack both before and after the arena but as it progressed my damage values increased by 0~1. That tiny shift even unlocked another 1 large "increment" of random damage, providing a ~100 increase in real average damage, but that's just a fluke of luck.
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post Jan 14 2019, 06:46
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 14 2019, 05:38) *

void day

I tell you again there is no void day. *sigh* Oh, shit, i think i just sighed so hard i cracked a rib. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Btw did anyone ever before encountert a bug after finishing a Fest and starting and arena that looks like this?
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I mean round 1006 of 1000? I mean is this a secret glitch arena or what? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jan 14 2019, 09:57
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 14 2019, 11:46) *

I mean round 1006 of 1000? I mean is this a secret glitch arena or what? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I believe it's a glitch in monsterbation arena round logging, sometimes happen when you play a battle in alt then move to main
sometimes when you leave a battle without monsterbation/tempermonkey activated
sometimes when you change a script to another (i.e you have multiple monsterbation with multiple setting instead of changing them whenever you change playstyle)
and I believe there would be many that trigger it.

unless that number is there without the script, I don't remember what HV look without monsterbation anymore...



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post Jan 14 2019, 10:03
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Yeah, now that you mention it the round number is part of monsterbation. But i didnt do anything of what you have said. I cleared the GF, made a screenshot, two post in the forum and start the arena. Weird. Well everythingelse did work as it should, so in the end it didnt actually matter.
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post Jan 14 2019, 10:16
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 14 2019, 03:03) *

Thank everyone for answering all my questions!
I gave up on trying to get a good shield for now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Is it true that leg force shield >>>> any other kind of shields even if they are Peerless?

if you only consider the block,
a peerless kite shield is equal to force shield with 13% L-range block
a peerless buckler of barrier is equal to force shield with 65% L-range block
so, no, not every leg force shield is better than any other kind of shields. for example the shield on your signature, there's some buckler of barrier that have higher base block than yours.

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I'm still leveling up too fast, but if I don't clear arena on PFUDOR I won't have enough income (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) and I'm still using a very poor, mixed sets of equipments (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) A lot of good power armors are above 350 so I'm kinda in the middle of nowhere so I replaces my gear very slowly.


Please stop whining about leveling up too fast, it's stupid. the higher your level is, the higher your proficiency is, the higher your block is the easier things is even if you wear shit equipments.
You may choose to level up slowly for whatever valid reason you have, nobody going to stop you. But don't whine about it.

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I'll probably start doing PFFEST when I have good gears, for now, I'm spending way too much time on this game (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


you shouldn't play grindfest on 1h if you think you spend too much time on this game, you'll spent like triple of the time you need to clear the 2nd page arena to clear a grindfest.

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I can't find a time to use Featherweight Shards, maybe before SGs? I have exactly 160% mana cost modifier (119.9
interference, 67.9 burden), so I think I should use FS on all of my equipments only when doing PFFEST? And maybe 1 or 2 when fighting with SGs?

There are no exact numerical value of "when to use or not use whatever buff" yet.
the only answer is "when you need it".

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I assume I'll be using potions and maybe elixirs in later rounds of GF, when do you normally start using them (past 700?), or not at all?

elixirs on 1h-pffest? never. even potion usage on pffest hardly ever reaching 2 digit.
why? because my defense is high enough, mainly due to my level.

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I should really just try it first but I'm still waiting for replacements of my mag armors which have quite a bit of level differences.

soulfuse. I wear THREE mag armor since 350, never bother replacing them. nowadays I could clear pffest blindfolded.
and don't bother of doing grindfest if you can't even comfortably clear legendary equip IW on the said difficulty.

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When do shrining trophies become profitable?


anytime you hit a one in a gazilion chance jackpot.

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post Jan 14 2019, 10:22
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After taking a taking a hiatus for over a year (or two) I was interested in coming back but found that I have no idea what I'm doing. From my arena page it looks like I used to be able to clear up to Trio on IWBTH but now I don't even get close so either the game got much harder or I'm playing it wrong. Hell, I can barely clear random encounters on Nintendo difficulty let alone IWBTH Trio.

Any tips would be appreciated. I've included a badly done cut and paste of all my stats and equipment and have included it as an attachment.

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post Jan 14 2019, 10:30
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 14 2019, 15:03) *

Yeah, now that you mention it the round number is part of monsterbation. But i didnt do anything of what you have said. I cleared the GF, made a screenshot, two post in the forum and start the arena. Weird. Well everythingelse did work as it should, so in the end it didnt actually matter.


that would meant that the monsterbation didn't reset the counter after you clear GF for whatever reason.

QUOTE(Amalyne @ Jan 14 2019, 15:22) *

After taking a taking a hiatus for over a year (or two) I was interested in coming back but found that I have no idea what I'm doing. From my arena page it looks like I used to be able to clear up to Trio on IWBTH but now I don't even get close so either the game got much harder or I'm playing it wrong. Hell, I can barely clear random encounters on Nintendo difficulty let alone IWBTH Trio.

Any tips would be appreciated. I've included a badly done cut and paste of all my stats and equipment and have included it as an attachment.

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are you sure it's one year or two? not one decade or two?
as you're using some ancient equipments there.

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post Jan 14 2019, 10:32
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 14 2019, 05:46) *

I mean round 1006 of 1000? I mean is this a secret glitch arena or what? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

most curious. for this to happen, the script would have to fail to exit battle cleanly, and you would have to be using an older version of monsterbation
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post Jan 14 2019, 10:57
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post Jan 14 2019, 11:40
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 14 2019, 09:57) *

Version 1.2.4.0

ah yes. the failsafe deleting logs that should be deleted at end of battle was added in 1.2.4.2
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post Jan 14 2019, 11:59
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 14 2019, 11:46) *
Btw did anyone ever before encountert a bug after finishing a Fest and starting and arena that looks like this?
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I mean round 1006 of 1000? I mean is this a secret glitch arena or what? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Uncle, it's a secret rounds that only can accessed by finishing GF without using SoL... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 14 2019, 16:55
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jan 14 2019, 10:30) *
decade or two?


Whole HV existence is roughly 1 decade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 14 2019, 18:13
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Uncle, it's a secret rounds that only can accessed by finishing GF without using SoL... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Just too bad that i did my first GF without SoL quite some time ago.

I was thinking, until now every time someone would ask about 2H i did advice to play it with shade. But i have to admit, i completly forgot about the existing of feather weight shards. I mean with a bit PM and MM forging together with feather weights this could actually work. Has someone done this before and can confirm the playability of 2H Power armor with feather weights?

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post Jan 14 2019, 22:15
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 14 2019, 18:13) *

Just too bad that i did my first GF without SoL quite some time ago.

I was thinking, until now every time someone would ask about 2H i did advice to play it with shade. But i have to admit, i completly forgot about the existing of feather weight shards. I mean with a bit PM and MM forging together with feather weights this could actually work. Has someone done this before and can confirm the playability of 2H Power armor with feather weights?


I actually use my 1H persona, with 4 plain plate and 1 power, to sometime play 2H just substituting a Leg Etsoc of Slaughter in lieu of the 1H-weapon + shield combination. (and feather shards on armour)

It is quite viable for Arenas (at my level), if you reach a high percentage on Domino Strikes proc probability; according to Wiki, 90% is maximum and I have 87% which means I almost always hit two targets at a time and often three.

I usally use alternatively Shatter Strike in one round, and normal pounding to finish off everyone; then Rending Blow in the next round, again followed by pounding to finish off. Imperil or Weaken only from time to time, when there are monsters with high HP or they resist too much.

This is my build :

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Edit: and this the equip.

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[edit]: resized pics

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post Jan 14 2019, 22:36
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Interesting, so it looks like a gamestyle to be recommended. But whould you say the feather shards are necessary to play 2H Power or do you think with enough PM MM it would be even good without? Btw are you actually playing this on normal? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jan 14 2019, 22:51
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 14 2019, 21:36) *

But whould you say the feather shards are necessary to play 2H Power or do you think with enough PM MM it would be even good without?

with longsword/power, i can clear PFfest without using elixirs when feathered and sometimes need elixirs to clear IWs when unfeathered. the 11.2% boost in evade makes a huge difference, and considering the cost of feathers i would always use them even if i don't "need" need them
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post Jan 14 2019, 22:53
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Time to call upon the fond memories of the Ancients:

Catalysts description say "[...] necessary for upgrading and repairing equipment [...]".
Was there a time when it was right?
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post Jan 14 2019, 22:55
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True, feather weights are cheap enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Catalysts for repairs? Well, at least not that i would remember it.

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post Jan 14 2019, 23:01
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QUOTE(uareader @ Jan 14 2019, 15:53) *

Time to call upon the fond memories of the Ancients:

Catalysts description say "[...] necessary for upgrading and repairing equipment [...]".
Was there a time when it was right?
Checking release notes...
That was added in 0.80 and removed in 0.82.
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post Jan 15 2019, 01:30
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Just for a heads up: I spend 21 feathers (3 hours worth) for every 1H PFFEST I do, and 2 feathers (2 hours worth on the staff) to clear arenas as mage.
Why not using these things that buff you up, while you can literally buy them 15/20c apiece? I don't regret buying a stock of 3000 of them back then. And my stock does go down, mind you.
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