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Swift Strike Lv.4 is a shitty IW anyway.
And tbh 1M for that rapier? I mean okay, its leg and low level. But i still dont see it.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jan 9 2019, 04:52

Swift Strike Lv.4 is a shitty IW anyway.
And tbh 1M for that rapier? I mean okay, its leg and low level. But i still dont see it.

^ 1M it's too much. He can get something better at half of that price or less on auctions with a little bit of patience.

Btw since you guys are talking about rapiers, is there anyone between levels 310-360 that would want this for free? -> Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter Lv. 407. (ADB 70%, Parry 81%).

There are betters, I'm aware of it. But well at least it's free. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

If not I'll probably just finish the random item world that I started on it and then I'll send it to the depths of my inventory.

This post has been edited by Xythy: Jan 9 2019, 05:59

^ 1M it's too much. He can get something better at half of that price or less on auctions with a little bit of patience.

Btw since you guys are talking about rapiers, is there anyone between levels 310-360 that would want this for free? -> Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter Lv. 407. (ADB 70%, Parry 81%).

There are betters, I'm aware of it. But well at least it's free. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

If not I'll probably just finish the random item world that I started on it and then I'll send it to the depths of my inventory.

That's a pretty gopd auctionsble rapier.

^ 1M it's too much. He can get something better at half of that price or less on auctions with a little bit of patience.

Btw since you guys are talking about rapiers, is there anyone between levels 310-360 that would want this for free? -> Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter Lv. 407. (ADB 70%, Parry 81%).

There are betters, I'm aware of it. But well at least it's free. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

If not I'll probably just finish the random item world that I started on it and then I'll send it to the depths of my inventory.

Me!!! I have been dreaming about a decent rapier since the first time I learned about Penetrated Armor. Gonna soul-fuse it!

This post has been edited by mouisaac: Jan 9 2019, 05:36

That's a pretty gopd auctionsble rapier.

I could auction it no doubt (of slaughter with more than 65% on all important stats). But people tend to discriminate towards fiery rapiers more than surtr clothes. I prefer to gift it to someone than sell it for cheap. I sold an ethereal one two weeks ago for 2.5 M with worse stats, I doubt this could reach the same and even if it could I'm set on giving it for free. Uncle is right those things are overrated.

Me!!! I have been dreaming about a decent rapier since the first time I learned about Penetrated Armor. Gonna soul-fuse it!

Sent it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

This post has been edited by Xythy: Jan 9 2019, 20:53

Uncle is right those things are overrated.

Why is this strikethrough? I am so confused, do you agree or not. Or did you agree and now you changed your mind. I dont get it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jan 9 2019, 06:05

Why is this strikethrough? I am so confused, do you agree or not. Or did you agree and now you changed your mind. I dont get it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I agree with you, Unlce. Sorry, I tend to strikethrough things that I find a little bit out of place (that was something from another thread and all). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

Sent it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Thank you so much! I have soul-fused it! Gonna finish its IW and start using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I agree with you, Unlce. Sorry, I tend to strikethrough things that I find a little bit out of place (that was something from another thread and all). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

So what? Imo it is important to tell people that they just nothing but overrated. And hey, maybe someone just reads it here and decide dont to waste 10M on a Leg Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I wish someone told me about how overrated they are a few years ago. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Ethereal is for DW and not for 1H. And rapier are better than shortswords and it doesnt matter how many lotteries a certain person does puff up with way too many tickets for a shortsword to prove his point. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

On that 1M rapier, yeah I don't see it either - pretty mediocre stats so even with the low level 1M is a stretch (and the IW actually hurts it because swift strike is really quite terrible). Maybe a year or two ago it might have been able to sell at that price. On your budget I actually would recommend a shortsword - it'll get you through to higher levels where you can either go mage or upgrade to a better rapier at lower prices.

So what? Imo it is important to tell people that they just nothing but overrated.

Ok, Uncle. I edited my post. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Thank you so much! I have soul-fused it! Gonna finish its IW and start using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Good luck~

*fingers crossed for more butcher levels and no more overpower*

I think that I should have reset the potencies of that thing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

This post has been edited by Xythy: Jan 9 2019, 06:28

Which one is best for my Elemental Strike, i have Ethereal Rapier.
If i dont have that Elemental Strike,should i reforge until have it?
(include b5+f4,that mean cost so many Credits )
I only play Arena.

Thanks!

Which one is best for my Elemental Strike, i have Ethereal Rapier.
If i dont have that Elemental Strike,should i reforge until have it?
(include b5+f4,that mean cost so many Credits )
I only play Arena.

Thanks!

Yeah, and besides that ethereal isnt good, it can also just fuck you up with the IW. *sigh* Let us be honest, in the end you will be happy with whatever you get after your 70th or 80 reforge just to get B5+F4. So going for a specific element and the perfect IW. Lets just say this could take you a while.

Which one is best for my Elemental Strike, i have Ethereal Rapier.
If i dont have that Elemental Strike,should i reforge until have it?
(include b5+f4,that mean cost so many Credits )
I only play Arena.

Thanks!

b5+f4 it's difficult already. If you want to add on top of it the elemental strike be prepared to spend a lot of credits. In your place I would just pray for cold, dark or holy strike but at the same time I'll wouldn't reforge in case I didn't get any of those. Specially if that is not your endgame rapier.

Oh! You can also use the trick of forging the rapier first and then leave it at iw9 then use two infusions. Ethereal weapons can be a headache... But well, that's my personal opinion.

Edit: ninja'd (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

This post has been edited by Xythy: Jan 9 2019, 06:44

damn, I missed the giveaway... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
well maybe it's better for other to have it as it provided only a little improvement over my current rapier...

I could auction it no doubt (of slaughter with more than 65% on all important stats). But people tend to discriminate towards fiery rapiers more than surtr cloths. I prefer to gift it to someone than sell it for cheap. I sold an ethereal one two weeks ago for 2.5 M with worse stats, I doubt this could reach the same and even if it could I'm set on giving it for free. Uncle is right those things are overrated.

maybe because wiki said it??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...ed#Melee_Weapon

probably because except 1H, other melee build prefer to reduce burden as much as possible to increase their evade...
but the current meta favor 1H build over other melee for a long time... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

^ the line in wiki refers to melee in general and was written long ago, when there were more lower level players and less 1h meta talk on the forum. Ethereal is useful for lower levels, due to providing void damage without having to IW10 it, I don't know how many people use voidseeker on lower levels, I just didn't know about it.

But when you read something is overrated, it doesn't mean it's any worse, it just provides almost no benefit for having steep price increase. If there are no good alternatives or you don't care about the price, by any means use it.

saying that HS channeling also saves mana for your method is a fallacy, as the main point for your method is getting channeling for HS itself. and if you still insisting to integrate that discount to the calculation, you should put that on the base cost of HS

nope even without spamming imperil, it's still there, 26k turn, ~500/cast (~35% HS bonus), 131 channeling wasted

Hmm, I thought about it some more, but I still think my calculation for Heartseeker channeling itself is correct, and your logic and new calculation is the fallacy. Whatever, let's just set this disagreement aside for now.

I agree and can understand that even without spamming Imperil, the wasted Heartseeker is still there. Although, notice that you did reduce the wastage a little. And notice that we all use different strategies on when to recast Heartseeker. You, me, and Gresnik choose different duration thresholds at which to recast, and hoard/spend our channeling gems differently. Whose method is best? It's hard to say for sure.

So today I thought of something new. There may be a fallacy in the following logic that we previously agreed on: I only utilize 20% of the extra turns from channeled Heartseeker (+10% of base Heartseeker) --> I wasted 80% of the extra turns from channeled Heartseeker (40% of base Heartseeker)

The error in logic is the --> symbol. The first condition, which you experience, does NOT imply the second condition. I will try to explain but it's hard to understand, maybe you'll disagree with me and that's okay.

Imagine that Tenboro got mad at you, and punished you so your base Heartseeker duration became 300. Or 200, or whatever. Does this mean you'll just let Heartseeker run out? No, you will adjust and recast Heartseeker earlier as necessary. I can't say exactly when, but you probably won't recast at the very end of the duration either. Maybe you would on average recast Heartseeker at +10% of the new base duration.

Next imagine that Tenboro loves you, and increased your Heartseeker duration to 1000 turns, or infinite. Would you still recast Heartseeker after ~474 turns? No, you should use your gift. I can't be sure when you'd recast, but maybe after 900~1100 turns.

The point is that it doesn't matter much that you only utilize +10% extra turns from channeled Heartseeker. The base length of your Heartseeker governs your play, and that's an unrelated number. If the base length of your Heartseeker is changed by Tenboro, you should adjust and recast Heartseeker accordingly. And when the length of your Heartseeker is increased by 50% from successful channeling, for that instance it's the same as if Tenboro gave you 50% more Heartseeker duration.

I'm suggesting that even you may benefit from +50% Heartseeker duration and get almost +50% mana savings, even if it doesn't look that way. And it doesn't matter much if you play like yourself, or me, or Greshnik, as long as we stay consistent to our recasting and management strategy.

Yeah, and besides that ethereal isnt good, it can also just fuck you up with the IW. *sigh* Let us be honest, in the end you will be happy with whatever you get after your 70th or 80 reforge just to get B5+F4. So going for a specific element and the perfect IW. Lets just say this could take you a while.

b5+f4 it's difficult already. If you want to add on top of it the elemental strike be prepared to spend a lot of credits. In your place I would just pray for cold, dark or holy strike but at the same time I'll wouldn't reforge in case I didn't get any of those. Specially if that is not your endgame rapier.

Oh! You can also use the trick of forging the rapier first and then leave it at iw9 then use two infusions. Ethereal weapons can be a headache... But well, that's my personal opinion.

Edit: ninja'd (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Thanks for your Respond!

I using Fire Strike now.
Fight with Legendaries cost so many time,so i want use Dark or Holy in finally weapon.

I dont know cold is for?
So Ethereal weapon is not must have?
(So many advice say it is best,that is why i using it...)
Sorry,i am noob... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by kikikaki: Jan 9 2019, 09:36

I didn't study the Legendary Shocking Rapier ultra carefully, but from what I checked, I believe it's worth 1m. The IW is good, not great, but it's "free" anyway. It's worth 1m at that low level even if having no IW, so he is not asking you to pay for the IW. I would buy it if I were NoliCAIKS because it matches his level and he can use it without soulfuse and resell it later.

My other point, I'm not one of the people who hypes up 1H even though I currently use it. 1H shines around level 200~250~350 but DW is very good below level 200, and DW also starts becoming good again above level 300~350. There are a number of strong DW players around.

Which one is best for my Elemental Strike, i have Ethereal Rapier.
If i dont have that Elemental Strike,should i reforge until have it?
(include b5+f4,that mean cost so many Credits )
I only play Arena.

The basic rule is, try not to spend too much more on IW than you spent to buy the rapier itself. If it's the 20k magnificent ethereal rapier you bought from my shop, you should only give it a cheap IW and accept some imperfection.

Usually it is not worth it to reforge for best element on an ethereal rapier, even an amazing legendary one. The credits cost is too high. However, on the best magnificent ethereal rapier, it is worth it to reforge for best element. Because there is a trick to reforge the final element on a magnificent ethereal weapon for cheap (salvage it and buy back from bazaar). This trick only works well on magnificent. It doesn't help much on legendary, and only wastes money on peerless.

Specially if that is not your endgame rapier.

Sir, such a thing doesn't exist.