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post Jan 5 2019, 23:20
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jan 5 2019, 22:02) *

¯\(ツ)/¯ English is not my first language and I wouldn't say that I'm proficient in it either, particularly if we talk about tenses and such. but what I know is your wording makes me think that you still need the said spell.

Hey, uncle has never even learned english from school or a book. Well, except those two years specialized english aka talking about circuits and such. So i have most of the time no idea what i am actually talking about. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 5 2019, 22:02) *

Well you have Gold Star which is +50% MP/SP regeneration more than me, also you have much higher level which should be increasing your MP and SP supply.

I guess.

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 5 2019, 22:02) *

Did you buy Resplendent Regeneration and Effluent Ether?

Nope and i wont buy them in the near future. Token III and DD II have a much higher priority.

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 5 2019, 22:02) *

However primarily the most helpful thing is high Attack damage and lots of Demon Duality.

11372 with DD I. But i am sure as sure you can beat DwD faster as i could even dream of. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 5 2019, 22:02) *

Also Capacitor would help.

Well i have this for making mages jealous. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) https://hentaiverse.org/equip/166231016/c957ddc7c5

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 5 2019, 22:02) *

I don't think Innate Arcana doesn't helps much with mana conservation, just a little. I always cast my buffs manually so I can get Channeling for Heartseeker and Regen. I only use my Innate Arcana after I established my channeled Heartseeker and Regen.


Ehm, how do you decide when in battle you use your IA? You can just slot them outside of battle and when you do they are allways active unless you unslot them but then they do jack shit.

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 5 2019, 22:02) *

Oh, I still use both Haste (always) and Shadow Veil (sometimes). I think the Haste is helping tremendously with mana conservation. Haste should increase your mana supply by +50%. I also use a buckler which helps a lot but I think it's not the biggest difference between us.

And it would make it much harder to mantain overcharge for my spirit stance and the OFC. Well i just have 122.9 interference. So how big is the difference there? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) But i still cant see how you use less mana than you regenerate when you even use haste and sometimes even the veil? I dont get. This has to be a missunderstanding.
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post Jan 5 2019, 23:34
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 6 2019, 06:02) *

I think the Haste is helping tremendously with mana conservation. Haste should increase your mana supply by +50%. I also use a buckler which helps a lot but I think it's not the biggest difference between us.

How can haste increase mana supply? Both battle regen and restoratives are both based on ticks, aren't they?
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post Jan 5 2019, 23:40
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QUOTE(Paruri @ Jan 5 2019, 22:34) *

How can haste increase mana supply? Both battle regen and restoratives are both based on ticks, aren't they?

I doesnt increase mana supply, but when you need less ticks to clear a round you get of course more time out of your support spells which means you dont have to cast them as often which means you dont have to use as many mana. Or at least it does in theory. Tbh i am not so sure about the practical usage because you have of course to add the mana usage of haste itself and you do also decrease your overall damage with decreasing your counter attacks and by that also makes it harder to substane your overcharge for the spirit stance which can reduce your actual damage output even more.
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post Jan 5 2019, 23:46
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 6 2019, 06:40) *

I doesnt increase mana supply, but when you need less ticks to clear a round you get of course more time out of your support spells which means you dont have to cast them as often which means you dont have to use as many mana. Or at least it does in theory. Tbh i am not so sure about the practical usage because you have of course to add the mana usage of haste itself and you do also decrease your overall damage with decreasing your counter attacks and by that also makes it harder to substane your overcharge for the spirit stance which can reduce your actual damage output even more.

I agree with mana conservation of course. But he said that haste increases mana supply and I wondered haste literally increases mana supply (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 5 2019, 23:48
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I have 90.4 interference, but that only calculates to you using +8.4% more mana than me in 1H style. It's significant but not the main thing. Effluent Ether (+10% MP) and Respendent Regeneration (+50% MP/SP regen) are bigger effects.

The key differences are probably my attack damage (more gems) and use of Haste (effectively increases MP by +50%). Although I use Shadow Veil sometimes, I don't use Spirit Shield (although I use Spark of Life and you don't).

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Ehm, how do you decide when in battle you use your IA? You can just slot them outside of battle and when you do they are allways active unless you unslot them but then they do jack shit.
And it would make it much harder to mantain overcharge for my spirit stance and the OFC. Well i just have 122.9 interference. So how big is the difference there?

You slot the IA skills but when the arena starts you cast them manually to turn off the IA. I have IA4 with Protection, Spark of Life, and Haste slotted. But I almost always cast Protection, Spark, and Haste manually, so my IA4 is mostly useless. I think this mana management strategy is another helping factor.
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post Jan 5 2019, 23:49
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QUOTE(Paruri @ Jan 5 2019, 22:46) *

I agree with mana conservation of course. But he said that haste increases mana supply and I wondered haste literally increases mana supply (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well as i understand it he didnt mean it literaly, but as mana conservation.
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post Jan 5 2019, 23:50
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Hi I have a quick question.
Do you know which area gives token? like chaos and blood token.
I remember few arenas always gives token on their last round but I can't remember them.

+ I'm lv 334 melee, one hand shield melee, not sure how to level up from here. Usually do the arena with hell or nintendo difficulty.
how can I earn more credits?

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post Jan 5 2019, 23:55
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 5 2019, 22:48) *

I have 90.4 interference, but that only calculates to you using +8.4% more mana than me in 1H style. It's significant but not the main thing. Effluent Ether (+10% MP) and Respendent Regeneration (+50% MP/SP regen) are bigger effects.

The key differences are probably my attack damage (more gems) and use of Haste (effectively increases MP by +50%). Although I use Shadow Veil sometimes, I don't use Spirit Shield (although I use Spark of Life and you don't).
You slot the IA skills but when the arena starts you cast them manually to turn off the IA. I have IA4 with Protection, Spark of Life, and Haste slotted. But I almost always cast Protection, Spark, and Haste manually, so my IA4 is mostly useless. I think this mana management strategy is another helping factor.

Hm, so less interference. EE and RR, or at least i understand your post as you having them. No use of SS and IA4. Yeah, that makes for quite some difference between us two. Btw i have just checked and after months i finaly got again a decreasing in mana upkeep for IA. It is now down to 1.43. Yeah. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And now that you mention it i remember that about deactivating IA with casting it. But how do you actual benefit from that? I mean the IA upkeep is overall lower than the mana cost to cast them. So i dont understand why you even do that.

QUOTE(a-f @ Jan 5 2019, 22:50) *

Hi I have a quick question.
Do you know which area gives token? like chaos and blood token.
I remember few arenas always gives token on their last round but I can't remember them.

+ I'm lv 334 melee, one hand shield melee, not sure how to level up from here. Usually do the arena with hell or nintendo difficulty.
how can I earn more credits?

Well, all arenas have the chance to give you tokens as arena clear bonus. The more rounds the higher the chance for a token. And also everything you play in the game every single round, be it arena, iw, re or gf has a very small chance to give you a token drop.

What do you mean by level up from there? Just like you did before. And you can earn more credits my train the drop trainings aka Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, Quartermaster and Archaeologist. Increase your monsterlab by unlucking more slots. Play on a higher difficulty. Get the crystarium perk. And play more rounds overall. For more infos you should ask a bit more specific.

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post Jan 6 2019, 00:01
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QUOTE(a-f @ Jan 5 2019, 22:50) *

Hi I have a quick question.
Do you know which area gives token? like chaos and blood token.
I remember few arenas always gives token on their last round but I can't remember them.

+ I'm lv 334 melee, one hand shield melee, not sure how to level up from here. Usually do the arena with hell or nintendo difficulty.
how can I earn more credits?

More credits? Well, play more. Especially the Schoolgirl arenas are profitable. For leveling up, and getting better equipment drops, you need to increase your difficulty. At your level, random encounters at Pfudor, and probably all arenas as well except schoolgirls. Play as high difficulty as you can.

Tokens drop in all arena's. Not guaranteed, but often.
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post Jan 6 2019, 00:06
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 5 2019, 23:01) *

Tokens drop in all arena's. Not guaranteed, but often.

DwD has a guaranteed drop. Or at least i cant remember clearing a DwD without token. Damned the more i think about it the more i am unsure about this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 6 2019, 00:08
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Can anyone tell me how to use Jenga's hvlist?(https://hvlist.niblseed.com/)
I selected class option and searched but nothing appeared
I want to know each classes' ratio

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post Jan 6 2019, 00:08
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Hardcasting your buff spells (Protection, Spark, etc) is for the purposes of triggering Channeling which is used for free Heartseeker and Regen. Also remember the Channel version lasts 50% longer so it's really an advantage if you receive it by luck.

Remember some high-level players like Basara Nekki doesn't even have Innate Arcana. And I was the same until very recently, because I did not think IA helps much. And after I bought IA4 (all at one time) I am almost never using it because I still prefer to gamble for Channeling.

However after I get two Channelings, I can start to use my IA4 and get some slight MP savings.
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post Jan 6 2019, 00:16
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Hi,

I'm just wondering if there is a database of the lotteries. It took me some time to go through every single page of the weapon lottery just to find exact matchs of today's drawing (there were only 2).

Some interesting things I found (there are so many so I just listed a few that I remember):
There are 6 PHOH exists.
The biggest pot is 2460k, second biggest pot is 1663k, and the smallest pot is 1.9k (weapon lottery).
There is one exquisite estoc in the early lotteries.
The biggest pot in which the prize is no longer available is 817k.
Only 5 pots went over 1000k tickets.
There is no shield in the first 2/3 of the weapon lottery.
There are only 25 force shields in the history of the weapon lottery.

Y'all probably already know these but it's the first time I go through every weapon lottery pages...

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post Jan 6 2019, 00:17
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QUOTE(Paruri @ Jan 5 2019, 23:08) *

Can anyone tell me how to use Jenga's hvlist?(https://hvlist.niblseed.com/)
I selected class option and searched but nothing appeared
I want to know each classes' ratio

Hm, just checked. Yeah, class search doesnt seem to work. Neither for Undead nor for Celestial. *sigh* I can believe i actually say this. But i guess the best is you wait for decondelite to read your post. Because he is the one who takes the whole database over, this could have something to do with the changes.

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 5 2019, 23:08) *

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So just for channeling? I mean i allways cast regen, hope for channeling when no channeling i just fight until enough overcharge to activate stance and cast hearseeker. Most of the time i get channeling at least after casting heartseeker. So you would actually save mana by casting the other spells. Hm. I am using IA now for such a long time i never actually thought about something like that to save mana. For me it was allways enough at least to wait for the save from the stance.
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post Jan 6 2019, 00:21
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QUOTE(Paruri @ Jan 5 2019, 23:08) *

Can anyone tell me how to use Jenga's hvlist?(https://hvlist.niblseed.com/)
I selected class option and searched but nothing appeared
I want to know each classes' ratio


set 'hide stale monsters' to 'no'
select by 'class', order by 'class',
Submit.


QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 5 2019, 23:16) *

Hi,

I'm just wondering if there is a database of the lotteries. It took me some time to go through every single page of the weapon lottery just to find exact matchs of today's drawing (there were only 2).

Some interesting things I found (there are so many so I just listed a few that I remember):
There are 6 PHOH exists.
The biggest pot is 2460k, second biggest pot is 1663k, and the smallest pot is 1.9k (weapon lottery).
There is one exquisite estoc in the early lotteries.
The biggest pot in which the prize is no longer available is 817k.
Only 5 pots went over 1000k tickets.
There is no shield in the first 2/3 of the weapon lottery.
There are only 25 force shields in the history of the weapon lottery.

Y'all probably already know these but it's the first time I go through every weapon lottery pages...


No database. Shields were added recently (last year somewhere? or is it longer ago?) so that's why so little shields. We requested it, we got it.
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post Jan 6 2019, 00:29
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 6 2019, 07:21) *

set 'hide stale monsters' to 'no'
select by 'class', order by 'class',
Submit.

Thanks but I want specific class's data (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jan 6 2019, 00:31
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 5 2019, 23:21) *

set 'hide stale monsters' to 'no'
select by 'class', order by 'class',
Submit.

And this works for you? Because for me the list stays empty everytime i enter a class. Like this for arthropod.

[hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com/?selectby=class...&orderbyb=0
TOTAL COUNT: 0

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post Jan 6 2019, 00:44
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QUOTE(hopkar @ Jan 5 2019, 19:13) *

Is silence/sleep a standalone must have or should I combine it with weaken or other spells and not sacrifice them but spend some credits in Ability boost to get both?

if you can do arenas on IWBTH, you should be able to do PFUDOR TT&T with just weaken or even without it. using silence and sleep is just the maximum reduction on incoming damage you can get: keep all monsters but one asleep by casting sleep on them before it expires and silence the one you're attacking

QUOTE(Paruri @ Jan 5 2019, 23:08) *

Can anyone tell me how to use Jenga's hvlist?(https://hvlist.niblseed.com/)
I selected class option and searched but nothing appeared
I want to know each classes' ratio

the database search bundled with crunk juice lets you list all monsters of a certain class, by checking that class, clearing the "last scan" field and leaving all others blank
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post Jan 6 2019, 01:04
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Well you have Gold Star which is +50% MP/SP regeneration more than me, also you have much higher level which should be increasing your MP and SP supply. Did you buy Resplendent Regeneration and Effluent Ether?

What's your mana cost modifier?
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post Jan 6 2019, 01:05
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jan 6 2019, 07:44) *

if you can do arenas on IWBTH, you should be able to do PFUDOR TT&T with just weaken or even without it. using silence and sleep is just the maximum reduction on incoming damage you can get: keep all monsters but one asleep by casting sleep on them before it expires and silence the one you're attacking
the database search bundled with crunk juice lets you list all monsters of a certain class, by checking that class, clearing the "last scan" field and leaving all others blank

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I installed the script but I don't know how to use the fuction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Can you explain in detail?
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