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What does "Void (has no effect on physical mitigation)" mean?
Is it saying void damage is in influenced by PMI or not?

It means that an attack being of the Void element doesnt cancel the fact that a Void attack is either of Physical or Magical nature, and that as such you still can mitigate a Physical Void attack with PMit and a Magical Void attack with MMit.

You really need to understand that Void is an element just like all other elements (Piercing, Slashing, Crushing, Fire, Cold, Wind, Elec, Holy, Dark) and that as such all players and monsters have specific mitigation against Void. Except that this specific mitigation will always be 0% for all players and monsters.

Sorry if this sounds rude or like, lecturing coming from a newbie, but why has this "Ask the experts" form been chosen to lump all questions together in one big thread? (Or rather, several big threads over the years..) Wouldn't it be easier for people to look up info on say, play styles like Mage, 2H, 1H, DW or Niten in a single thread on each style? As opposed to browsing hundreds if not thousands of pages to search for info on the topic you want?

Sorry if this sounds rude or like, lecturing coming from a newbie, but why has this "Ask the experts" form been chosen to lump all questions together in one big thread? (Or rather, several big threads over the years..) Wouldn't it be easier for people to look up info on say, play styles like Mage, 2H, 1H, DW or Niten in a single thread on each style? As opposed to browsing hundreds if not thousands of pages to search for info on the topic you want?

Well sadly there are only two styles currently used in HV, 1H and Mage. And Most infos are in WIKI. So I don't know the reason why the forum's format is like this, most questions can be handled in one thread i think

This post has been edited by paruri: Jan 5 2019, 16:12

I see so many people use Juggernaut Lv.5 Holyproof Lv.5.
I know Juggernaut is good.
But Holyproof...I dont know.
Maybe has strong moster use Holy?

How about Capacitor?
Can it save my Draught or Potion?

Sorry if this sounds rude or like, lecturing coming from a newbie, but why has this "Ask the experts" form been chosen to lump all questions together in one big thread? (Or rather, several big threads over the years..) Wouldn't it be easier for people to look up info on say, play styles like Mage, 2H, 1H, DW or Niten in a single thread on each style? As opposed to browsing hundreds if not thousands of pages to search for info on the topic you want?

So you would prefer to have multiple big threads? Yeah, i cant see the benefit of this. Only that some people wouldnt even know where to ask their questions and spaming the forum with quite similiar threads. I mean what? A person has one questions about 1H and one for general soulfusing. So two questions for two threats? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) When one has a questions, they can ask here and they will get an answer. And that is all everyone actually needs.

I see so many people use Juggernaut Lv.5 Holyproof Lv.5.
I know Juggernaut is good.
But Holyproof...I dont know.
Maybe has strong moster use Holy?

Just believe when i tell you Holyproof can sometimes save your as. Well Holy and Fire together.

How about Capacitor?
Can it save my Draught or Potion?

Do you play as mage? Because if you dont play as mage it has absoltly no use for you. No really. You have absolutly no benefit from it if you dont are a mage.

Sorry if this sounds rude or like, lecturing coming from a newbie, but why has this "Ask the experts" form been chosen to lump all questions together in one big thread? (Or rather, several big threads over the years..) Wouldn't it be easier for people to look up info on say, play styles like Mage, 2H, 1H, DW or Niten in a single thread on each style? As opposed to browsing hundreds if not thousands of pages to search for info on the topic you want?

More than 1 thread would be impossible to moderate: "wrong thread", "wrong thread", etc. This works fine, and because we regularly make a fresh new one, you can use 'search' to find what you need.

I see so many people use Juggernaut Lv.5 Holyproof Lv.5.
I know Juggernaut is good.
But Holyproof...I dont know.
Maybe has strong moster use Holy?

How about Capacitor?
Can it save my Draught or Potion?

Basically, Holy is the attack type used by Celestials 2nd MP skill (and the SP skill for those who chose it to be Holy and not Void), which sport the most powerful magical attacks. That being said, actually only Jug5 is important, the rest doesn't matter much.

Capacitor 5 is only a gimmick for ultra rich guys who can sink hundreds of Amnesia Shards only so that they can have slightly more comfort in their MP usage while playing mage. Dunno about you, but for my part I consider that spending millions and millions of credits to save one elixir from time to time is not really a worthwhile "investment".

Capacitor 5 is only a gimmick for ultra rich guys who can sink hundreds of Amnesia Shards only so that they can have slightly more comfort in their MP usage while playing mage. Dunno about you, but for my part I consider that spending millions and millions of credits to save one elixir from time to time is not really a worthwhile "investment".

Agreed - I feel like capacitor is actually inferior to all other IW possibilities.

Agreed - I feel like capacitor is actually inferior to all other IW possibilities.

Oh, so it is not even that usefull for mages?

Oh, so it is not even that usefull for mages?

I could be wrong, but since it increases total mana instead of base mana it doesn't help restoratives, so it's literally just having a larger mana pool.

I could be wrong, but since it increases total mana instead of base mana it doesn't help restoratives, so it's literally just having a larger mana pool.

yeah, and even without cap and using mana-expensive dark spells, I never run out of mana. Okay, sometimes I need an elixir, but not often. Current inventory: over 4000 mana elixirs!

yeah, and even without cap and using mana-expensive dark spells, I never run out of mana. Okay, sometimes I need an elixir, but not often. Current inventory: over 4000 mana elixirs!

Speaking of which, is there a quantity cap on items?

Hm, and i dont even have elixiers put in a slot aka i have never used a single one in my whole life. So who the hell does even use them? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Speaking of which, is there a quantity cap on items?

not that I know of, but there probably is a maximum number that is related to the code

Hi, it's me again!

After I have now a nice new weapon (and I made my promise true) I switched to IWBTH for random encounters and arena. I also made by accident one legendary IW run with this setting - obviously with my old weapon. That was quite a trip. I managed somehow but used a ton of potions. However the rest works fine now. "the trio and the tree" and "end of days" were no big deal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) - to thanks again for the advices! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Now I have another question. sickentide mentioned that

i would wait until you can do so on PFUDOR (this is quite easy if you use silence and sleep)

Against strong, single monster I used weaken and imperil until now ... and invested quit some points in it. I have the fragments so I could change if necessary.

The Question: Is silence/sleep a standalone must have or should I combine it with weaken or other spells and not sacrifice them but spend some credits in Ability boost to get both?
To be honest at first glance it seemed to me that weaken is extremly powerful as it decrease the damage of all attacks by 50%, is rather cheap and has no cooldown (with faster weaken). So even if you have multiple targets or it "fails to connect" you can keep it up pretty easy.

So far my own thoughts. But as I'm aware that I don't really know the details of the game mechanics I'm eager to listen to the opinions of my elders! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Thanks
- hopkar

Just a little comment first. When you can do arena on IWBTH, you should be strong enough for PFUDOR RE. At least i did RE allways one difficulty harder than the rest. With weaken what you allready use no real problem imo.

Actually i never used silence. Never thought i would even need it. For me was weaken allways enough to weaken the monster, btw you did forgot to mention imo the best part of weaken. It prevents those monsters from critical hits and those were allways the attacks i was affraid of. I mean i have read so many people swear to sleep and silence that i have my doubts that it doesnt work, but like i said. Weaken did allways the job for me as i still needed it.

I see so many people use Juggernaut Lv.5 Holyproof Lv.5.
I know Juggernaut is good.
But Holyproof...I dont know.
Maybe has strong moster use Holy?

Because :


my elemental mitigations are :
51.5 % fire
60.0 % cold
48.4 % elec
26.1 % wind
36.0 % holy
19.0 % dark
then notice the total damage based on element.

Against strong, single monster I used weaken and imperil until now ... and invested quit some points in it. I have the fragments so I could change if necessary.

The Question: Is silence/sleep a standalone must have or should I combine it with weaken or other spells and not sacrifice them but spend some credits in Ability boost to get both?
To be honest at first glance it seemed to me that weaken is extremly powerful as it decrease the damage of all attacks by 50%, is rather cheap and has no cooldown (with faster weaken). So even if you have multiple targets or it "fails to connect" you can keep it up pretty easy.

So far my own thoughts. But as I'm aware that I don't really know the details of the game mechanics I'm eager to listen to the opinions of my elders! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Thanks
- hopkar

For now it's ok to use weaken as your defense isn't high enough yet, but nearing lvl 300 and moreover past that, you should gradually stop the dependency and build more innate defense, particularly damage avoidance (block/parry/evade) and maybe HP pool so you won't get one shooted anymore.
In the end you shouldn't have to use any depreciating spell except imperil. So if you also start depending yourself to other depre skill, I guess you steer to the wrong way...

Actually i never used silence. Never thought i would even need it. For me was weaken allways enough to weaken the monster, btw you did forgot to mention imo the best part of weaken. It prevents those monsters from critical hits and those were allways the attacks i was affraid of. I mean i have read so many people swear to sleep and silence that i have my doubts that it doesnt work, but like i said. Weaken did allways the job for me as i still needed it.

how did you still need weaken?
I didn't even use that anymore on my puny mage setup for arena and TT&T...

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jan 5 2019, 20:39

Yeah, as melee weaken and imperil are really the two deprecating spells needed. Other things are OK but not necessary.

Alright! Thanks!

Just a little comment first. When you can do arena on IWBTH, you should be strong enough for PFUDOR RE. At least i did RE allways one difficulty harder than the rest. With weaken what you allready use no real problem imo.

Then maybe I do something wrong, because for me it seems that RE is more difficult then arena. The reason is that the arena always starts with just a handful monster so I can start my buff orgy (Protect, Shadow Veil, Regen, Spark of Life, and so on). If I face like 10 Monsters in RE I don't really have the time for that. So I keep it to the (in my opinion) necessary. Means I fight a hord without all buffs and without overcharge.