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Dec 27 2018, 20:19
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mutsdhr
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 27 2018, 10:51)  Depend on element but if you're talking holy I believe it's hallowed oak of heimdall.
and I don't know how deep you're in this mage hell, but it's all in or die trying here, a half-assed try out wouldn't give you something favorable.
unfortunately non-forged fully iw-ed set wouldn't be able to comfortably stand in front of most late pf arena, and believe me the non sg one are worse than the sg one. at the very least forge your proficiency to close to the already established necessary proficiency per advanced advice wiki... oh wait, holy is 1.0.. derp...
charged is close to a necessity if you wants to play GF, it's the haste for 1h around lvl 250-350 - useful for survivability but might be dismiss-able if you feel confident with your defense already - in mage case, if you're confident with your cannon size already.
QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 27 2018, 11:23)  Holy is very expensive to get it going right. If you must, first step is to find a staff. But if you can find a good dark staff, or wind, or elec, choose that and sell your heimdalls - that's my advice in case you are not super-rich.
Okay, so find a staff. Then, play imperil style, those shoes are enough for that. But they need to be fully forged on prof. Then with imperil, you will find you need charged gear. Get that.
If you go dark, I have some nice imperil-play gear for sale, basically for free + forge costs. If anything, that would give you an idea of how much credits you would need to get imperil-style going. Non-imperil is far more expensive.
QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 27 2018, 11:26)  My piece of advice: don't "try out" to go mage. Do it seriously and invest a lot in forging. Be sure about what to do before you do it.
Jug25 and Forge 10 everything (20 for the staff's MDB) is the very, very minimum to do something. Forget anything that isn't charged for now, unless it's Peerless. Get yourself either a charged cotton cap or charged cotton shoes. And use a second charged cotton somewhere else (I'd suggest gloves or pants) until you have very heavily forged your staff's and your cap/shoes proficiency.
Thx for all that Info.. can work with that ! If i go for the hallowed oak staff of heimdall what would be the perfect IW for it ?
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Dec 27 2018, 22:49
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(mutsdhr @ Dec 27 2018, 18:19)  If i go for the hallowed oak staff of heimdall what would be the perfect IW for it ? A wise man said one day "P5S4 or GTFO". But obtaining that is very, very expensive. Assuming you can't afford that, let's say that P5 is mandatory, and then a combination of Spell-Weaver and Archmage.
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Dec 28 2018, 06:29
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mutsdhr
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 27 2018, 23:49)  A wise man said one day "P5S4 or GTFO". But obtaining that is very, very expensive. Assuming you can't afford that, let's say that P5 is mandatory, and then a combination of Spell-Weaver and Archmage.
Woha.. that sounds like a depressing long IW-grind !^^ But at least i know now what would be optimal ! Thx for the Info !
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Dec 29 2018, 04:47
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KamuiSeph
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'll ask away anyway. So, I remember like 8-9 years back when I used to run H@H I'd get 3-4 hath per day. I'm getting 72 hath per day now (and I swear it's going up bit by bit every day, it was at 60 not that long ago). Is this just hath inflation? I honestly don't remember how many credits 1 hath was worth back then.
Also, could it be due to the golden star/cookies somehow? I don't think it affects H@H gains but, the fuck do I know...
This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Dec 29 2018, 04:48
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Dec 29 2018, 08:52
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Dec 29 2018, 03:47)  Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'll ask away anyway. So, I remember like 8-9 years back when I used to run H@H I'd get 3-4 hath per day. I'm getting 72 hath per day now (and I swear it's going up bit by bit every day, it was at 60 not that long ago). Is this just hath inflation? I honestly don't remember how many credits 1 hath was worth back then.
Also, could it be due to the golden star/cookies somehow? I don't think it affects H@H gains but, the fuck do I know...
Well, i cant be absolute sure, because i never did any H@H. But i remember people who did about it in a way that there can be differences in what you get per day and that it at least can increase over time. How this exacly works? No idea. But just from what i have read of people who run it, what you describes sounds about right. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Dec 29 2018, 09:10
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Dec 29 2018, 03:47)  Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'll ask away anyway. So, I remember like 8-9 years back when I used to run H@H I'd get 3-4 hath per day. I'm getting 72 hath per day now (and I swear it's going up bit by bit every day, it was at 60 not that long ago). Is this just hath inflation? I honestly don't remember how many credits 1 hath was worth back then.
Also, could it be due to the golden star/cookies somehow? I don't think it affects H@H gains but, the fuck do I know...
Your gold star and cookies give you hath every day., 1 each iirc. And h@h earnings depends on the size of the archive on your drive. When it builds up towards full use you get more and more harh
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Dec 29 2018, 10:42
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Dec 29 2018, 02:47)  -snip- There is a slow but steady inflation on hath simply because there are cookies, awards and H@H clients are more and more powerful.
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Dec 29 2018, 16:05
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Dec 29 2018, 04:47)  Is this just hath inflation? I honestly don't remember how many credits 1 hath was worth back then.
It used to be ~10k and possibly more so yes, don't expect it to grow (except temporary spikes after perk updates)
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Dec 31 2018, 06:23
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GloomyB
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While reading older posts to became more knowledgeable about HV I learned that one can sell Energy drink to some other players for 60000c. As I'm low on credits because of loving galleries too much and have couple of such items so now possible 120k would be very appreciated by me. Is this price still active and can you point out some buyers?
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Dec 31 2018, 06:41
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tox01
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(GloomyB @ Dec 31 2018, 06:23)  While reading older posts to became more knowledgeable about HV I learned that one can sell Energy drink to some other players for 60000c. As I'm low on credits because of loving galleries too much and have couple of such items so now possible 120k would be very appreciated by me. Is this price still active and can you point out some buyers?
It's around 100k now. Please check WTB and choose the buyer (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 31 2018, 07:00
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RibbonsCan
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QUOTE(GloomyB @ Dec 30 2018, 20:23)  While reading older posts to became more knowledgeable about HV I learned that one can sell Energy drink to some other players for 60000c. As I'm low on credits because of loving galleries too much and have couple of such items so now possible 120k would be very appreciated by me. Is this price still active and can you point out some buyers?
In addition to the above, I suggest buying gallery points with credits, as you can use those instead of credits for downloads and they are cheaper. Also sign up for lottery so you ca get a award of 1 hath a day you can sell for 4k credits. Or save for Hath perks.
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Dec 31 2018, 07:07
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RibbonsCan
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Dec 30 2018, 20:59)  I need more advice regarding this one... which one I should use and which one I should sell... Legendary Jade Force Shield of WardingLegendary Cobalt Force Shield of Wardingif I sell the forged one, can I recoup the forging cost??? You can recoup, but your forged shield is Strength Dex and Endurance. I suggest just using the forged and not forging further until you find a 85%+ SDE then salvage or sell your shield to get mats for new shield. You only really need 60% block chance in your stat screen to do arenas comfortably.
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Dec 31 2018, 10:11
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GloomyB
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Dec 31 2018, 08:00)  Also sign up for lottery so you ca get a award of 1 hath a day you can sell for 4k credits. Or save for Hath perks.
Oh, that's something I didn't knew. Is it about HV weapon and armor lottery? But I purchazed tickets there and no haths came?
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Dec 31 2018, 11:02
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,571
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(GloomyB @ Dec 31 2018, 08:11)  Oh, that's something I didn't knew. Is it about HV weapon and armor lottery? But I purchazed tickets there and no haths came?
No, he's talking about the Yuletide lottery: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=222446Registering in it will grant you a cookie, which brings 1 Hath every Dawn of the day.
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Dec 31 2018, 13:51
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Fudo Masamune
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Dec 31 2018, 11:59)  I need more advice regarding this one... which one I should use and which one I should sell... Legendary Jade Force Shield of WardingLegendary Cobalt Force Shield of Wardingif I sell the forged one, can I recoup the forging cost??? You could always calculate the forge cost and add it to your minimum expectation for the equip (if you have any) then put it as a minimum bid. or ask the auctioneer to add info on the forging cost - super usually add (forged x) for forged equip, don't know if he would (or able to) add extra info on the money spent to forge the said equip. This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Dec 31 2018, 13:55
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Dec 31 2018, 15:01
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Greshnik
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 31 2018, 00:08)  "Sell the forged one"
QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 31 2018, 03:18)  "Use the forged one"
QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Dec 31 2018, 12:07)  "Use the forged one"
QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 31 2018, 18:51)  "Sell the forged one"
thanks for your advice... hmm... 2 votes for the forged one, 2 votes against the forged one huh... anyone want to add more??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) or is there any script that simulate the forge??? I would like to compare the block stats of both shield when forged 33 times... I already compared the unforged base and the Lv. scaled one... but I need more info/advice before I can decide which one to use... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 31 2018, 15:29
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Dec 31 2018, 14:01)  anyone want to add more??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Well, if i may, i will. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Salage the forged one. And use the other. From 38 to 81 is imo just too much improvement not to use the higher block one, even when it means to switch SDA for SDE. I mean i did quite a similiar change once and i never regret it. Even when i of course did switch my SDA for a higher block SDE later on. And of course i did allways salvage my old gear. And no, that it isnt soulbound dont mean shit imo. It is not as if you would that much credits just for those few upgrades anyway and the only person who would in the end actually benefit is the person who will buy the stuff from you need to forge your new shield.
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Dec 31 2018, 16:11
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Dec 31 2018, 15:01)  2 votes for the forged one, 2 votes against the forged one huh... anyone want to add more??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) They're rouphly the same, so it depends on your stats (after certain thresholds you get lesser effects, for example at 60% total block you get ~60% effective block, but at 70% you get around ~62%)
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Dec 31 2018, 16:15
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Greshnik
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Uncle is so harsh, just salvage he said... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) well, if the unforged one is SDA, I won't hesitate this much... but this is a SEA one, so the higher block chance is compensated by lower parry... with the forged one my block and parry are 59,1% & 49,3% with the unforged one my block and parry are 49,4% & 47,3%... though its affected by forging, so I am unsure what happen when both has the same lv. of forging... with forged SDE shield  with unforged SEA shield This post has been edited by Greshnik: Dec 31 2018, 16:29
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