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my advice for DEX was for 330 level player.
at that level i played with DEX=0 and there is no problems

now my level > 400, and my DEX = 260 + 40 = 12% parry
still no problems at arenas

add some points for DEX not bad idea if you already have INT and WIS > 900
but if your INT and WIS < 700, spend on DEX... i dunno

it don't have dex bonus like heavy armor....

I did completly forgot about this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

edit : oh btw if we're going to talk about all the aspects, the convenience of not having to bother with casting, monster spell resistance, and so on, is a big plus of PA over imperil.

You're forgetting that PA is only 25% proc chance or on crit hit, affects only one monster at a time, lasts only very few turns. And you need to stack it twice to get the same pmit penalty, without any elemental penalty. So talking about spell resistance is not really an issue compared to PA. However, yes convenience is a thing, but you pay it with a round that lasts much longer, mostly due to counterattacks that deal very little damage, same goes for your first direct hits against the monster you hover.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Dec 12 2018, 13:01

You're forgetting that PA is only 25% proc chance or on crit hit, affects only one monster at a time, lasts only very few turns. And you need to stack it twice to get the same pmit penalty, without any elemental penalty. So talking about spell resistance is not really an issue compared to PA. However, yes convenience is a thing, but you pay it with a round that lasts much longer, mostly due to counterattacks that deal very little damage, same goes for your first direct hits against the monster you hover.

no I'm not.
I just point that regardless it's inferior effect, convenience is still an aspect where PA would be considered superior than imperil style. The same thing if we talk about imperil vs non-imperil mage.
and it's just because you bring absolutism in all aspect that PA is inferior to imperil to the table when I was only talking about damage.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Dec 12 2018, 14:21

And I was talking about overall efficiency just as well. You are the one who decided to bring the conveniency on the table. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

At my low level and deprecating proficiency I can't be sure but I think that Imperil eventually becomes better than PA overall. However you pay for it with mana (which also becomes far less of a problem at high level, now I often have overflow with no draughts and may use Imperil when that happens).

But still consider that PA comes with its own damaging hit, it doesn't waste a turn like Imperil does. If you have enough Demon Duality and are fighting weak monsters, then using Imperil won't improve as much. If your Imperil isn't trained to target multiple monsters, then the free PA and extra hit might be better. I only trained my Faster Imperil to 1 so far because I didn't want to waste mana if fighting just 1 or 2 monsters.

Also since PA does stack (poorly) with Imperil it's still good to have PA.

Peerless has Base drop chance of 0.0001%
all trophies have 0.1% chance for Peerless
so 1000 normal drop has the same change as 1 trophy for Peerless.
does that mean play on highter difficulty is pointless
when i can farm trophies on normal because difficulty doesnt change trophies drop from bosses? fix 10%/100%?

Well, you should better look it that way. Having a chance to get a peerl every 1000 trophies doesnt mean you get one peerl every 1000 trophies. Also there is no garantee this peerl is also actually worth something. I mean lets say you get a Peerl Plate Helmet of Dampening. Well graz, you have just got a drop that is worth around 50k. And let us look at how much money one can make by just playing all arenas on PFUDOR. Just with clear bonuses, credit drops and bazaaring the worthles equipment drops you make around 200k each day. When you now also includes full drop training and the drop perks, you can also include around 2 crystal packs you get each day. And this still includes all those throphies, you could also sell, or i your case maybe shrine. And are you really that much faster while playing on a lower difficulty that it would be really worth it to loose all those credits i allready did talk about? I mean we are also talking about a shit-ton of other stuff you drop more while playing on higher difficulty. Scrolls, elixiers, infusions and so on. Just one drop alone doesnt look like much, but i made multiple M this year with selling draught, potion and elixier alone. And how much M did you made with selling peerls this year? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

well i didnt played for years
got about 500k for one week with
5-10 highst arena each day on normal with 2h longsword
sell equipment (salvaged Crude, Fair and Average for wood leather and metall)
keeped the rest like trophies.
tyed 1h PA on highst difficulty take munch longer need me to focus more than normal
(i playing while watch videos)
i get munch more Exquisites but feel like not worth because the chance of equipment drop didnt increase only quality.
the next problem is to munch exp, i feel like i lvl too fast for tee item i get.

is the Peerless Base drop chance of 0.0001% on Hell or on Peerless?
because on hell its start too drop.

i though only cystal and Quality increase. you say Scrolls, elixiers, infusions and so on increase too?

never said that i would get a peerless every 1000 trophies.
i said that a trophy has 1000 time besser change than a normal drop without bonus and that trophies are easier to get.

base chance of drop 10% and equipment roll 2,5% make it 1/400. look really bad in compare to the fix 10 %
adding 7 kind of items make the chance 7 time more worse get what item wanted

This post has been edited by reigenxd3: Dec 13 2018, 01:51

Well i have 506.485 atm and i still dont imperil them every time. So i am not sure it is even possible for 1H to actually reach a prof when you hit them all the time. But on the other hand i dont really feel like i need to since quite a while now. I guess i just reached someday a point -sorry cant remember at what prof- when imperil hit them at least most of the time, and together with higher crit chance, what also means higher chance for PA, and higher damage it just stoped to be that much important. So, yeah. There is hope. Just give it time. When you level up and upgrade your equipment, you get more damage, more crit chance and of course more Dep Prof. So this will get be better dont worry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Yes. There even are plenty, though I'll admit half of them are not obvious to the average player.
1) Use Imperil in every round you play, at all times. That will certainly skyrocket your depr prof.
2) Invest credits in Assimilator training. IMHO, Assimilator 10/25 is a very good compromise between a good boost in prof factor gains and cost. At the very least, have 5/25.
3) Get the Evil Enchantress hath perk
4) Invest some points in WIS. You need magic accuracy for depr spells. And it'll also give you some MMit at the same time.
5) Use an Aether Shard to increase the success rate of Imperil, but those things do cost a bit of money.

If you do 1-4, you already have a way better success rate thanks to a better magic accuracy and some counter-resist provided by the depr prof factor. And if you add 5 to the lot, your success rate becomes even better than that of mages.

Don't neglect any of the points 1-4, else it will certainly cripple your success rate.

sorry for my late reply and thanks for the advice...
1. I usually only cast imperil on SG round and RE...
reason being it is inconvenient to cast it on every round when the monster are killed fast enough without imperil for me...
2. & 3. I'll try it when I have enough spare fund...
I still saving to upgrade my shield and helmet for now...
4. hmm...
my Wis is 330+15 wtm and usually it stays at lvl+5 with how I increase it...
my magic hit chance is currently at 93.8%...
shoul I increase more???

i get munch more Exquisites but feel like not worth because the chance of equipment drop didnt increase only quality.

That is what the Quartermaster training is there for.

the next problem is to munch exp, i feel like i lvl too fast for tee item i get.

*exasperation sigh* I know, i know. You didnt soulfuse anything and dont plan to do so because it is just not worth it and now you sit there and really dont actually want to get any XP because the game just gets harder and harder because someone -and i dont say any names* really made the balance of the game into something like something like your comment could happen in the first place. Hey, if i could do something about it i would, but i cant.

is the Peerless Base drop chance of 0.0001% on Hell or on Peerless?

To be precise yes and no. Because the drop chance for a Peerl has nothing to do with the difficulty you are playing on. Peerl is not Mag or Leg or any other quality. Every single equipment drop you get, every single one, has the chance to be a Peerl drop.

because on hell its start too drop.

What is? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

i though only cystal and Quality increase. you say Scrolls, elixiers, infusions and so on increase too?

Well, they increase by decreasing lower quality drops iirc. It is not that much. But enough to make an overall difference.

never said that i would get a peerless every 1000 trophies.

It was part of your argumentation why playing on higher difficulties wouldnt be worth it.

i said that a trophy has 1000 time besser change than a normal drop without bonus and that trophies are easier to get.

Besser? Hey, i finaly found one too. Scremaz you owe me a beer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

And for that argument i pointed out that this means nothing when you still have a good chance to get nothing that would be actually worth it.

base chance of drop 10% and equipment roll 2,5% make it 1/400.look really bad

The chance to get a peerl is low no matter what. I only got four of them in all those years and none of them was something i could use myself. So the chance to get a peerl that is actually worth something is even lower and should actually be part of your calculation and also the prices you could sell those trophies should be too. Just take a look at blackjacs WTB.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Dec 13 2018, 02:07

all trophies have 0.1% chance for Peerless

I have my doubts about that chance. By how many people play this game, if 1 in a 1000 shrings received a Peerless, they'd spawn almost daily.
Also, it would make FoS almost worthless (except for the very unlucky), because you'd statistically get more peerless from shrining itself than the guaranteed one for a sum of 10 million.

I have my doubts about that chance.

Now that someone mention it. Yeah. 0.1% is propably a bit too high. But guess what? I cant find any number in the wiki about trophies and their peerl chance. Only this:

However, all types of trophies have the same chance to get a Peerless equipment.

So now i am curious, reigen where did you got that number from? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

How much DEX points should a mage have?
I have around 470 which is probably really bad, should just allocate a good chunk of that into END and AGI?

How much DEX points should a mage have?
I have around 470 which is probably really bad, should just allocate a good chunk of that into END and AGI?

Not sure if it is really bad. But there was a comment about Dex a while ago. Thanks to Fudo Masamune for pointing that out.

You can invest more into Dexterity.

My current one is 22.7% parry chance.

So when a Lvl 483 Mage does say he has 22.7% Parry. And this is second by another expert mage. I would say, when you are around the same parry (lvl 473 should be close enough) you are golden. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

.... like somebody's argument that shortsword+imperil could be comparable damage wise (if not better?) than rapier...

Somebody says that his clear times speak by themselves and that he builds the wiki.
PA will never, ever, be remotely equal to Imperil, in absolutely all the aspects.

And I was talking about overall efficiency just as well. You are the one who decided to bring the conveniency on the table. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

oh come on, I said "damage wise", then you literally said "all aspect" with an "absolute" on it, and now you switch back to "only efficiency" then blame me for mentioning convenience?

Peerless has Base drop chance of 0.0001%
all trophies have 0.1% chance for Peerless
so 1000 normal drop has the same change as 1 trophy for Peerless.
does that mean play on highter difficulty is pointless
when i can farm trophies on normal because difficulty doesnt change trophies drop from bosses? fix 10%/100%?

according to snowflake I shrined 27million worth of trophies so far, only 1 peerless, and is trash nobody except peerless collector would buy... or maybe two, but either way the other would also be trash too as I forgot about it.
that's how the questionable 0.1% chance look.

the next problem is to munch exp, i feel like i lvl too fast for tee item i get.

please don't fear leveling up, it's... just... feels wrong.

i though only cystal and Quality increase. you say Scrolls, elixiers, infusions and so on increase too?

and credit multiplier
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level

1. I usually only cast imperil on SG round and RE...
reason being it is inconvenient to cast it on every round when the monster are killed fast enough without imperil for me...

Just put it on a shortcut somewhere and occasionally click it when you feel like doing it, it don't have to hit or anything, only casting it once to get the exp from that round (especially REs as those have 5x exp multiplier)
after the preliminary grind to make it reach around your level, I believe using it only on the daily SGs arena would keep it equally around your level.
Haven't been grinding it at all since around lvl 400 (or 350?) when it reach my level, and it's on 1:1 with my level so far (and I also do almost daily non-imperil run GF where it didn't grown at all).

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Dec 13 2018, 04:33

blackjac00's shirining record

T8 trophies

Actual peerless rate far lower than 1/1000.

This post has been edited by qr12345: Dec 13 2018, 05:24

blackjac00's shirining record

Actual peerless rate far lower than 1/1000.

More like 1/198765. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

"All trophies have 0.1% chance for Peerless" was from
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls
is it changed?

please don't fear leveling up, it's... just... feels wrong.

20 times more exp but only 3-6 time more chance feel like that the equipment would too fast need to replaced.

Just put it on a shortcut somewhere and occasionally click it when you feel like doing it, it don't have to hit or anything, only casting it once to get the exp from that round (especially REs as those have 5x exp multiplier)
after the preliminary grind to make it reach around your level, I believe using it only on the daily SGs arena would keep it equally around your level.
Haven't been grinding it at all since around lvl 400 (or 350?) when it reach my level, and it's on 1:1 with my level so far (and I also do almost daily non-imperil run GF where it didn't grown at all).

well, if the goal is to get dep prof around my Lv., I already achieve it then...
atm Lv. 326, my dep prof is sitting on 339.042...
but when casting imperil on SG, sometimes I only need to cast once and sometimes I need to cast it twice or three time to connect...
at worst it even need 4-5 times to cast imperil successfully...
my question is, is it normal to happen when my dep prof is over my Lv.???
or because my WIS which is atm only 330+15 with magic hit rate 93.8%???
should I invest more in WIS, because usually I made it arround Lv.+5 point...

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on another topic, which one is better to upgrade my Magnificent Power Helmet of Protection???
currently I thinking between these one...
Legendary Mithril Power Helmet of Balance
Legendary Cobalt Power Helmet of Balance
or should I just change other eq. first and wait for a slaughter one to come???
my current eq. are these...
Main Shield Helmet Armor Gauntlets Leggings Boots
maybe I need to upgrade my shield first if I want to use them atleast till Lv. 400???