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post Dec 2 2018, 21:26
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post Dec 2 2018, 23:37
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As I was trying to confirm how EE works, I think I got a slightly more complete formula compared to the wiki's "Magic Points = (10 + Level + WIS) * MP Tank * effluent_ether".

I think it should be:

Base MP = (10+level+WIS)*EE Bonus (which is 1 without the perk and 1.1 with the perk). This is the amount that potions and draughts apply to.

Total MP = Base MP * (1+ MP Tank + Armor Ability Bonus + Capacitor Bonus)

I think I'm still a bit off (by 2 MP when I plug in my stats) but the above should be better than the current wiki formula.
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post Dec 3 2018, 00:08
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should i forge my peerless phase pants?
one hand: phazons are expensive
other hand: it's peerless and the best of i can get, radiant/charged phase is totaly not my league.
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post Dec 3 2018, 00:13
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Dec 2 2018, 17:08) *

should i forge my peerless phase pants?
one hand: phazons are expensive
other hand: it's peerless and the best of i can get, radiant/charged phase is totaly not my league.


I feel like charged/radiant Niflheim (or even other elements) are not that expensive nowadays. A 95% EDB radiant freyr gloves of mine just sold for 1.5M at Super's auction T.T

That being said, I think it's not a bad idea to forge to 10 until you get something better (especially since your funds probably are more efficiently spent on upgrading other slots).
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post Dec 3 2018, 00:21
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Someone please remind me.

Is there still a requirement to post to help the game in someway.

I can't remember if it still exists.

If it does, what is the requirement?
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post Dec 3 2018, 00:23
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Dec 2 2018, 17:21) *

Someone please remind me.

Is there still a requirement to post to help the game in someway.

I can't remember if it still exists.

If it does, what is the requirement?


It's one post every 30 days for 100% bonus exp.
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post Dec 3 2018, 05:46
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Some questions

1: what's the difference between equip quality(Magnificent、Legendary、Peerless) ,I checked EWiKi but there isn't precise num.

2: what's the difference between all kinds of mage(fire、elec、holy、dark...)

Thanks for answering

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post Dec 3 2018, 06:26
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QUOTE(yuzhan17 @ Dec 3 2018, 03:46) *

Some questions

1: what's the different between equip quality(Magnificent、Legendary、Peerless) ,I checked EWiKi but there isn't precise num.

2: what's the different between all kinds of mage(fire、elec、holy、dark...)

1. Equipment with better quality have higher stats. See Equipment_Ranges

2. The answer could be long so I am just mention some main points.
Elemental (Wind,Elec,Fire,Cold) spells have higher casting speed and less MP consumption.
Holy and Dark spell have higher base damage and can deal DoT damage.
Monster generally have higher resistance for elemental and lower resistance for holy and dark,
but imperil have higher effect for elemental(compared to holy and dark), so elemental mages usually play at imperil style(=cast imperil on all monster).
Holy and dark mages can play without imperil.

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post Dec 3 2018, 08:18
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Dec 2 2018, 23:21) *

Someone please remind me.

Is there still a requirement to post to help the game in someway.

I can't remember if it still exists.

If it does, what is the requirement?


Main requirement: post regularly, or you friends here will be missing you
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post Dec 3 2018, 08:45
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Hi there !

I kinda started playing again after 3 Years or so !

Got an Rapier i dropped & a mid Tier Armor Rdy.. where do i go from here ? Helmet & Gauntlets ? ... read long time ago Some Shilding Plate is nessesary for Festing the Grind ! What would be best ?

Want to get the Chaos Tokis faster... just a few hundred right now per week.. all Hath thingies are Maxed out !

Thx in advance for your advice !
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post Dec 3 2018, 09:15
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QUOTE(yuzhan17 @ Dec 3 2018, 04:46) *

2: what's the difference between all kinds of mage(fire、elec、holy、dark...)


Price of gear as well: holy is ridiculous expensive but is in the end the fastest.
Dark non-imperil play (radiants) is very expensive to get going. Dark imperil-play (full charged) is actually quite good as well.
Best imperil play is Wind or Elec. Full charges is king. But will start working good with far less optimal gear.
Cold, i've played cold until 500. Works very good for imperil, just a bit slower in end-state than Wind/Elec/Dark. Fire, nobody likes fire (but don't tell him to his face). A bit slower than cold, but very similar.

QUOTE(mutsdhr @ Dec 3 2018, 07:45) *

Hi there !

I kinda started playing again after 3 Years or so !

Got an Rapier i dropped & a mid Tier Armor Rdy.. where do i go from here ? Helmet & Gauntlets ? ... read long time ago Some Shilding Plate is nessesary for Festing the Grind ! What would be best ?

Want to get the Chaos Tokis faster... just a few hundred right now per week.. all Hath thingies are Maxed out !

Thx in advance for your advice !

at your level you don't need shielding plate, just a SDE 80%+ block force shield. That's all the defence you need for Fest. Your rapier and armor are perfect (or close enough). For Festing the Grind, just add more Slaughters to speed up things.

Chaos tokens, yeah those are nice. Playing in lottery is a very small chance of getting them. Grindfest with TokenIII is much more effective. Most rich players switch to mage just to speed up the grinding in PFUDOR-fest. But a good 1h build will work, just a bit slower. If you want to switch to mage, I have some nice full forged gear for sale (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Dec 3 2018, 11:26
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At what percentage for the gift aspect for monsters should I stop at since they cost more and more chaos tokens with each upgrade?

Also, which stats should I definitely upgrade to max or a certain level so that my spending is cost-effective? I remember how someone said not to upgrade everything and just focus on several specific ones.

Lastly, at what level should I stop my monsters at, since it takes quite a few crystals to level up so many monsters? The wiki mentioned that the monsters start giving high-grade materials around somewhere in the 500s. Should I just level them up to where I no longer get low-grade materials, since there doesn't seem to really be a market for them?
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post Dec 3 2018, 12:04
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Dec 3 2018, 10:26) *

At what percentage for the gift aspect for monsters should I stop at since they cost more and more chaos tokens with each upgrade?


Imo, right now. And start unlock more monsterslots. In the end the bring you more. But if you still really want to give them some, one or two level of Scavenging cant hurt.

QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Dec 3 2018, 10:26) *

Also, which stats should I definitely upgrade to max or a certain level so that my spending is cost-effective? I remember how someone said not to upgrade everything and just focus on several specific ones.

Yeah, that was a stupid suggestion. Just increase everything, focus on lets say Str doesnt bring you anything, it doesnt make your monster actually stronger, but it cost quite a bit to bring them up to a decent PL. And PL is in the end was matters.

QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Dec 3 2018, 10:26) *

Lastly, at what level should I stop my monsters at, since it takes quite a few crystals to level up so many monsters? The wiki mentioned that the monsters start giving high-grade materials around somewhere in the 500s. Should I just level them up to where I no longer get low-grade materials, since there doesn't seem to really be a market for them?

Well, imo there are only a few PL that actually matter. The first would be 250, when they start to eat edibles, imo it can be good to bring a few of them up there, so you dont have to feed a whole army just with chow, even when i personaly think when a monster want edibles, it should be able to bring at least a few HG over the year. Aka above PL 500, the second PL that matters, when they start to have the chance to bring HG materials. But even a whole army of PL 549 dont actually bring you that much HG mats. The next PL would be above 750. For some people it is important that they stop bring LG mat above 750, but imo the different between LG and MG is quite low today when it comes to prices and even around 500 LG is allready quite rare. So personally i think it is much more important because they have of course a higher chance to bring HG and because they start to eat Cuisine. And yes, i know monster food is quite cheap, but i still like it to spread what they eat so it is much easier to cover their needs just by selfdrops. The last PL that imo does actually matter would be around 1250. That would be around the PL they actually can even appear to high level player. Of course higher HG mat outcome but imo allready mostly for showing off, just like everything even higher. Dont expect them to ever pay off the crystals you put into them. Does this help? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Dec 3 2018, 12:13
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Dec 3 2018, 02:04) *

Imo, right now. And start unlock more monsterslots. In the end the bring you more. But if you still really want to give them some, one or two level of Scavenging cant hurt.
Yeah, that was a stupid suggestion. Just increase everything, focus on lets say Str doesnt bring you anything, it doesnt make your monster actually stronger, but it cost quite a bit to bring them up to a decent PL. And PL is in the end was matters.
Well, imo there are only a few PL that actually matter. The first would be 250, when they start to eat edibles, imo it can be good to bring a few of them up there, so you dont have to feed a whole army just with chow, even when i personaly think when a monster want edibles, it should be able to bring at least a few HG over the year. Aka above PL 500, the second PL that matters, when they start to have the chance to bring HG materials. But even a whole army of PL 549 dont actually bring you that much HG mats. The next PL would be above 750. For some people it is important that they stop bring LG mat above 750, but imo the different between LG and MG is quite low today when it comes to prices and even around 500 LG is allready quite rare. So personally i think it is much more important because they have of course a higher chance to bring HG and because they start to eat Cuisine. And yes, i know monster food is quite cheap, but i still like it to spread what they eat so it is much easier to cover their needs just by selfdrops. The last PL that imo does actually matter would be around 1250. That would be around the PL they actually can even appear to high level player. Of course higher HG mat outcome but imo allready mostly for showing off, just like everything even higher. Dont expect them to ever pay off the crystals you put into them. Does this help? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


This helps a lot for my thinking and where to take my monsters next. Thank you for the advice.
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post Dec 3 2018, 12:19
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Dec 3 2018, 11:13) *

This helps a lot for my thinking and where to take my monsters next. Thank you for the advice.

You are welcome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Dec 3 2018, 12:27
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all mats are sellable, which i always do
low-grades @50-75
mid leather @75-100
mid metals @225-275
mid cloth & wood @400-450
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post Dec 3 2018, 15:15
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do i get more money for dong higher dif.?
or is it better do the lowest and get small boss items faster?
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post Dec 3 2018, 15:27
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do i get more money for dong higher dif.?

Yes, you do. The higher the difficulty, the higher the credits multiplicator.

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or is it better do the lowest and get small boss items faster?

Hm, maybe for the SG arenas if you wouldnt do them otherwhise, but when you mean with small boss items something like Manbearpig tail and such. No, this is imo not worth it.
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post Dec 3 2018, 15:57
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 3 2018, 10:15) *

at your level you don't need shielding plate, just a SDE 80%+ block force shield. That's all the defence you need for Fest. Your rapier and armor are perfect (or close enough). For Festing the Grind, just add more Slaughters to speed up things.

Chaos tokens, yeah those are nice. Playing in lottery is a very small chance of getting them. Grindfest with TokenIII is much more effective. Most rich players switch to mage just to speed up the grinding in PFUDOR-fest. But a good 1h build will work, just a bit slower. If you want to switch to mage, I have some nice full forged gear for sale (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Thx for the fast reply.. do you mean Base Block for the Shild ?

80.9% physical mitigation
74.6% magical mitigation
3.7% evade chance
67.2% block chance
66.3% parry chance
20.7 % resist chance

Thats all i get ..even if it looks better with Feather´s & a Holy strike from Infusions.. but have Mags in my Setup after 700 rounds in PFfest it gets ugly ^^ My Shield is super old but ok i think... dunno tho .. maybe getting a better one would be best ? 60% or so says the Script Equip Comparsion thingie !?!

Hrhr.. about Mage ...well just need the starter kit rdy first ^^ Dont have enough bindings to max out more that a Staff & one Armor & these i would need to buy first sooo ...maybe later ^^
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post Dec 3 2018, 18:59
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I have these loot related training and perks now:
Scavenger 50/50
Luck of the Draw 22/25
Quartermaster 16/20
Archaeologist 10/10
Crystarium IV
Tokenizer II

I am doing all arenas with 1kc clear bonus and around 750 rounds GF a day.
What loot training/perk should I go for next?
I am think about Tokenizer III, or it is just a problem of preference?

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