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post Nov 28 2018, 19:13
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Nov 28 2018, 17:49) *

From the bottom of the same wiki page; "This page was last modified on 1 April 2018, at 12:30."

True. But that doesnt mean anyone ever checked this page for outdated information.
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post Nov 28 2018, 19:31
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A stupid question here but can I block monsters' attacks if I use armors with "Shielding" prefix but without using a shield? (Such as 2H Heavy armor)
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post Nov 28 2018, 19:37
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QUOTE(jw451 @ Nov 28 2018, 17:43) *

my question is
how do one hand shield melee characters fight?
do they fight with spirit stance on?
but if i use Orbital skill spirit stance goes byebye because it cost so much roundthingies...

also
im fighting on nintendo difficulty x10
i thought onehand shielders could run 20x
but seems if total mobs are like above 5 i get killed
any tips??


you use those for OFC and stay on spirit stance when waiting for it's cooldown (50 is a looong cooldown, enough to clear 1-2 rounds of 7+ enemies)

any style could play on PF (20x), it's just that 1h could do it earlier than other style, because it's having more reliable damage avoidance (parry, block, and the possibility of stunning enemy with counter, even evade and resist if you use light armors).
By earlier doesn't means 1h could always do PF, around level 300 is where I believe the general point where everyone could play PF using 1h consistently on any battle except clearing grindfest, earlier if you could obtain decent equipment.

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i have never heard nor noticed a 50% regeneration bonus.


tbh I never noticed the difference between before and after buying RR.

QUOTE(Xythy @ Nov 28 2018, 23:49) *

From the bottom of the same wiki page; "This page was last modified on 1 April 2018, at 12:30."

At least it's from this year, but I would like a confirmation too. c:


just because it's last modified yesterday (for example) doesn't means it doesn't miss any changes happened between when the information put up there until yesterday. Those +50% regen information already there since 2013, unchanged.
and this is the HV update at the day that information put up there for the first time : https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=128181

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A stupid question here but can I block monsters' attacks if I use armors with "Shielding" prefix but without using a shield? (Such as 2H Heavy armor)


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you just can't counter if you're not on 1h as counter is exclusive to 1h fighting style (like offhand strike for dw and domino strike for 2h)

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post Nov 28 2018, 19:57
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 28 2018, 11:13) *

True. But that doesnt mean anyone ever checked this page for outdated information.



QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Nov 28 2018, 11:37) *

just because it's last modified yesterday (for example) doesn't means it doesn't miss any changes happened between when the information put up there until yesterday. Those +50% regen information already there since 2013, unchanged.
and this is the HV update at the day that information put up there for the first time : https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=128181


That's why I said "but I would like a confirmation too".

On the other hand I think it's very likely that you get that bonus.

If we follow the wiki to calc spirit regen for example; Every point invested in any attribute = +1/600.

My total points are 3716, so my spirit regen would be +6.2 spirit regen per tick. 6.2 + 50% = 9.3. My stat page shows +10. There is a chance that I failed at some point or I'm not factoring something else so, I'm going to say it again "I would like a confirmation". I'm not saying that I'm correct, just that I think that the bonus is there.
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post Nov 28 2018, 20:12
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Nov 28 2018, 18:57) *

My total points are 3716, so my spirit regen would be +6.2 spirit regen per tick. 6.2 + 50% = 9.3. My stat page shows +10. There is a chance that I failed at some point or I'm not factoring something else so, I'm going to say it again "I would like a confirmation". I'm not saying that I'm correct, just that I think that the bonus is there.

Hm, let me look at mine. So lets see, 5332 in total should make 8,8 +4,4 = 13,2. And my stat page tell me i have +14. Hm, maybe there really is a 50% bonus and the the regeneration is just allways rounded up? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 28 2018, 20:21
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Nov 28 2018, 19:37) *

tbh I never noticed the difference between before and after buying RR.


Because regeneration in general is rather small, so as mage with SS you hardly see it effects, but some 1H players with 3 autocast spells can easily notice it as positive-negative mana surplus

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post Nov 28 2018, 20:26
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 28 2018, 12:12) *

Hm, let me look at mine. So lets see, 5332 in total should make 8,8 +4,4 = 13,2. And my stat page tell me i have +14. Hm, maybe there really is a 50% bonus and the the regeneration is just allways rounded up? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I think the same. But I guess the only way to be sure is that a higher-up confirms it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Nov 28 2018, 20:44
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Nov 28 2018, 19:26) *

I think the same. But I guess the only way to be sure is that a higher-up confirms it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

No, it isnt. All we actually need is someone without a star to calculare the same. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 28 2018, 20:47
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 28 2018, 12:44) *

No, it isnt. All we actually need is someone without a star to calculare the same. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


And without RR. :/
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post Nov 28 2018, 20:49
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Nov 28 2018, 19:47) *

And without RR. :/

Who the hell does even have RR? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Because i sure as sure dont have it.
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post Nov 28 2018, 20:54
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Hehe~ Well, Fudo Masamune said he has it (Post #6188). Btw, if GS truly gives that bonus I would want to know if it's exactly the same as RR bonus, and if they stack, too (and "how" if that is the case). Too many questions...
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post Nov 28 2018, 23:12
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things to buy
with 500hath
in hath perk
recommend plz~~
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post Nov 28 2018, 23:18
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QUOTE(gombani @ Nov 28 2018, 22:12) *

things to buy
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recommend plz~~

500 Hath? I would say Crystarium II.
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post Nov 28 2018, 23:21
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4868 / 600 = 8.1133333333333333333333333333333
8.11 * 1.5 = 12.165
+13 spirit regen per tick

as you could see, no star, and yes I have RR.

now to check how GS and RR regen bonus works together, you could buy me a GS and I'll tell you if it's turned into 18.2475 or 16.226666 or if it didn't change at all. pm me for the address (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Nov 28 2018, 23:35
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Nov 28 2018, 15:21) *

4868 / 600 = 8.1133333333333333333333333333333
8.11 * 1.5 = 12.165
+13 spirit regen per tick

as you could see, no star, and yes I have RR.

now to check how GS and RR regen bonus works together, you could buy me a GS and I'll tell you if it's turned into 18.2475 or 16.226666 or if it didn't change at all. pm me for the address (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


You heard it, Uncle? I'll leave this to you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Nov 28 2018, 23:55
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Nov 28 2018, 22:35) *

You heard it, Uncle? I'll leave this to you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Why me? What i have to do with that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 29 2018, 00:22
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 28 2018, 15:55) *

Why me? What i have to do with that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Mm... B-because you are rich and I'm poor? Because I just wanted to endorse the problem to someone else? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 29 2018, 00:43
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 28 2018, 16:44) *

No, it isnt. All we actually need is someone without a star to calculare the same. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(Xythy @ Nov 28 2018, 16:47) *

And without RR. :/


5527 / 600 = 9,2116666....

+10 spirit regen per tick

No RR and ....... no GS. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 29 2018, 00:58
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 28 2018, 16:43) *

5527 / 600 = 9,2116666....

+10 spirit regen per tick

No RR and ....... no GS. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Thanks, Basara Nekki. With this the only thing left to do is for Uncle to buy that GS. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

*runs away*

Edit: removed a typo.

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post Nov 29 2018, 04:11
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so few questions
when i see people selling stuff
is there a script that you can see ADB% PARRY % block% ETC
if so please let me know

and is there a script that you can use
to salvage items faster....
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