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Jan 13 2018, 00:40
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Uncle Stu
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Well i did upgrade my protection set into a savage protection set and think it was worth it. They dont cost that much more. Drop training as allways, only train to a level you can easy afford. But really good slaughter gear does. Also i suggest when have the hath, go for tokenizer. At least Token I will speed you monster creating that much up, that i would call it the best pay off perk at all. Well i cant actually say something about switching to mage, but even when i now had the money to do so and it would be that much faster, i wouldnt do until i have finalize my 1H set. edit: looks like i have missread. Yeah, buying some actuators and BoS isnt the worst idea. I mean most of them you can carry over to new gear, so will never actually be a waste of money. Even when your gear dont really has the biggest potential. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jan 13 2018, 00:42
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Jan 13 2018, 01:22
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qw3rty67
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 12 2018, 17:20) - Should I start investing in Bindings of Slaughter and Repurposed Actuators (along with boatloads of metal/etc.) to upgrade the ADB on my rapier past 5, and the ADB on my armors?
- Should I max out some training: Adept Learner 150 currently. Also, various "loot" training could be maxed out as well (scavenger, archaeologist, etc.)
- invest in hath for further hath perks (have IA2 and VV, plan to get DD1; this route would see me getting several other perks like more DD, Crystarium, Tokenizer, maybe Dark Descent to do IW service)
- simply save up a lot and see if I can't build up several tens of millions of credits to make progress on a goal like switching to mage.
1. Seems like there's a big gap between killing things with skills and killing things with counters using 1h, compared to 2h and mage upgrades that get better with every binding. Probably not worth it if you're going to play multiple styles or switch from melee to mage. 2. Training are SO not worth it. Maybe if you're botting for the next 6 months (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) The biggest drop increases come from fighting high PL monsters. Might as well spend the money killing faster = increased drops / time 3. Daemon Duality is underrated. Get it asap. 10% everything is better than a few %s on a single item for a single char slot. 4. Mage isn't that expensive. You'll just have to use debuffs and waste a lot of time on IWs and reforging. Maging on ezmode is a different story.
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Jan 13 2018, 03:03
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 12 2018, 20:20) [*]Should I max out some training: Adept Learner 150 currently. Also, various "loot" training could be maxed out as well (scavenger, archaeologist, etc.)
There are many better uses for almost 80M o(≧▽≦)oAs said, (@^◡^) DD is ☆*:.。.NOICE.。.:*☆ and it will carry you forever no matter what build, what playstyle, what equipment.
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Jan 13 2018, 08:31
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Paruri
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Can anyone tell me how to array monsters by class in Jenga's database? When I checked for class and write down the class name, results were none (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jan 13 2018, 10:22
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UnknowDestroyer
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If you don't mind the low % of your dropped one, you can use it and save 6.2m. Let's compare the main stat: 423, EDB 36%, Int 43%, Wis 68%, Agi 98%, Evd 53%, Pmit 92%, CS 73% vs 416, EDB 9%, Int 18%, Wis 15%, Agi 64%, Evd 69%, Pmit 27%, CS 21%
EDB, Int, Wis, CS, pretty much all the main stat is lower.
That said, if you're patient enough, maybe you can spend that money on a better Charge Heimdall Cap next time?
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Jan 13 2018, 10:29
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cornandbeans
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QUOTE(UnknowDestroyer @ Jan 13 2018, 16:22) If you don't mind the low % of your dropped one, you can use it and save 6.2m. Let's compare the main stat: 423, EDB 36%, Int 43%, Wis 68%, Agi 98%, Evd 53%, Pmit 92%, CS 73% vs 416, EDB 9%, Int 18%, Wis 15%, Agi 64%, Evd 69%, Pmit 27%, CS 21%
EDB, Int, Wis, CS, pretty much all the main stat is lower.
That said, if you're patient enough, maybe you can spend that money on a better Charge Heimdall Cap next time?
Just read the auction rule, it seems no way I can cancel my bid now. Now I am thinking of resell issues. This post has been edited by Lastwizard05: Jan 13 2018, 10:31
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Jan 13 2018, 10:39
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Jan 13 2018, 00:29) Just read the auction rule, it seems no way I can cancel my bid now. Now I am thinking of resell issues.
Keep trying to win the one in the auction. Sell the one that dropped, it's worse by a fair amount.
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Jan 13 2018, 11:08
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cornandbeans
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 13 2018, 16:39) Keep trying to win the one in the auction. Sell the one that dropped, it's worse by a fair amount.
thx for your advice.
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Jan 13 2018, 11:37
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hentailover6983
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I am curious about the selling of equipment. Should I repair them to 100% before offering them for sale or auction or should I just sell them as I got them?
Also, what is the range of credits do most equipment go for?
I currently have only Magnificent level Phase, Shade, and Power armors, and Mag-level weapons. Legendary two-handed weapons and staffs. And Legendary level Cloth, Plate, and Leather armors if that helps.
I also have some Legendary Phase armors too.
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Jan 13 2018, 11:41
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 12 2018, 23:18) What's mmm...mmm...~?
An orgasm? Eating a tiramisu? Dunno... QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 12 2018, 23:40) edit: looks like i have missread. Yeah, buying some actuators and BoS isnt the worst idea. I mean most of them you can carry over to new gear, so will never actually be a waste of money. Even when your gear dont really has the biggest potential. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) My two cents: actually there's a big gap between weapon's adb and armors' adbs, and this reflects in the number of upgrades one could make on his weapon before reaching the point in which investing in armors gives a better roi. The gap is even bigger with non-slaughter ones, which means an even higher amount of upgrades on weapon before reaching the break point Tl;dr: consider upgrading adb on armors with bindings only if your weapon is already upgraded quite a lot. The first five levels are always worth it, if you have enough actuators. QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Jan 13 2018, 00:22) 3. Daemon Duality is underrated. Get it asap. 10% everything is better than a few %s on a single item for a single char slot.
3. Furthermore it's valid for all your personas and builds, unlike a bunch of upgrades on only one of your items. QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 13 2018, 07:31) Can anyone tell me how to array monsters by class in Jenga's database? When I checked for class and write down the class name, results were none (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Did you modify the scroll-down menu to 'class'? Also, iirc the first letter should be a capital one. QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Jan 13 2018, 09:07) Ironic situation: 1. I am bidding Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Heimdall @6.2m in super's auction. 2. It is bullshit but I just dropped another Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Heimdall TODAY. Which one should I get rid of? Can I resell that one in auction immediately if I win? In such cases I suggest dealing with the second highest bidder, since at least him is interested in that piece. Of course, don't expect for him to pay the same amount of credits you did.
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Jan 13 2018, 11:49
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Paruri
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 13 2018, 18:41)
Did you modify the scroll-down menu to 'class'? Also, iirc the first letter should be a capital one.
Yes, I did both. But the search didn't operate
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Jan 13 2018, 11:54
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 13 2018, 10:41) Eating a tiramisu?
I would prefer a Panna cotta. Yummi. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 13 2018, 10:41) My two cents: actually there's a big gap between weapon's adb and armors' adbs, and this reflects in the number of upgrades one could make on his weapon before reaching the point in which investing in armors gives a better roi. The gap is even bigger with non-slaughter ones, which means an even higher amount of upgrades on weapon before reaching the break point
True, true. But if you plan to upgrade your whole gear, it doesnt matter too much. It wouldnt be the most efficient you could do, but in the end and upgrade is an upgrade. And when i remember what i did read from Cryosite all together over the time, i am sure he is smart enough to notice when the investment doesnt feel like worth it for him. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jan 13 2018, 12:06
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hentailover6983
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Something I forgot to add to my previous post:
I am a Power Armor Melee 1h fighter.
I am currently using a Max IW Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter and Max IW Magnificent Ruby Force Shield of Protection with Mag and Legendary soulfused power armor.
Which melee weapon best works with power armor and force shield? Piercing, Smashing or Slashing?
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Jan 13 2018, 12:11
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Jan 13 2018, 02:06) Something I forgot to add to my previous post:
I am a Power Armor Melee 1h fighter.
I am currently using a Max IW Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter and Max IW Magnificent Ruby Force Shield of Protection with Mag and Legendary soulfused power armor.
Which melee weapon best works with power armor and force shield? Piercing, Smashing or Slashing?
Void. When you IW10 your weapon, it becomes void. Damage type isn't a concern, particularly for 1h. What you care for is the Penetrated Armor proc from the rapier, along with some useful parry stat. Axes and clubs don't give parry, and their procs are not appealing for 1h. Bleed is eh. Stun is pointless since you tend to stun everything with counters. Shortswords and Wakizashis give bleed, which is eh. Wakizashis also have terrible ADB, and give attack speed which is detrimental to 1h style. Go with the flow. Stick to your rapier.
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Jan 13 2018, 12:23
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hentailover6983
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Thank you. I've been saving any bindings and actuators my monsters give me, so nothings been truly upgraded yet. It might be a while, since I consider myself a casual player.
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Jan 13 2018, 12:32
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igs88
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Jan 13 2018, 17:06) Something I forgot to add to my previous post:
I am a Power Armor Melee 1h fighter.
I am currently using a Max IW Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter and Max IW Magnificent Ruby Force Shield of Protection with Mag and Legendary soulfused power armor.
Which melee weapon best works with power armor and force shield? Piercing, Smashing or Slashing?
We are the same. For a player below 400 like us 1H power armor is (seems) the best. I recently got legendary ethereal rapier of slaughter too (and soulfuse it). I choose ethereal to minimize the burden to crit more often. My suggestion is change your title to "godslayer" as the experts here said, to increase your survival in battle. QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 13 2018, 17:11) Void. When you IW10 your weapon, it becomes void.
Damage type isn't a concern, particularly for 1h. What you care for is the Penetrated Armor proc from the rapier, along with some useful parry stat.
Axes and clubs don't give parry, and their procs are not appealing for 1h. Bleed is eh. Stun is pointless since you tend to stun everything with counters.
Shortswords and Wakizashis give bleed, which is eh. Wakizashis also have terrible ADB, and give attack speed which is detrimental to 1h style.
Go with the flow. Stick to your rapier.
Is it okay for me to fight with 50%block and less 50% parry? because my level is not that high so I have to increase it bit by bit (by exp and credits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )
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Jan 13 2018, 12:49
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 13 2018, 11:11) Axes and clubs don't give parry, and their procs are not appealing for 1h. Bleed is eh.
This i true for the most of us, but wasnt there someone who did tested a really high damage Axe and that i was faster in normal arenas as a high damage rapier? Hm, i dont remember who it was. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(igs88 @ Jan 13 2018, 11:32) Is it okay for me to fight with 50%block and less 50% parry? because my level is not that high so I have to increase it bit by bit (by exp and credits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) Dont worry. Even i just reach 66.7 parry and 67.2 block. So when you are with both around 50% that should be fine now. The same for increase it bit by bit, that is the way we all had to got. Step after step will you someday reach your goal. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jan 13 2018, 13:03
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jan 13 2018, 02:32) Is it okay for me to fight with 50%block and less 50% parry? because my level is not that high so I have to increase it bit by bit (by exp and credits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) It's fine to fight that way. You just have to see where your limits are. If you can get to the end of the arenas you want to do on IWTBH but PFUDOR is too much damage, then stay with IWTBH. If that is still too hard, stay with Nintendo, etc. Find out what takes too long to clear (how much real life time you feel like playing the game) and how much you have to spend healing instead of stabbing. As Uncle says, there is not a huge difference between "easy to get/low" stuff and "absolute best end game amazing." You pay a whole lot for tiny bits of improvement as you get later on in progression. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 13 2018, 02:49) This i true for the most of us, but wasnt there someone who did tested a really high damage Axe and that i was faster in normal arenas as a high damage rapier? Hm, i dont remember who it was. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) There were rumors that some "end game rich players" might have experimented with axes. The big barrier to testing is that if you spend several millions of credits on your rapier, you need to spend several millions on your axe. Not too many feel like investing all that to get a fair comparison. Before I start investing a lot into my rapier, I do want to get a really nice axe (preferably arctic of slaughter, with reasonably high ADB) that I can waste credits on getting Fat/Butt, then upgrading as much as my rapier is upgraded. Then I'll be able to see how much more damage it does, and how much more healing it requires of me due to less parry. The theory seems sound though. All else equal, a 1h player with a really nice shield, and really nice power armor probably won't miss some parry. Imperil can reduce pmit so the loss of PA isn't as much. From there it is the higher ADB and the small contribution bleeding wounds adds. Testing will show if the tradeoff yields a net benefit though.
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Jan 13 2018, 13:17
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 13 2018, 12:03) Imperil can reduce pmit so the loss of PA isn't as much. From there it is the higher ADB and the small contribution bleeding wounds adds. Testing will show if the tradeoff yields a net benefit though.
I dont remember reading something about imperil, so i would guess the higher damage of an axe would fully compensate for the loss of PA, at least for normal monsters. Iirc SG are better killed with a rapier because of their much bigger HP. And of course this is nothing for you, or even for me when i comes to it. I just wanted to mention it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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