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post Oct 21 2018, 12:01
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Oct 21 2018, 07:00) *

Same, 910k for extra mage profs earlier is too cheap to ignore (+2,5m for extra 5 levels might be ok too, but more than that is unnecessary expensive)



QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 21 2018, 07:35) *

6 Here and as allready said in another topic it took level 6 20 level to actually show me any benefits.

Thanks
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post Oct 21 2018, 12:45
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Oct 21 2018, 09:35) *

OK, who ragequitted the game? Or who got hacked? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
And don't question the usefulness of these equipments.

dat waki...
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post Oct 21 2018, 12:56
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 21 2018, 12:45) *

dat waki...

IIRC, I paid 7-8M for my holy one. And I consider it was a great deal, given all the forging that was on it.
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post Oct 21 2018, 12:57
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That waki is legit, nimble peerless waki, just perfect for niten, is ethereal the best for niten?


[mod edit]: removed the "mmm", it really felt like an orgasm...

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post Oct 21 2018, 13:06
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 21 2018, 12:45) *

dat waki...

Iirc i got quite a few M for a similiar one. I just dont remember what element it was. Oh, i am getting old.
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post Oct 21 2018, 14:45
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QUOTE(VawX @ Oct 21 2018, 12:57) *

That waki is legit, nimble peerless waki, just perfect for niten, is ethereal the best for niten?

nope. given waki's low burden, you can go ballistic. also, nimble is better for DW than for niten, afaik.
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post Oct 21 2018, 20:28
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Quick question, do you get a guaranteed noodly appendage in triple trio ring of blood?
Or are the trophy drops random?

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post Oct 21 2018, 20:31
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Oct 21 2018, 20:28) *

Quick question, do you get a guaranteed noodly appendage in triple trio ring of blood?
Or are the trophy drops random?

All the trophy drops there are guaranteed and predetermined.
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post Oct 21 2018, 20:35
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Oct 21 2018, 20:28) *

Quick question, do you get a guaranteed noodly appendage in triple trio ring of blood?
Or are the trophy drops random?

In RoB all trophies are guaranteed. Just like all trophies you get from monsters at the end of the arena, from those in RE, IW and Fest. Actually the only exception from that rule are the SG in the last three arenas that iirc have only a 10% chance of dropping their trophy, but those at the end have a 100% chance again.

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post Oct 21 2018, 21:20
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Thank you Uncle!
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post Oct 21 2018, 21:32
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Funfact. When i did my first SG arena ever. I tought that they didnt drop their trophy was a bug. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 22 2018, 01:39
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 22 2018, 02:32) *

Funfact. When i did my first SG arena ever. I tought that they didnt drop their trophy was a bug. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I also bummed when knowing for the first time that those schoolgirls didn't always drop trophy after I penetrate them multiple times until they faint...

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post Oct 22 2018, 01:43
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Oct 21 2018, 18:39) *

I also bummed when knowing for the first time that those schoolgirls didn't always drop trophy after I penetrate them multiple times until they faint...


Haha, you definitely have a way with words.
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post Oct 22 2018, 05:11
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What's the maximum resist chance normal monsters have?

Does a mage with maxed proficiency, prof perk and an oak/willow staff need penetrator if they aren't using imperil?
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post Oct 22 2018, 07:38
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Oct 22 2018, 05:11) *

What's the maximum resist chance normal monsters have?

Does a mage with maxed proficiency, prof perk and an oak/willow staff need penetrator if they aren't using imperil?


I believe so, yes. Not only imperil benefits from penetrator. And you will always encounter some resist also with maxed prof.

And, penetrate works wonders with schoolgirls, as Fudo Masamune pointed out a couple of posts ago.
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post Oct 22 2018, 10:23
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Is the Orbital Friendship Cannon worth getting even without its Hath perk boost?
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post Oct 22 2018, 10:27
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QUOTE(Desynchronizer @ Oct 22 2018, 10:23) *

Is the Orbital Friendship Cannon worth getting even without its Hath perk boost?

Yes, it is worth it. The perk is imo not worth it.

Maybe i should explain that a bit more. The normal OFC is most of the time allready able to kill, or at least nearly kill a full round by itself. The only exception from this are the special monster. Most important here, because we encounter them the most, are school girls. You cant kill a SG at fully health with the OFC, actually you do not even kill them half way. So even when i now dont know how big the damage boost of the perk is, because i dont have it, it had to do more than even double the damage output to make even noticeble damage to the SG. But you still would be left in that round with only them and no monsters at all. For 1H as excample this is imo no situation you actually want to be in, to keep your spirit stance going. Because yes, if you time the OFC right and there are enough monsters in that round, you can keep it going even while using the OFC. And now to round without SG, like allready said, you will be able to kill them even with the perk most of the time, so a perk that cost so much hath, would only make sure that you would kill every round i guess. What would save you only a few turns overall which is actually just not worth it.

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post Oct 22 2018, 14:21
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 22 2018, 02:38) *

I believe so, yes. Not only imperil benefits from penetrator. And you will always encounter some resist also with maxed prof.

And, penetrate works wonders with schoolgirls, as Fudo Masamune pointed out a couple of posts ago.

I mean, this is the formula for monster resist in the wiki:

Resist = 1 - (1 - min(10 , (WIS/ 100) , (WIS - Level) / 75) / 100) * (1 - chaos_dissipation_rank * 0.5%)

Not even considering my monsters with poor Wisom and no dissipation upgrades that shouldn't show up for endgame players, an OP monster calculation should be:

Resist = 1 - (1 - 10 / 100) * (1 - 20 * 0.5%) = 19% (Is this right?)

On PFUDOR that would make it 29%, which even the natural counter-resist from proficiency could deal with easily.

Am I mistaking how counter-resist works, or is the math above wrong? Both?

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post Oct 22 2018, 17:53
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Oct 22 2018, 09:21) *
Am I mistaking how counter-resist works, or is the math above wrong? Both?

Afaik, counter-resist reduces the actual monsters resist by a percentage... so, if a monster has 30% resist and you have 50% counter-resist, the monsters' final resist would be 15%.

The only way to negate resist completely is by reaching 100% counter-resist, which is impossible...

The max counter-resist you can have (with 1.0 prof factor + Lv.5 Penetrator) is 83.59% for Oak/Willow and 70% for other Staves.
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post Oct 22 2018, 18:00
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Oct 22 2018, 12:53) *

Afaik, counter-resist reduces the actual monsters resist by a percentage... so, if a monster has 30% resist and you have 50% counter-resist, the monsters' final resist would be 15%.

The only way to negate resist completely is by reaching 100% counter-resist, which is impossible...

The max counter-resist you can have (with 1.0 prof factor + Lv.5 Penetrator) is 83.59% for Oak/Willow and 70% for other Staves.

I see.

Thank you very much for clearing this up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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