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If you have a rapier and a shortsword with identical ADB/Parry/PAB stats, which one is better?

The rapier would be better due to the Penetrated Armor proc.

Of course, if you are one shoting monsters, which doesn't even let penetrated armor to proc, then shortsword could be better.

Of course, if you are one shoting monsters,

And how should that be possible? Playing on normal? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

And how should that be possible? Playing on normal? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Full forged slaughter set, optmized stats, spirit stance, DD perks, vase and bubble-gum, etc etc.

My point was that if you are killing monsters before penetrated armor can proc, then you might as well go with the shortsword.

EDIT

Have to reconsider my point when thinking about Boss, SG and God monsters.

Rapier is the way to go when facing them.

This post has been edited by Kinights: Oct 18 2018, 03:49

Full forged slaughter set, optmized stats, spirit stance, DD perks, vase and bubble-gum, etc etc.

So except the stance all things he sure as sure dont have and wont have anytime soon? That makes it imo a really, really weak argument. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Also using vase and gum as melee is nothing but stupid and a waste of a lot of credits. I mean it is hardly cost-effective while playing as mage.

So except the stance all things he sure as sure dont have and wont have anytime soon? That makes it imo a really, really weak argument. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Also using vase and gum as melee is nothing but stupid and a waste of a lot of credits. I mean it is hardly cost-effective while playing as mage.

I wan't suggesting the shortsword at all in the first post.

Just wanted to point out that shortsword could be an option in case you can one shot monsters, and with the requirements I listed above, it should be obvious it's a very isolated case.

But then again, SGs and Gods exist, so rapier is the way to go, until they can be one shotted someday. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Just wanted to point out that shortsword could be an option in case you can one shot monsters, and with the requirements I listed above, it should be obvious it's a very isolated case.

Yeah, it is obvious for you, me and everyone who actually knows how to play 1H. But for someone who ask if shortsword or rapier would be better when they had the same stats? Do you see what my point is?

Yeah, it is obvious for you, me and everyone who actually knows how to play 1H. But for someone who ask if shortsword or rapier would be better when they had the same stats? Do you see what my point is?

Yes, but you don't see mine.

From my post, any player can ask themselves a simple question: can I one shot monsters?

If no, then a rapier is better.

If yes, then you can use a shortsword all you want.

Is this valid enough?

Nevermind, I'm sorry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

For some reason I keep taking weapon stats as if they were the bottom percentages from Super's percentile ranges script.

I should stop posting when I'm sleep drunk. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

This post has been edited by Kinights: Oct 18 2018, 04:47

Nevermind, I'm sorry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Actually i didnt want you to be sorry, just to point out that this could be confusing for people who still have to learn quite a bit about the game. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Actually i didnt want you to be sorry, just to point out that this could be confusing for people who still have to learn quite a bit about the game. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Nah, it's pretty dumb of me to point out a shortsword could be better when the question specifically said both weapons had same attack and stats.

Checked just now, and chance for PA and Bleed to proc is basically the same average ~22%, so Bleed doesn't even win over in this side.

Makes me realize how much better bleed could be if just it's chance to proc was higher. Maybe double this could make a huge difference already?

But you did miss somethng.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Procs
Landing a critical strike will always proc your weapon's status effect.

This is btw also a reason why i prefer Dex over Str.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Oct 18 2018, 05:12

I'm still contemplating to train Archeologist 10, it cost 8M to upgrade the from 190% to 200% drop rate of artifact so it should only upgrade around 5%.

If I got around 15 PA everyday and 1 PA can be sold for 22k that means I'll got extra credits around (5%*15*22k) = 16.5k and that means I need (8M/16.5k = 485) days for it to break even.

Maybe I should max my equipment first mmm...

I'm still contemplating to train Archeologist 10, it cost 8M to upgrade the from 190% to 200% drop rate of artifact so it should only upgrade around 5%.

If I got around 15 PA everyday and 1 PA can be sold for 22k that means I'll got extra credits around (5%*15*22k) = 16.5k and that means I need (8M/16.5k = 485) days for it to break even.

Maybe I should max my equipment first mmm...

It's a matter of preference. If you play a lot, the break-even point for arch is shorter. I for one haven't fully maxed my equip drop training, while scavanger + arch are fully trained.

It's a matter of preference. If you play a lot, the break-even point for arch is shorter. I for one haven't fully maxed my equip drop training, while scavanger + arch are fully trained.

Yeah my scavenger also already maxed, and arch seems to be the easiest to break even since it doesn't gamble like the equip drop and doesn't rely on abstract numbers of drop quality, but the final cost is just on another level mmm...

Yeah my scavenger also already maxed, and arch seems to be the easiest to break even since it doesn't gamble like the equip drop and doesn't rely on abstract numbers of drop quality, but the final cost is just on another level mmm...

I play IW constantly and don't get many dropping though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

what is common Assimilator training level ?
currently mine is 5/25

what is common Assimilator training level ?
currently mine is 5/25

Same, 910k for extra mage profs earlier is too cheap to ignore (+2,5m for extra 5 levels might be ok too, but more than that is unnecessary expensive)

6 Here and as allready said in another topic it took level 6 20 level to actually show me any benefits.

got these from bazaar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Peerless Amber Shade Gauntlets of the Arcanist
Peerless Amber Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
Peerless Demonic Wakizashi of the Nimble

Are nimble wakis good for niten or 1h mage?
Are the 2 gauntlets any good for endgame equipment?

got these from bazaar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Peerless Amber Shade Gauntlets of the Arcanist
Peerless Amber Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
Peerless Demonic Wakizashi of the Nimble

Are nimble wakis good for niten or 1h mage?
Are the 2 gauntlets any good for endgame equipment?

Nice! This particular nimble waki is good for niten since dark 1h doesn't really work from what I hear (mana costs too high). I think the fleet gauntlet is good for endgame (well, as much as light armor is for endgame, which isn't very) - shadowdancer and/or savage prefix would be better, but it is pretty solid. Not sure about the arcanist - my feel is that it's probably just for collection.

got these from bazaar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Peerless Amber Shade Gauntlets of the Arcanist
Peerless Amber Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
Peerless Demonic Wakizashi of the Nimble

Are nimble wakis good for niten or 1h mage?
Are the 2 gauntlets any good for endgame equipment?

OK, who ragequitted the game? Or who got hacked? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
And don't question the usefulness of these equipments.