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post Oct 12 2018, 00:10
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 06:06) *

Ah, well i didnt knew about that. Oh, i see. Well you have allready outlevel those by quite a bit. I am not sure how that loan equipment does work. But unless you soulfuse your equipment you will loose quite a bit of stats because of their low level compare to your own. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Oh, and you should really stop using featherweight charms. 1H does not really benefit from them. I mean i guess at your level you still use haste and shadow veil, and that is okay. But that is something you want to stop sooner or later. Because in the end it reduce the amount of counterattacks you do and by that also decrease your overcharge gain and by that makes it harder to keep your spirit stance running. And less counter attacks means also dealing less damage. Btw you should also think about IW at least your rapier. And for your just any IW would do it.


Thanks for all the tips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I put on the charm just cause... Just cause? I have like 100 of em and I went to do the Eternal Darkness arena on PFUDOR so thought fuck it, why not.

So I shouldn't be using haste and SV at some point?
I guess SV makes sense if I dodge and don't counter, but why haste?


Also, got this drop from the arena:

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of the Illithid

That's not bad... I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Yeah I asked ST-Ru if it's ok to IW the stuff he gave me (cause it's not mine I don't wanna mess around with it without permission) but I guess he's been away for a bit/not reading PMs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 12 2018, 00:30
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 12 2018, 00:10) *

So I shouldn't be using haste and SV at some point?


Yeah, i guess right now it keeps you alive in some arenas on high difficulty. So it is okay to use it for that. But sooner or later, you will doing just fine without them and when that happens you really shouldnt use them anylonger.
QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 12 2018, 00:10) *

I guess SV makes sense if I dodge and don't counter, but why haste?

In the end both have more or less the same effect, less counter attacks. And by lower overall damage you deal and by that slower clear speed overall.

QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 12 2018, 00:10) *

Also, got this drop from the arena:

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of the Illithid

That's not bad... I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Ehteral of Illithid? That is bad.

Your Mag rapier has damage base stat of 49.63 the Leg rapier has only 37.19. So the rapier you use right now has more damage.

QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 12 2018, 00:10) *

Yeah I asked ST-Ru if it's ok to IW the stuff he gave me (cause it's not mine I don't wanna mess around with it without permission) but I guess he's been away for a bit/not reading PMs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Ehm, wait so this rapier is actually nothing but a loan you have to give back sooner or later? Okay, i take back what i did say about upgrade it. Stop that right now and keep everything you would otherwhise to upgrade that equipment to upgrade equipment that is actually your own.

So in that case i would even say use the Illithid. At least that one is your own. Even when it is not a good one. When i drop a Illithid rapier is just bazaar it right away.
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post Oct 12 2018, 00:53
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 07:30) *

Ehm, wait so this rapier is actually nothing but a loan you have to give back sooner or later? Okay, i take back what i did say about upgrade it. Stop that right now and keep everything you would otherwhise to upgrade that equipment to upgrade equipment that is actually your own.

So in that case i would even say use the Illithid. At least that one is your own. Even when it is not a good one. When i drop a Illithid rapier is just bazaar it right away.


Yeah I was thinking the same.
I wasn't planning on upgrading the loan rapier, just doing some basic IW on it. But just in case wanna hear back from ST-Ru first.
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post Oct 12 2018, 05:04
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do iris strike blind affected Better Blind?
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post Oct 12 2018, 05:48
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QUOTE(afire1 @ Oct 12 2018, 05:04) *

do iris strike blind affected Better Blind?

Iris Strike is a skill. Blind is a spell. Better Blind does improve the deprecating spelll blind. Not the status effect that would also affect the skill. Or in one word. No. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Oct 12 2018, 20:07
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do iris strike blind affected Better Blind?

yes
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post Oct 13 2018, 02:45
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weird bug just happened today

though the item is still with me
I can't seem to equip it nor find it in my inventory

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Excalibolg

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seems renaming the gear wont show it anymore as Legendary
disabling the filters lists it normally


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post Oct 13 2018, 02:57
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What all can I do to improve my odds of receiving token drops? I know you can increase the drop rate with Scavenger and Tokenizer, but does anything else affect it?
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post Oct 13 2018, 03:03
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 12 2018, 19:57) *

What all can I do to improve my odds of receiving token drops? I know you can increase the drop rate with Scavenger and Tokenizer, but does anything else affect it?

playing more
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post Oct 13 2018, 03:03
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 13 2018, 02:57) *

What all can I do to improve my odds of receiving token drops? I know you can increase the drop rate with Scavenger and Tokenizer, but does anything else affect it?

Hm, the only thing i could think of except from what you allready said is play more. The more rounds you actually play of whatever the higher the chance for a token to drop. By that way i did enough blood token together to play one FSM and Konata for a more than a week even if i would stop play anythingelse. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Oct 13 2018, 03:48
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 18:03) *
Hm, the only thing i could think of except from what you allready said is play more. The more rounds you actually play of whatever the higher the chance for a token to drop. By that way i did enough blood token together to play one FSM and Konata for a more than a week even if i would stop play anythingelse. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


Wait, so the higher level arenas have a higher drop rate? I thought there was just a static token drop rate for clearing an arena, maybe modified by difficulty.

I'd been spending all my game time playing through the low-round arenas on higher difficulty when it sounds like I should have been playing the high-round arenas on Normal instead.

Is that right?
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post Oct 13 2018, 03:54
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 13 2018, 03:48) *

Is that right?

No, where did you read that in my post? I just meant play more. Rounds was here just an overall description, i could also have said kill more monster. So as an example, one who does all the arenas every day and lets say 500 rounds of GF or IW every day, get more token as one who just does the arenas.

Also no one should play on normal. You just get so much less credits, worse equipment drops and so on, as even on hard or hell. You should really play on the highest difficulty you can play in a way you have fun. I say that to prevent one from reading just highest and play in a way he feels so week and slow it just isnt enjoyable to play.

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post Oct 13 2018, 04:08
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 18:54) *
No, where did you read that in my post?

I think it was a combination of you saying:

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 18:03) *
The more rounds you actually play of whatever the higher the chance for a token to drop.

Alongside me having just seen the wiki saying:

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Blood and Chaos Tokens are primarily obtained as Arena and Ring of Blood clear bonus drops

These two things combined to make me think that Arenas with higher round counts have a higher drop rate for their Clear Bonuses.


QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 18:54) *

Also no one should play on normal. You just get so much less credits, worse equipment drops and so on, as even on hard or hell. You should really play on the highest difficulty you can play in a way you have fun. I say that to prevent one from reading just highest and play in a way he feels so week and slow it just isnt enjoyable to play.


I was planning to play on Normal just to speed things up. Right now my main goal is Chaos Tokens. Lower difficulty means quicker arenas means more clear bonuses within my available game time.
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post Oct 13 2018, 04:22
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 13 2018, 04:08) *

These two things combined to make me think that Arenas with higher round counts have a higher drop rate for their Clear Bonuses.

Oh, well that is correct afaik.

QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 13 2018, 04:08) *

I was planning to play on Normal just to speed things up. Right now my main goal is Chaos Tokens. Lower difficulty means quicker arenas means more clear bonuses within my available game time.

But your know that you really loose quite a bit when you do that? And iirc token even have a reduced chance to drop as a normal drop. Personally i would suggest to play at least on hell and when you actually want more token, save the money to buy enough hath for tokenizer, i promise if you actually want chaos tokens it will really be worth it.

Wasnt there a limitation of how many rounds you can play on normal before you actually get reduced drops? Cant find something about it in the wiki right now, but i am quite sure to remember something about it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Oct 13 2018, 04:40
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 19:22) *
But your know that you really loose quite a bit when you do that? And iirc token even have a reduced chance to drop as a normal drop. Personally i would suggest to play at least on hell and when you actually want more token, save the money to buy enough hath for tokenizer, i promise if you actually want chaos tokens it will really be worth it.


I really just want to get another 14 Chaos Tokens so that I can get my 10th monster (I want to get to double digits to test some scripts I wrote). I really wish you could just BUY Chaos Tokens.
I'll go back to worrying about credits and equipment after that.


QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 19:22) *
Wasnt there a limitation of how many rounds you can play on normal before you actually get reduced drops? Cant find something about it in the wiki right now, but i am quite sure to remember something about it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


The only round limit I see is actually the <10% Stamina limit. Although while researching I did find out that playing below Hell does "Lower [the] drop chance for artifacts and tokens when doing Grindfest and Item World". It doesn't seem to affect the Arena apparently. Still good to know though.
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post Oct 13 2018, 04:47
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 13 2018, 04:40) *

I really just want to get another 14 Chaos Tokens so that I can get my 10th monster

Oh. Okay.

QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 13 2018, 04:40) *

I really wish you could just BUY Chaos Tokens.

I really hope that this will never happen.


QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 13 2018, 04:40) *

The only round limit I see is actually the <10% Stamina limit. Although while researching I did find out that playing below Hell does "Lower [the] drop chance for artifacts and tokens when doing Grindfest and Item World". It doesn't seem to affect the Arena apparently. Still good to know though.

Maybe this was changed in an update and i just never notice it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 13 2018, 06:16
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Oct 12 2018, 21:57) *

What all can I do to improve my odds of receiving token drops? I know you can increase the drop rate with Scavenger and Tokenizer, but does anything else affect it?

You could artificially increase the drop rate of all other items, not specifically tokens, by reaching the cap in your equipment inventory, making the roll for an equip drop immediately fail and going straight for the other rolls, as seen here.

As long as you aren't paranoid about missing a Legendary or Peerless drop that could be worth millions, and are adamant on farming oly tokens, then this might help.
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post Oct 13 2018, 06:45
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I tought someone tested this and the result was just that the equipment that still droped was lost. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 13 2018, 07:54
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 13 2018, 01:45) *

I tought someone tested this and the result was just that the equipment that still droped was lost. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I'm not sure how the drops really work, but considering the low chance for successful artifact and token drops, it's a lot more likely that you will get normal items, crystals and credits, so it's possible that the person testing ended up getting more restoratives and crystals and it went unnoticed, as it's a lot harder to track changes in these than artifacts and tokens.

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post Oct 13 2018, 07:58
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Oct 13 2018, 07:54) *

I'm not sure how the drops really work, but considering the low chance for successful artifact and token drops, it's a lot more likely that you will get normal items, crystals and credits, so it's possible that the person testing ended up getting more restoratives and crystals and it went unnoticed, as it's a lot harder to track changes in these than artifacts and tokens.

Iirc the result was no different at all, except that all still droped equipment pieces had no place to go and vanish into the void where everything goes to when it leaves bazaar for good. Just dont ask me who did it or where it is writen.
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