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post Oct 11 2018, 15:26
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Guys is this normal for lvl ~270 1h rapier/shield/power armor?

This is the New Wings (lvl150) arena clear stats (on PFUDOR):

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Am I over/under using anything?
My strategy for spirit stance atm is:
1. charge up my overcharge (without using spirit stance) till I can use OFC
2. use OFC
3. use spirit stance as much as I can till I have like ~15 turns left for OFC cooldown
4. turn off spirit stance
5. repeat

Is this a decent strat? I tried going full spirit stance at all times, but I seem to rarely charge up enough for OFC.
Also this way I use waaay less spirit droughts/pots.

Any feedback would be appreciated!

P.s. I have everything on IA except for spark

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post Oct 11 2018, 15:38
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 20:26) *

Guys is this normal for lvl ~270 1h rapier/shield/power armor?

Am I over/under using anything?
My strategy for spirit stance atm is:
1. charge up my overcharge (without using spirit stance) till I can use OFC
2. use OFC
3. use spirit stance as much as I can till I have like ~15 turns left for OFC cooldown
4. turn off spirit stance
5. repeat


I use 4 buffs going into arena: Regen, Protection, Spirit Shield and Heartseeker as for me that's the best buffs for getting fastest time and least usage of healing item mmm...

As for the process, it's pretty similar, but I also use use imperil on the SG (at least once a round) and hit only the SG when I'm not using OFC mmm...

For faster clear time I use dark imperil as I have demonic rapier and divinity infusion since SG weak against holy and dark mmm...

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post Oct 11 2018, 15:46
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Sorry, what is SG?
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post Oct 11 2018, 15:59
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Sorry, what is SG?


School Girl, the bosses in last 3 stages mmm...
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post Oct 11 2018, 16:04
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Ah!

I'll throw in a silence or slow if there's a boss.
Waiting for 310 to use the no-turn-imperil-thingamajig.
Though I do use it when necessary. Like the Trio and the tree last round. Other than that, not really.
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post Oct 11 2018, 16:11
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 21:04) *

Ah!

I'll throw in a silence or slow if there's a boss.
Waiting for 310 to use the no-turn-imperil-thingamajig.
Though I do use it when necessary. Like the Trio and the tree last round. Other than that, not really.


Throw in imperil once a round is nice to build up Deprecating proficiency, and it's definitely help killing bosses when it lands, just be careful of your mana mmm...
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post Oct 11 2018, 17:14
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 10:26) *

Guys is this normal for lvl ~270 1h rapier/shield/power armor?

My strategy for spirit stance atm is:
1. charge up my overcharge (without using spirit stance) till I can use OFC
2. use OFC
3. use spirit stance as much as I can till I have like ~15 turns left for OFC cooldown
4. turn off spirit stance
5. repeat

Is this a decent strat? I tried going full spirit stance at all times, but I seem to rarely charge up enough for OFC.
Also this way I use waaay less spirit droughts/pots.

Any feedback would be appreciated!

P.s. I have everything on IA except for spark

I believe it's more convenient to keep spark on IA, as if you do happen to trigger it, you don't have to fear getting sparked again in the turn you are curing, as it will auto recast.

You can keep a long duration spell, probably protection, on manual casting instead, but it's up to you.

--Regarding spirit stance, are you enabling it before using OFC?

It also affects OFC damage, so it should be a huge difference if you are and aren't using it.

When I played 1H I would wait until my overcharge was full, enable spirit stance, nuke monsters and then turn it off, waiting for it to fill up again to turn it back on.

I would spend the next 1~2 rounds with it on, as it should remain close to full overcharge anyways, then when OFC went off cooldown, I'd nuke monsters again on a new round, and repeat this over and over again.

In your case, if you still don't have 200 1H proficiency, you won't get the full benefit from the max number of counters per turn, but it shouldn't be much of a problem by catching up with every Dawn of a New Day.

--Now, regarding SG arenas.

You could personalize your Quickbar Slots in the settings page to have the Vital Strike skill as one of the last in the bar(mine is in the 16), then when you counter a SG and she gets stunned, you just use vital strike and deal a lot more damage(also recommend doing it when she has full stacks of penetrated armor).

That can be taken as too much micromanaging for some, but it helps in shaving off time from the whole fight overall.

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post Oct 11 2018, 17:17
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You could personalize your Quickbar Slots in the settings page to have the Vital Strike skill as one of the last in the bar(mine is in the 16), then when you counter a SG and she gets stunned, you just use vital strike and deal a lot more damage(also recommend doing it when she has full stacks of penetrated armor).



Oh man I totally forget about Vital Strike, but yes since I'm lazy, OFC is already enough for me mmm...
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post Oct 11 2018, 20:09
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Yeah, a long time ago I tried to use Spark on IA and it fucked me multiple times by w/e bug was going on at the time or whathave you and now I just feel safer casting it myself.

Yes! I figured out after not one shotting a random encounter that spirit stance adds to OFC dmg (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


QUOTE(Kinights @ Oct 12 2018, 00:14) *

I would spend the next 1~2 rounds with it on, as it should remain close to full overcharge anyways


About that... I do the same, in a sense. basically:
1st round with Spirit stance
~80% of the 2nd round with Spirit stance (last 2 mobs I turn it off to fully charge)
3rd round nuke in one hit
repeat.

If I just use it without turning it off then it doesn't really charge. In fact, if I cast OFC and have like 1,5/2 ticks left, 99% of the time I will exhaust myself on the next round (first few hits) and have to wait till 2/3 ticks (same round) to enable it again.
I am doing arena btw. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, or because of a lower mob number I do not charge as much.

I have 308 1H prof atm.


QUOTE(Kinights @ Oct 12 2018, 00:14) *

That can be taken as too much micromanaging for some, but it helps in shaving off time from the whole fight overall.


I wonder, how do you deal with managing that and OFC overcharge? Like, vital strikes cost some overcharge.
Is it if OFC is on cooldown you'll hit vitals, or does your overcharge just not really drop that low?
If so, how exactly are you keeping it high :S
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post Oct 11 2018, 20:42
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 20:09) *

I wonder, how do you deal with managing that and OFC overcharge? Like, vital strikes cost some overcharge.
Is it if OFC is on cooldown you'll hit vitals, or does your overcharge just not really drop that low?
If so, how exactly are you keeping it high :S

There is actually no reason to use them both at the same time. When you fight only normal monster use the OFC, when you encounter any special monster use vital strike. And in the end you keep your spirit stance running by having high parry, hight block and high 1H Proficiency. Oh, and of course dont use 1H and OFC at the same time.
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post Oct 11 2018, 20:54
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 15:09) *

If I just use it without turning it off then it doesn't really charge. In fact, if I cast OFC and have like 1,5/2 ticks left, 99% of the time I will exhaust myself on the next round (first few hits) and have to wait till 2/3 ticks (same round) to enable it again.
I am doing arena btw. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, or because of a lower mob number I do not charge as much.

I have 308 1H prof atm.

Yeah, it will be harder to mantain a perma spirit stance while using OFC every other turn when doing arenas due to less monsters.

I often found myself doing a few rounds without OFC because I couldn't be bothered to use it on only 4 monsters, then have to deal with the next round with ym damage halved until I could enable spirit stance again.

QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 15:09) *

I wonder, how do you deal with managing that and OFC overcharge? Like, vital strikes cost some overcharge.
Is it if OFC is on cooldown you'll hit vitals, or does your overcharge just not really drop that low?
If so, how exactly are you keeping it high :S

Currently it should be impossible to use both alongside each other, as OFC will pretty much eat up your whole overcharge bar, so if you want to use skills, you will need to drop the free nuke, or only use skills while it's on cooldown, or some other way.

As SG arenas have even less monsters, I wouldn't use OFC until the very last few rounds, where there's a decent amount to nuke, before focusing on the SGs left.
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post Oct 11 2018, 21:20
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Oct 11 2018, 20:54) *

As SG arenas have even less monsters, I wouldn't use OFC until the very last few rounds, where there's a decent amount to nuke, before focusing on the SGs left.

Imo the OFC should not be used in the SG Arenas, except the SG are allready weak enough to be killed by the OFC. Just using the OFC, kill all normal monster but let the SG staying with just barely a scratch, is not the best for getting the overcharche ready again for the OFC and keep the spirit stance running. So when i use the OFC in SG arena, every SG is either imperiled and allready hit by a vital strike or at least get hit by a few normal attacks and with the PA debuff weakend. By that way i can be sure, i am not left in the round with only some SG monster and nearly no way to kill them quick and get overcharge ready. And this is for me just no round i want in such an arena.
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post Oct 11 2018, 21:36
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 03:42) *

keep your spirit stance running by having high parry, hight block and high 1H Proficiency.

46.4% block chance
36.5% parry chance
One-handed 310.308
Is that decent for my lvl?


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Oh, and of course dont use 1H and OFC at the same time.

Come again...? 1H skills you mean, right?
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post Oct 11 2018, 21:44
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 21:36) *

46.4% block chance
36.5% parry chance
One-handed 310.308
Is that decent for my lvl?


Hm, parry does look a bit low. But iirc you still have some quite old equipment. So i guess it should be okay. Did you allready upgrade block and parry of your equipment?


QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 21:36) *

Come again...? 1H skills you mean, right?

I did mean Vital Strike of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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post Oct 11 2018, 22:48
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 04:44) *

Hm, parry does look a bit low. But iirc you still have some quite old equipment. So i guess it should be okay. Did you allready upgrade block and parry of your equipment?

No... The equip I have now is on loan from ST-Ru.
Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Slaughter
Exquisite Force Shield of Protection
It's upgraded to some extent. I am searching for better/my own gear but I'm sure it won't happen overnight.


QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 04:44) *

I did mean Vital Strike of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)


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post Oct 11 2018, 23:06
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 11 2018, 22:48) *

No... The equip I have now is on loan from ST-Ru.
Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Slaughter
Exquisite Force Shield of Protection
It's upgraded to some extent. I am searching for better/my own gear but I'm sure it won't happen overnight.

Ah, well i didnt knew about that. Oh, i see. Well you have allready outlevel those by quite a bit. I am not sure how that loan equipment does work. But unless you soulfuse your equipment you will loose quite a bit of stats because of their low level compare to your own. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Oh, and you should really stop using featherweight charms. 1H does not really benefit from them. I mean i guess at your level you still use haste and shadow veil, and that is okay. But that is something you want to stop sooner or later. Because in the end it reduce the amount of counterattacks you do and by that also decrease your overcharge gain and by that makes it harder to keep your spirit stance running. And less counter attacks means also dealing less damage. Btw you should also think about IW at least your rapier. And for your just any IW would do it.

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post Oct 12 2018, 00:10
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 06:06) *

Ah, well i didnt knew about that. Oh, i see. Well you have allready outlevel those by quite a bit. I am not sure how that loan equipment does work. But unless you soulfuse your equipment you will loose quite a bit of stats because of their low level compare to your own. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Oh, and you should really stop using featherweight charms. 1H does not really benefit from them. I mean i guess at your level you still use haste and shadow veil, and that is okay. But that is something you want to stop sooner or later. Because in the end it reduce the amount of counterattacks you do and by that also decrease your overcharge gain and by that makes it harder to keep your spirit stance running. And less counter attacks means also dealing less damage. Btw you should also think about IW at least your rapier. And for your just any IW would do it.


Thanks for all the tips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I put on the charm just cause... Just cause? I have like 100 of em and I went to do the Eternal Darkness arena on PFUDOR so thought fuck it, why not.

So I shouldn't be using haste and SV at some point?
I guess SV makes sense if I dodge and don't counter, but why haste?


Also, got this drop from the arena:

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of the Illithid

That's not bad... I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Yeah I asked ST-Ru if it's ok to IW the stuff he gave me (cause it's not mine I don't wanna mess around with it without permission) but I guess he's been away for a bit/not reading PMs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 12 2018, 00:30
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 12 2018, 00:10) *

So I shouldn't be using haste and SV at some point?


Yeah, i guess right now it keeps you alive in some arenas on high difficulty. So it is okay to use it for that. But sooner or later, you will doing just fine without them and when that happens you really shouldnt use them anylonger.
QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 12 2018, 00:10) *

I guess SV makes sense if I dodge and don't counter, but why haste?

In the end both have more or less the same effect, less counter attacks. And by lower overall damage you deal and by that slower clear speed overall.

QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 12 2018, 00:10) *

Also, got this drop from the arena:

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of the Illithid

That's not bad... I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Ehteral of Illithid? That is bad.

Your Mag rapier has damage base stat of 49.63 the Leg rapier has only 37.19. So the rapier you use right now has more damage.

QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Oct 12 2018, 00:10) *

Yeah I asked ST-Ru if it's ok to IW the stuff he gave me (cause it's not mine I don't wanna mess around with it without permission) but I guess he's been away for a bit/not reading PMs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Ehm, wait so this rapier is actually nothing but a loan you have to give back sooner or later? Okay, i take back what i did say about upgrade it. Stop that right now and keep everything you would otherwhise to upgrade that equipment to upgrade equipment that is actually your own.

So in that case i would even say use the Illithid. At least that one is your own. Even when it is not a good one. When i drop a Illithid rapier is just bazaar it right away.
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 12 2018, 07:30) *

Ehm, wait so this rapier is actually nothing but a loan you have to give back sooner or later? Okay, i take back what i did say about upgrade it. Stop that right now and keep everything you would otherwhise to upgrade that equipment to upgrade equipment that is actually your own.

So in that case i would even say use the Illithid. At least that one is your own. Even when it is not a good one. When i drop a Illithid rapier is just bazaar it right away.


Yeah I was thinking the same.
I wasn't planning on upgrading the loan rapier, just doing some basic IW on it. But just in case wanna hear back from ST-Ru first.
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