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Sep 28 2018, 22:25
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BlueWaterSplash
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Scremaz Forge Calculator says 12 Robust, 13 Vibrant, 25 Coruscating per stat, but I haven't done it yet so can't confirm.
I think I found an error in the Forge Calculator, or maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about yet again. Anyway, it seems that it does not add in the cost of the Mid-Grade Materials unless you fill in the cost for the Low-Grade Materials. Hmm okay this is not the full story either. Sometimes when I specify a few cheap Low and Mid Grade Materials the cost becomes like 800m credits.
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Sep 28 2018, 22:38
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 28 2018, 23:25)  I think I found an error in the Forge Calculator
Yep, 13 still robust
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Sep 28 2018, 22:45
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 28 2018, 22:25)  I think I found an error in the Forge Calculator, or maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about yet again. Anyway, it seems that it does not add in the cost of the Mid-Grade Materials unless you fill in the cost for the Low-Grade Materials. Hmm okay this is not the full story either. Sometimes when I specify a few cheap Low and Mid Grade Materials the cost becomes like 800m credits.
alredy reported and already fixed some days ago. if you're using v1.20, download new 1.21. if you're using 1.21, please give me more details
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Sep 28 2018, 23:32
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BlueWaterSplash
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I'm using version 1.21
The possible error is only on the cost-calc (multi) page
As a simple example try setting all upgrades to 0 except PMI to 5, PXP range High
Fill in any MG cost you want, it still shows 11.3k
Other combinations may work, like filling in LG and MG costs for lower quality equipment. Other times they did not work and either the cost does not add in, or suddenly became like 800m credits.
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Sep 29 2018, 00:49
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 28 2018, 23:32)  I'm using version 1.21
The possible error is only on the cost-calc (multi) page
As a simple example try setting all upgrades to 0 except PMI to 5, PXP range High
Fill in any MG cost you want, it still shows 11.3k Other combinations may work, like filling in LG and MG costs for lower quality equipment. Other times they did not work and either the cost does not add in, or suddenly became like 800m credits.
hmm.... nope. 500 for MG, it tells me 26.3k are needed. 400, 23.3k. 800M looks like the bug from the previous version, which had a multiplication where there should've been an addition - only on ADB though. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Sep 29 2018, 00:50
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Sep 29 2018, 10:43
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3534
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 29 2018, 06:49)  hmm.... nope. 500 for MG, it tells me 26.3k are needed. 400, 23.3k.
800M looks like the bug from the previous version, which had a multiplication where there should've been an addition - only on ADB though.
QUOTE(3534 @ Sep 11 2018, 18:09)  Well, i dont know the formula. But scremaz did made a excel spreadsheet for this. Here is the link. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4790550Oh, this is what I want. Thank you so much! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) --- @scremaz And does "Forge_Cost_Calculator_1.20.zip" have a new version? I found that : "Forge Cost Calculator_1.20.xlsx">"cost calc (multi)">"subtot">"N5" >"=(E5*F5+H5*$H$20 *I5*$I$20+J5*$J$20+K5*$K$20+..." Is it should be >"=(E5*F5+H5*$H$20 +I5*$I$20+J5*$J$20+K5*$K$20+..." ? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) N5~N17 are so on. Although there is script to do the calculation... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Is it this? Not only on ADB(N5), N5~N17 are same bugs... Actually, because I'm a mage and forge less, I'm still v1.20...sorry... This post has been edited by 3534: Sep 29 2018, 11:21
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Sep 29 2018, 11:32
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qwerty123321kutas
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Is it worth buying legendaries before 500? And follow up if its worth should i soullink em?
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Sep 29 2018, 12:17
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(3534 @ Sep 29 2018, 10:43)  Is it this? Not only on ADB(N5), N5~N17 are same bugs...
Actually, because I'm a mage and forge less, I'm still v1.20...sorry...
pretty sure i checked it, and only ADB had that issue...
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Sep 29 2018, 13:35
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(qwerty123321kutas @ Sep 29 2018, 12:32)  Is it worth buying legendaries before 500? And follow up if its worth should i soullink em?
It depends on what Legendary and why are you buying/soulfusing it, but yes, why not? Or you mean buying lvl 500 Legendary? This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Sep 29 2018, 13:37
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Sep 29 2018, 14:15
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3534
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 29 2018, 18:17)  pretty sure i checked it, and only ADB had that issue...
I checked v1.21... my bad... not "same" bugs, it's "similar" bugs. My poor English... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) let me try to explain it... "N5=(E5*F5+H5*$H$20 * I5*$I$20+J5*$J$20+K5*$K$20+L5*$L$20+M5*$M$20)/1000" it mean (if I understand it correctly): "subtot[kC]= ( OneBindCost*BindAmount + LGAmount*OneLGCost *MGAmount*OneMGCost + HGAmount*OneHGCost + RobustAmount*OneRobustCost + VibrantAmount*OneVibrantCost + CoruscAmount*OneCoruscCost ) /1000" It should've be: "subtot[kC]= ( OneBindCost*BindAmount + LGAmount*OneLGCost +MGAmount*OneMGCost + HGAmount*OneHGCost + RobustAmount*OneRobustCost + VibrantAmount*OneVibrantCost + CoruscAmount*OneCoruscCost ) /1000" N5~N17 are "similar" bugs. for example, N17=(E17*F17+H17*$H$20 * I17*$I$20+J17*$J$20+K17*$K$20+L17*$L$20+M17*$M$20)/1000 It should've be: N17=(E17*F17+H17*$H$20 + I17*$I$20+J17*$J$20+K17*$K$20+L17*$L$20+M17*$M$20)/1000
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Sep 29 2018, 16:35
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Scremaz
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damn! you're right. did a half-job for some reasons. thank you!
[edit]: aaand... updated!
This post has been edited by Scremaz: Sep 29 2018, 16:47
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Sep 29 2018, 21:34
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Kinights
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QUOTE(qwerty123321kutas @ Sep 29 2018, 06:32)  Is it worth buying legendaries before 500? And follow up if its worth should i soullink em?
Short answer, it depends. Is it an upgrade to the equipment you are currently using, like it has all primary attributes present, has a better prefix/suffix, or simply better stats overall? If so and it has an affordable price, sure. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If it's expensive, then you might hold on to your credits and keep looking for more options to appear. If it's not much of an upgrade, then unless you plan on heavily upgrading the equipment, the difference in stats shouldn't matter so much until you find something better to settle on. And about soulfusing, if you have enough fragments and have no intent on reselling the equipment later, then sure. You can still salvage soulfused equipment later on if you used expensive materials on it, so there's not many downsides other than losing the option to trade it. This post has been edited by Kinights: Sep 29 2018, 21:38
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Sep 29 2018, 21:47
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mesozoico
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Hi, I use my phone to play HV, is there a way to get an equipment's link in Android?
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Sep 30 2018, 01:04
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qwerty123321kutas
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Sep 29 2018, 13:35)  It depends on what Legendary and why are you buying/soulfusing it, but yes, why not? Or you mean buying lvl 500 Legendary?
I mean legendaries within my soullink range, statwise are rather good but fixes arent what im aiming for, should i go for it or wait till i find something aimed directly at my spec?
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Sep 30 2018, 01:48
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(qwerty123321kutas @ Sep 30 2018, 02:04)  I mean legendaries within my soullink range, statwise are rather good but fixes arent what im aiming for, should i go for it or wait till i find something aimed directly at my spec?
Depends on price and fixes you want (for example savage is overrated, but charged/radiant is necessary for good build)
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Sep 30 2018, 03:54
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Maharid
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I'm upgrading my Shield just now and i can confirm that there is the need for 13 Robust, 12 Vibrant and 25 Coruscating Catalyst for each upgrade (Legendary Shield).
This post has been edited by Maharid: Sep 30 2018, 05:19
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Sep 30 2018, 06:53
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VawX
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QUOTE(qwerty123321kutas @ Sep 30 2018, 06:04)  I mean legendaries within my soullink range, statwise are rather good but fixes arent what im aiming for, should i go for it or wait till i find something aimed directly at my spec?
It's definitely worth it, getting somewhat decent legendaries before you change it to better late game item are necessary spending in my opinion mmm... And you won't really use that much soul fragment so it's just better if you start using it (and keep collecting it since RE is one of the best source of income and exp) mmm... But you might want to balance it with "Farming" upgrade both from training and perks, so try to hunt some good equipments that you'll use for a long time (I suggest you join the auction every week) while also upgrading your training mmm...
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Sep 30 2018, 09:54
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KitsuneAbby
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Quick questions for experienced mages. 1) IIRC, my prof factor should idally be at least 0.67. Do I remember right? If so, why that value? 2) To achieve that prof factor, if I go for a 3 phase + 2 cotton setup, which equipment piece should be besides my peerless cotton robe? The cap, the gloves or the shoes? 3) In order to blast my way through arenas, imperil elemental style, considering that I don't really need cast speed, I should chose a Frugal Cotton, right?
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Sep 30 2018, 10:21
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Sad Penguin
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 30 2018, 07:54)  Quick questions for experienced mages. 1) IIRC, my prof factor should idally be at least 0.67. Do I remember right? If so, why that value? 2) To achieve that prof factor, if I go for a 3 phase + 2 cotton setup, which equipment piece should be besides my peerless cotton robe? The cap, the gloves or the shoes? 3) In order to blast my way through arenas, imperil elemental style, considering that I don't really need cast speed, I should chose a Frugal Cotton, right?
I am not very experienced but still: 2) You should find the best slot which will reduce you EDB the least in such order: shoes>gloves>cap>pants>robe. It depends on your current base prof, not some ideal prof factor at lv500 with 600 base prof forged50 etc. 3) Frugal is better than plain cotton anyway, through the price should be more or less the same unless with a peerless stat And for 1): QUOTE(cirrux @ Sep 20 2017, 12:42)  This is an approximation of the elemental mitigations of monsters credits to someone else (pm me if you want the credit/removed): (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/076qbk4.png) Mages have the most problems killing monsters with a lot of hp - Arthropod, Dragonkin, Giant, Undead. Wind has lower elemental mitigation for dragonkin. Thus it has a slight advantage. Side note: wind seems to recently have less competition for its charged pieces. It'd still be best for you to base your element on whichever one you can get a good staff for. Stats to look out for: mdb, edb, cr, dep prof, ele prof, in that order QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 20 2017, 16:04)  That's why you get 0.68+ prof factor so you can reduce the monsters mitigation by 68, leaving all elements pretty much equal (and now there are even 2 days of the week where the mitigation is further reduced).
This post has been edited by Lostwizard: Sep 30 2018, 10:26
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Sep 30 2018, 10:51
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 30 2018, 15:54)  Quick questions for experienced mages. 1) IIRC, my prof factor should idally be at least 0.67. Do I remember right? If so, why that value? 2) To achieve that prof factor, if I go for a 3 phase + 2 cotton setup, which equipment piece should be besides my peerless cotton robe? The cap, the gloves or the shoes? 3) In order to blast my way through arenas, imperil elemental style, considering that I don't really need cast speed, I should chose a Frugal Cotton, right?
Advantage for elemental. Only shoes are needed to fulfill the prof requirement. Or gloves. 4.1 times edb to 4.2 times edb, not a significant difference.4 phases+ cotton Shoes=Highest edb combination I saw you bid on a robe. Unfornately it’s useless. I suggest gloves, prof fully upgraded, or shoes if you have high assimilatiors or high profs already. Should be easy to get the 0.68 I’d say 2~3 charged+ 4spellweavers on staff, making yourself cast less cures, comfortably finishing Arenas. In fact, frugal does nothing because elementals cast the least mana. As soon as you get the 0.68, mana elixirs should never be needed.
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