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Strength     399 +12 +284     Strength     408 +12 +406
Dexterity    399 +15 +360     Dexterity    408 +15 +403
Agility      399 +15 +325     Agility      250 +15  +45
Endurance    399  +8 +185     Endurance    408  +8 +294
Intelligence 250 +14   +0     Intelligence 220 +14   +0
Wisdom       250 +13   +0     Wisdom       250 +13   +0

  16895 Health Points           20044 Health Points
   1325 Magic Points             1277 Magic Points
    +15 Magic Regen               +15 Magic Regen
    666 Spirit Points            1141 Spirit Points
     +6 Spirit Regen               +6 Spirit Regen

MP Ability training is identical, so why does my DW persona have more Magic Points than my 1H persona? According to the wiki, MP should calculate only from Wisdom.

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Strength     399 +12 +284     Strength     408 +12 +406
Dexterity    399 +15 +360     Dexterity    408 +15 +403
Agility      399 +15 +325     Agility      250 +15  +45
Endurance    399  +8 +185     Endurance    408  +8 +294
Intelligence 250 +14   +0     Intelligence 220 +14   +0
Wisdom       250 +13   +0     Wisdom       250 +13   +0

  16895 Health Points           20044 Health Points
   1325 Magic Points             1277 Magic Points
    +15 Magic Regen               +15 Magic Regen
    666 Spirit Points            1141 Spirit Points
     +6 Spirit Regen               +6 Spirit Regen

MP Ability training is identical, so why does my DW persona have more Magic Points than my 1H persona? According to the wiki, MP should calculate only from Wisdom.

are they both heavy or one light one heavy? since light armor have hp/mp abilities while heavy only have hp.

Oh yeah, that must be it. Thanks!

Right, yes.

Formulas are in the script, HV utils. sssss2 has done a lot of testing and calculating, I don't know if he has en excel. HV utils works as a calculator if you have the equips. Otherwise, Scremaz has a lot of calculators. Fun thing is, for decision between equip or hath perk, you don't need the exact total figures. Just the difference a change will make. That's far easier to calculate. Just watch the effect of an equip (unequip/eqpuip). Then if an upgrade would be 10% higher in magic score of that equip alone, then the effect of the upgraded equip will be +10% of the current equip effect.

Thank you so much! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I want to get a forecast before I do something (before I have the equips)... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
So I maybe need to ask help from Scremaz...? @Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I saw some Excel spreadsheets in Scremaz's signature,
but I don't know which is for doing this job. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

"Forge Optimizer v1.20" looks seem to be, but:

These spreadsheets are meant to be used to calculate the optimal distribution of upgrades - according to stat boosts.
Which means, what's the best way to sink your materials.
They don't (cannot) say anything about the effect on the whole set.

I wonder how fast mildly forged 5 slaughter 1h-heavy could clear grindfest.

I'm hovering around 27k turns, but that's with unforged 3 mag slaughter gears (sub 10k ADB).
I saw Uncle stu did it on around 26k turns (but I heard he spec turtle).

any other data on this matter? or most 1h-heavy simply opt out clearing the grindfest entirely as it's really long and tiring?

I just wants to know if it's somehow possible to push it to near 1.5 hours for 1h (maybe around 12k turns clear time), as the current 2.5-3hours+ is simply too long for one korean variety show episode, if it's 1.5 hours then it will be more or less perfect lol.

Equipments are always minor improvements. There's no way you can reach twice+ clear speed. You can expect 20k if you heavily forge good legendary armors, otherwise no. One whose armors fully forged
You'd better find some ways to improve your network because 1h should hit 2.8 t/s or even 3.0+t/s.
ALSO, once you get mediocre matching legendary equipments and some sort of forging, DDs become much more beneficial than wasting credits on so-called end-game equipments.

"Forge Optimizer v1.20" looks seem to be, but:

These spreadsheets are meant to be used to calculate the optimal distribution of upgrades - according to stat boosts.
Which means, what's the best way to sink your materials.
They don't (cannot) say anything about the effect on the whole set.

yep. building a stat calculator is a thing i understood how to do efficiently only a while after, when i verified all formulas on wiki were correct. i posted a very early stage of those, but no feedbacks, btw.

either way, even assuming they work, integrating them with forge optimizers (and even more with forge cost calculators) would be absolute nightmare to do with excel, so no chance from me in the foreseeable future.


if someone wants to study my sheets to improve them, feel free to ask for an unlocked version.

yep. building a stat calculator is a thing i understood how to do efficiently only a while after, when i verified all formulas on wiki were correct. i posted a very early stage of those, but no feedbacks, btw.

either way, even assuming they work, integrating them with forge optimizers (and even more with forge cost calculators) would be absolute nightmare to do with excel, so no chance from me in the foreseeable future.
if someone wants to study my sheets to improve them, feel free to ask for an unlocked version.

"Absolute nightmare", I agree with you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

And may I have those sheets? (post it here?)
Though I don't think I can improve them... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Thank you very much~!

Equipments are always minor improvements. There's no way you can reach twice+ clear speed. You can expect 20k if you heavily forge good legendary armors, otherwise no. One whose armors fully forged
You'd better find some ways to improve your network because 1h should hit 2.8 t/s or even 3.0+t/s.
ALSO, once you get mediocre matching legendary equipments and some sort of forging, DDs become much more beneficial than wasting credits on so-called end-game equipments.

so 18k-ish is the expected best for 1h-heavy could be pushed to? maybe 17-16k with the DDs?

Yeah I could do 3.2t/s but that's without watching anything - which somewhat dismissing the purpose for me, I guess.
2.5 t/s is the more conservative bar for me to play + enjoying random shows.

oh well, It's better to work on the dark mage set then... I could always watch one new episode then fill the rest rewatching old show in the mean time.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Sep 27 2018, 16:06

How much a Fine Dagger is worth now?

How much a Fine Dagger is worth now?

it depends. link?

I saw Uncle stu did it on around 26k turns (but I heard he spec turtle).

He did it already?

any other data on this matter? or most 1h-heavy simply opt out clearing the grindfest entirely as it's really long and tiring?

I just wants to know if it's somehow possible to push it to near 1.5 hours for 1h (maybe around 12k turns clear time), as the current 2.5-3hours+ is simply too long for one korean variety show episode, if it's 1.5 hours then it will be more or less perfect lol.

Look at my sign. Guess how many turns it takes me to do 1 full PFest (spoiler: not 12k). Hell, hitting 12k turns is hard enough with a mage set already.

I'm hovering around 27k turns, but that's with unforged 3 mag slaughter gears (sub 10k ADB).
I saw Uncle stu did it on around 26k turns (but I heard he spec turtle).

What do you mean when you say that Uncle Stu spec turtle?

This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Sep 28 2018, 03:19

He did it already?
Look at my sign. Guess how many turns it takes me to do 1 full PFest (spoiler: not 12k). Hell, hitting 12k turns is hard enough with a mage set already.

maybe 15k~16k turns?

I don't think the problem for mages is speed, but rather defensive forging that can support mages to deep PFDfest. As far as I know, wind/elec mages whose charged phases are forged to on average 25~30, with DD1, could finish a GF in 8000+ turns. 12k is ppl exaggerated.

This post has been edited by -vincento-: Sep 28 2018, 03:31

12k turns mage set sounds even worse than a cheap 1h mage which can already finish GF x20 in ~13k.

I did it! Finish PFUDOR GF with my 1H-Mage-Set.

Turns and Speed


Costs:


Bad Equipments:
Peerless Shocking Wakizashi of the Battlecaster from mklopp
Legendary Agile Buckler of the Battlecaster from Ckyc
Magnificent Radiant Phase Cap of Mjolnir
Magnificent Radiant Phase Robe of Mjolnir
Legendary Charged Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist
Magnificent Radiant Phase Pants of Mjolnir
Magnificent Radiant Phase Shoes of Mjolnir

Nimble waki > Buckler of Barrier otherwise you will have mana issues too. I can clear 1h pfest in just over 10k~ turns with DD V.

This post has been edited by Lostwizard: Sep 28 2018, 05:51

Got mana issues with 1H to clear PFFEST? Use, the, damn, feathers.

Got mana issues with 1H to clear PFFEST? Use, the, damn, feathers.

I guess kyouri means 1H mage since they were discussing whether 1H mage should use OFC or not.

This post has been edited by Lostwizard: Sep 28 2018, 10:09

If i have a Legendary Onyx Force Shield of Protection, how many Robust, Vibrating and Coruscating Catalyst i need to fully upgrade it?

It will have 7 Stats of 50 levels starting with Robust but i don't remember when it will become Vibrating and Coruscating.

That because i'm about to get a new shield and i want to upgrade it fast.

If i have a Legendary Onyx Force Shield of Protection, how many Robust, Vibrating and Coruscating Catalyst i need to fully upgrade it?

It will have 7 Stats of 50 levels starting with Robust but i don't remember when it will become Vibrating and Coruscating.

That because i'm about to get a new shield and i want to upgrade it fast.

That's a good question for wiki update. Vibrating starts at 14/50 (checked more gear) and 28/100? (after 40 for sure) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Sep 28 2018, 16:30

Last time i wanted to take note but i forgot, i will make a buy for tomorrow and if no one know i try to keep the numbers to update the wiki.

Question for 1h mage - is legendary phase preferred over radiant magnificent in general? I know for regular mage legendary phase would be better (given higher MDB from staff so less impact from radiant and also better defensive stats).