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Sep 23 2018, 14:09
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Scremaz
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further details may be in the japanese thread, but i cannot read it, so...
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Sep 23 2018, 16:46
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3534
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QUOTE(Piscolabis @ Sep 22 2018, 18:16)  Not worth it since it has very low EDB(and its other stats arent good either), which means that you will likely replace it soon.
QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Sep 22 2018, 19:05)  Elemental gear isn't pricey, so I'd look for better one, but rad robes are rare so it might take some time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) thank you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Sep 24 2018, 02:49
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william1657
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I've got a couple of Auto-Cast questions:
How does Auto-Cast Upkeep work with decimals? Does it actually deduct that decimal amount from your MP behind the scenes or does it just round?
What would be the best choice for my third AC slot? I've got Protection and Spark of Life on right now, but I'm not sure whether to pick Haste or Shadow Veil as my third.
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Sep 24 2018, 02:51
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 02:49)  What would be the best choice for my third AC slot? I've got Protection and Spark of Life on right now, but I'm not sure whether to pick Haste or Shadow Veil as my third.
What do you even play? And imo SoL is nothing but wasting of a slot when you dont play as mage.
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Sep 24 2018, 02:54
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 20:51)  What do you even play? And imo SoL is nothing but wasting of a slot when you dont play as mage.
I disagree. SoL is very important for DW and 2H for example, and the upkeep cost isn't that much. I also have IA5 though so....
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Sep 24 2018, 02:56
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Sep 24 2018, 02:54)  I disagree. SoL is very important for DW and 2H for example,
Fine as long as you dont suggest use it as 1H i wont argue with that.
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Sep 24 2018, 03:17
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william1657
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 17:51)  What do you even play? And imo SoL is nothing but wasting of a slot when you dont play as mage.
Sword and Shield with full plate. I mostly play random encounters on IWBTH. SoL usually doesn't matter, but every so often they crit a spirit attack and take off all my HP at once, so it is worth it for those times. When I play the Arenas or IW then I play on Normal and just use Protection with no other AC spells. This post has been edited by william1657: Sep 24 2018, 03:17
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Sep 24 2018, 03:21
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 08:49)  What would be the best choice for my third AC slot? I've got Protection and Spark of Life on right now, but I'm not sure whether to pick Haste or Shadow Veil as my third.
Usually spirit shield, Sol and Protection for the first three slots. Since your spirit shield isn't maxed yet, haste is also good. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 24 2018, 08:51)  What do you even play? And imo SoL is nothing but wasting of a slot when you dont play as mage.
So you are suggesting that a Lv249 player should abandon SoL? It's not a topic worth been repeatedly discussed.
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Sep 24 2018, 03:29
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:17)  Sword and Shield with full plate. Aka 1H. Using SoL as 1H is nothing but a waste of a good slot. And Imo in the end all you "should" need in those slots is Protection and Spirit Shield. "Should" because at your level and with your equipment i admit it is mostly necessary to use haste and shadow veil. At least when you actually want to play on the highest difficulty that is possible for you. I really suggest to upgrade your equipment at least up to 5. QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:17)  I mostly play random encounters on IWBTH. SoL usually doesn't matter, but every so often they crit a spirit attack and take off all my HP at once, so it is worth it for those times.
Spirit shield should keep you alive together with the allready suggested upgrade of your equipment. And to avoid those crits you could use weaken on all of them. For an RE it is a good idea, i did it until i was strong enough to just tank all attacks an RE could come up with and i never died during them. QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:17)  When I play the Arenas or IW then I play on Normal and just use Protection with no other AC spells.
When you are able to survive at least most of the time an IWTBH RE you should be able to play at least arenas on hell. Any lower difficulty is imo really not recommended. You will see that your income will really increase by that. I am just not sure what you mean by AC spell. There are four support spells 1H should use all the time. Protection, Spirit Shield, Regen and Heartseeker. QUOTE(-vincento- @ Sep 24 2018, 03:21)  So you are suggesting that a Lv249 player should abandon SoL? It's not a topic worth been repeatedly discussed.
Abandon? No. Not even use in the first place. I didnt need SoL at 249. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Sep 24 2018, 03:32
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Sep 24 2018, 03:31
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PersonaFan08
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Why didn't you need spark of life at level 249, Uncle Stu?
This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Sep 24 2018, 03:36
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Sep 24 2018, 03:44
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:31)  Why didn't you need spark of life at level 249, Uncle Stu?
Because i made sure in another way that i wouldnt die of course. Like i didnt play on the highest difficulty until i was ready for it. I used weaken in RE to prevent the monster from critting me. I upgraded my equipment as good as i could. And today the game is even easier as it was when i was 249. So i really cant see any reason to suggest a 1H player to use SoL. Because i KNOW a 1H player dont need it. And because i cant be sure the same way about SoL for 2H and DW i didnt argue against the post from Drksrpnt. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Sep 24 2018, 03:44
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Sep 24 2018, 03:45
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william1657
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 18:29)  I really suggest to upgrade your equipment at least up to 5.
What do you mean "up to 5"? QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 18:29)  I am just not sure what you mean by AC spell.
Auto-Cast spell. I was only spending one of my two Auto-Cast slots while playing on Normal and I was spending it on Protection. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 18:29)  There are four support spells 1H should use all the time. Protection, Spirit Shield, Regen and Heartseeker.
Heartseeker? Really? That uses up half my MP for at best an 8% damage boost for critical hits for 80 turns. I will try out Spirit Shield though. I didn't notice when I unlocked it, so I never really thought about it until now.
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Sep 24 2018, 03:57
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:45)  What do you mean "up to 5"?
Everything to five. Because the first five upgrades dont cost any bindings so you should be able to afford them quite easy and they are those uprades who gives you the biggest bonus. So they are the most cost-effective one and should allways be done. QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:45)  Auto-Cast spell.
Well, i guess it was just too obvious. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:45)  I was only spending one of my two Auto-Cast slots while playing on Normal and I was spending it on Protection.
I would suggest to use the second one on Spirit Shield. QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:45)  Heartseeker? Really? That uses up half my MP for at best an 8% damage boost for critical hits for 80 turns.
Hm? Heartseeker increase your damage by 25% and crit chance by 10%. So i guess you are talking about the "better heartseeker" ability. Which is just a bonus. But half of your MP? Are you absolute sure? How much interference do you have? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 03:45)  I will try out Spirit Shield though. I didn't notice when I unlocked it, so I never really thought about it until now.
You will like it. Even when it will feel like it eats your spirit points away at lower levels. But that will be better after you have upgrade your armor to increase your PM and MM. And by reaching higher level to upgrade it with the abilites.
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Sep 24 2018, 03:58
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BlueWaterSplash
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Because the game has been much easier for low level players over the past year, this means they should play at PFUDOR starting at level 150~200 or maybe even down to level 1. Once you can learn it, I think Spark of Life is essential to survive until you become high level. Even after becoming medium to high level, Spark of Life is still needed if you either don't use Spirit Shield (which some people don't like) or fight in the deepest levels of IW/Grindfest or wear too much Slaughter armor at low level.
I fought the easier arenas at IWBTH and PFUDOR when I was level 1, and this was back in the old hard version. I died a lot.
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Sep 24 2018, 04:08
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 24 2018, 03:58)  I fought the easier arenas at IWBTH and PFUDOR when I was level 1, and this was back in the old hard version. I died a lot.
The version i was talking about didnt even had PFUDOR. And no i would never suggest play everything on PFUDOR just because. When you die a lot and actually need SoL to keep yourself alive all i have say to you is that 
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Sep 24 2018, 04:17
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william1657
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 18:57)  Everything to five. Because the first five upgrades dont cost any bindings so you should be able to afford them quite easy and they are those uprades who gives you the biggest bonus. So they are the most cost-effective one and should allways be done.
Oh! You meant upgrade at the Forge! I thought you meant upgrade as in replace the equipment with better equipment. This makes sense to me now. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 18:57)  Hm? Heartseeker increase your damage by 25% and crit chance by 10%. So i guess you are talking about the "better heartseeker" ability. Which is just a bonus. I absolutely was only looking at "Better Heartseeker". My bad. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 18:57)  But half of your MP? Are you absolute sure? How much interference do you have? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) 40% actually. 366/916. 120 points of interference means I pay 160% for spells.
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Sep 24 2018, 04:23
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sickentide
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so instead of playing on the highest difficulty you can manage with SoL you should lower the difficulty and miss out on income? not using SoL when it's essentially free once you have IA3, even if it's just in case of extremely unlikely circumstances, seems like a silly thing to do to me, speaking as someone who has cleared PFfest with a longsword
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Sep 24 2018, 04:25
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 04:17)  Oh! You meant upgrade at the Forge! I thought you meant upgrade as in replace the equipment with better equipment.
Well in the end you should of course also keep your eyes open for better equipment. But forging your equipment is at your level most of the time much easier. And it will give you allready some forge XP you will be happy later on. And i would even say forge your parry and your block as much as you can. QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 04:17)  I absolutely was only looking at "Better Heartseeker". My bad.
These things happen. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(william1657 @ Sep 24 2018, 04:17)  40% actually. 366/916. 120 points of interference means I pay 160% for spells.
Hm, that is less interference as i have. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Well i suggest to use heartseeker at least when you have a channeling waiting for you and if there is none channeling just cast it with Spirit Stance active. That should reduce the overall mana cost. QUOTE(sickentide @ Sep 24 2018, 04:23)  so instead of playing on the highest difficulty you can manage with SoL you should lower the difficulty and miss out on income? not using SoL when it's essentially free once you have IA3, even if it's just in case of extremely unlikely circumstances, seems like a silly thing to do to me, speaking as someone who has cleared PFfest with a longsword
Manage? When you actually need it to survive it will trigger more than once and it will be also slow. Yeah, sounds like a lot of fun feeling weak, fragile and slow for just getting a few credits more. I mean for me it would not make any sense. But hey, all the mage players would swear blindly that using SoL is the way to do it. I mean what does uncle stu actually know? He dont even use it. He also dont have a full Slaughter set. So better he should keep his mouth shut because we are right and he is WRONG. Fine. I allready regret that i was stupid enough to return into this topic. I am so so sorry. It wont happen again. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Sep 24 2018, 04:32
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Sep 24 2018, 04:44
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 24 2018, 04:25)  So better he should keep his mouth shut because we are right and he is WRONG.
i wouldn't put it quite so harshly. nothing wrong with different people having different points of view
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Sep 24 2018, 05:10
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PersonaFan08
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 23 2018, 18:58)  Because the game has been much easier for low level players over the past year, this means they should play at PFUDOR starting at level 150~200 or maybe even down to level 1.
No, they shouldn't. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 23 2018, 19:08)  The version i was talking about didnt even had PFUDOR. And no i would never suggest play everything on PFUDOR just because. When you die a lot and actually need SoL to keep yourself alive all i have say to you is that  I completely agree with you about that. This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Sep 24 2018, 05:25
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