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post Sep 17 2018, 16:56
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QUOTE(afire1 @ Sep 17 2018, 17:23) *

about shield, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/41086482/1974fb891c is good for 1h or higher block chance better?


Really bad, -106% block and -165% parry mag range + agile for 1H is not recommended
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post Sep 17 2018, 17:32
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post Sep 17 2018, 17:54
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post Sep 18 2018, 01:51
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I'm a 2H heavy and I use Protection, Regen and Spark of Life.

I've started to get killed more frequently and it seems to mostly be by single powerful attacks. Most of the time the monsters don't do much damage, but then suddenly reduce my HP to zero and Spark of Life triggers.

I was looking at Haste, Shadow Veil, Absorb and Stronger Spirit supportive abilities. Shadow Veil looks good as it increases the chance of evading while Stronger Spirit might nullify the powerful attacks.

Which supportive spells is it best to use as a 2H heavy?
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post Sep 18 2018, 02:15
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QUOTE(Lord Frith @ Sep 18 2018, 02:51) *

Which supportive spells is it best to use as a 2H heavy?


You need spirit shield-stronger spirit too (and 2H works better with light armor)
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post Sep 18 2018, 02:59
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Sep 18 2018, 01:15) *

You need spirit shield-stronger spirit too

Thanks for the advice. I gave Sprit Shield a try but it was a lot less useful than I expected. It looks like I'd incorrectly identified the problem and powerful attacks are less of an issue than I thought.

I reset my abilities and gave Shadow Veil a try and that makes a hell of a difference. I'll definitely keep using that.

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(and 2H works better with light armor)

Oh, I didn't know that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I don't have any light armour so I'll stick with what I'm using until I change to mage.
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post Sep 18 2018, 03:26
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QUOTE(Lord Frith @ Sep 18 2018, 07:59) *

Thanks for the advice. I gave Sprit Shield a try but it was a lot less useful than I expected. It looks like I'd incorrectly identified the problem and powerful attacks are less of an issue than I thought.

I reset my abilities and gave Shadow Veil a try and that makes a hell of a difference. I'll definitely keep using that.
Oh, I didn't know that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I don't have any light armour so I'll stick with what I'm using until I change to mage.


Spirit shield is pretty much a must for all melee build, haste also pretty good for 2H and DW, but not so much for 1H mmm...
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post Sep 18 2018, 03:42
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QUOTE(VawX @ Sep 18 2018, 02:26) *

Spirit shield is pretty much a must for all melee build, haste also pretty good for 2H and DW, but not so much for 1H mmm...

Thanks for the advice. I'll train some ability points and give Haste a try. I might also train some more ability points for Spirit Shield so it's available if I need it.

I didn't notice that much difference with Spirit Shield, but I can't believe how much of a difference Shadow Veil makes. It's fantastic.
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post Sep 18 2018, 06:10
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post Sep 18 2018, 06:52
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Just use spirit shield after lv 285 when you already max it, or when you can do the last 3 arenas. In addition, if you want to do last 3 arenas, don't use 2H, it will take ages to kill a single boss.
P/s: Between haste and shadow veil better go with Haste. The 50% increase in speed mean that monsters will have reduce 50% damage, and all of your buff will last 50% longer too.

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post Sep 18 2018, 07:26
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QUOTE(Lord Frith @ Sep 18 2018, 08:42) *

Thanks for the advice. I'll train some ability points and give Haste a try. I might also train some more ability points for Spirit Shield so it's available if I need it.

I didn't notice that much difference with Spirit Shield, but I can't believe how much of a difference Shadow Veil makes. It's fantastic.


For 2H the buff you really need are probably Haste, Regen and Protection, after that Spirit Shield and Heartseeker will be very nice, Shadow Veil is not bad too if you want.

As for Spark of Life, the effect is nice but it's a bit hard to use, not the most reliable and the buff is pretty short.

I suggest you change into 1H if you want easy mode (I also use 2H before changing into 1H in mid 200s), or at least if you want to stay using 2H, try getting good Light Armor since 2H the stat that you need to survive is more of evasion rather than tanking it with mitigation (1H has both Block and Parry) mmm...
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post Sep 18 2018, 08:14
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I'm gonna ask people do help me do math.

Approximately what is the max attack speed (outside of battle) with full peerless agile shade and two peerless wakis of swiftness with 5 swift strike?

I guess this isn't counting Agility PAB but still.
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post Sep 18 2018, 09:08
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Sep 18 2018, 15:14) *

I'm gonna ask people do help me do math.

Approximately what is the max attack speed (outside of battle) with full peerless agile shade and two peerless wakis of swiftness with 5 swift strike?

I guess this isn't counting Agility PAB but still.



agi bonus = max 10%
prof bonus = 600*0.025% = 15%
main hand = 28.19% Peerless Arctic Wakizashi of Swiftness (base pmax 18.57% + 1.92%*5 = 28.17%)
off hand = 28.19%
helmet = 3.69%
breastplate = 4.31%
gauntlets = 3.4%
leggings = 4.03%
boots = 3.06%
burden penalty = 0

1 - (1-0.1) * (1-0.15) * (1-0.2819) * (1-0.2819) * (1-0.0369) * (1-0.0431) * (1-0.034) * (1-0.0403) * (1-0.0306)
= 1 - 0.32672687779212974782702276878
= 0.67327312220787025217297723122

67.3%

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post Sep 18 2018, 09:31
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Sep 18 2018, 03:08) *

agi bonus = max 10%
prof bonus = 600*0.025% = 15%
main hand = 28.19% Peerless Arctic Wakizashi of Swiftness (base pmax 18.57% + 1.92%*5 = 28.17%)
off hand = 28.19%
helmet = 3.69%
breastplate = 4.31%
gauntlets = 3.4%
leggings = 4.03%
boots = 3.06%
burden penalty = 0

1 - (1-0.1) * (1-0.15) * (1-0.2819) * (1-0.2819) * (1-0.0369) * (1-0.0431) * (1-0.034) * (1-0.0403) * (1-0.0306)
= 1 - 0.32672687779212974782702276878
= 0.67327312220787025217297723122

67.3%


That's a lot of attack speed. Thanks.
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post Sep 18 2018, 09:38
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QUOTE(Snowfoxrb @ Sep 18 2018, 05:52) *

Just use spirit shield after lv 285 when you already max it, or when you can do the last 3 arenas. In addition, if you want to do last 3 arenas, don't use 2H, it will take ages to kill a single boss.
P/s: Between haste and shadow veil better go with Haste. The 50% increase in speed mean that monsters will have reduce 50% damage, and all of your buff will last 50% longer too.

It sounds like Haste would be good. I'll give it a try tomorrow once I've trained enough Ability Points. Thanks for the advice.

QUOTE(VawX @ Sep 18 2018, 06:26) *

For 2H the buff you really need are probably Haste, Regen and Protection, after that Spirit Shield and Heartseeker will be very nice, Shadow Veil is not bad too if you want.

As for Spark of Life, the effect is nice but it's a bit hard to use, not the most reliable and the buff is pretty short.

I suggest you change into 1H if you want easy mode (I also use 2H before changing into 1H in mid 200s), or at least if you want to stay using 2H, try getting good Light Armor since 2H the stat that you need to survive is more of evasion rather than tanking it with mitigation (1H has both Block and Parry) mmm...

Spark of Life saves me a lot, but I often end up dead when I'm holding the key down and don't release it fast enough when it triggers. I wish there was a pop-up message after it triggers that you had to close before the battle continued.

I used 1H initially but I seem to recall it only attacks one enemy at a time so it took ages to clear the rounds. It sounds like I should have gone with light armour with 2H, but I should be able to make it to level 300 with the heavy armour.
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post Sep 18 2018, 09:40
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QUOTE(Lord Frith @ Sep 18 2018, 03:38) *

It sounds like Haste would be good. I'll give it a try tomorrow once I've trained enough Ability Points. Thanks for the advice.
Spark of Life saves me a lot, but I often end up dead when I'm holding the key down and don't release it fast enough when it triggers. I wish there was a pop-up message after it triggers that you had to close before the battle continued.

I used 1H initially but I seem to recall it only attacks one enemy at a time so it took ages to clear the rounds. It sounds like I should have gone with light armour with 2H, but I should be able to make it to level 300 with the heavy armour.


Using Monsterbation helps a lot with Spark of Life. It automatically stops your hovers when it triggers. It's saved me multiple times.

1H only attacks one enemy at a time buuuuut with a shield it makes enemies stun themselves which helps iimmensely with survival, which is gonna be your main issue.
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post Sep 18 2018, 12:05
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You should give 1H a try, because at lv 280 1H is already surpass 2H in clearing speed (my experience).
At low lv you can't keep spirit stance on 1H because your spirit is too low, but at lv 280 you can keep spirit stance all the time ( It's mean 100% bonus dame compare to 2H). Find some shield with more than 35% block and a good rapier, and you will have a easy time grinning 1 higher difficult than your 2H.
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post Sep 18 2018, 13:08
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QUOTE(Lord Frith @ Sep 18 2018, 14:38) *
I used 1H initially but I seem to recall it only attacks one enemy at a time so it took ages to clear the rounds. It sounds like I should have gone with light armour with 2H, but I should be able to make it to level 300 with the heavy armour.


you could fire all buff and debuff but it wouldn't fix the underlying problem that 2h heavy simply don't have enough decent damage avoidance mechanic to survive on highest level difficulty.
so if 1h takes ages to clear the rounds, 2h would take eternity to clear the fight, because you'll generally die somewhere along the rounds, and it will get worse the higher your level is as you'll encounter monsters with higher power level.

In higher level, survivability is more affordable and reliable than firepower, until you could build big enough gun of course - that's going mage.

yes you could make it to level 300 with 2h heavy, actually to 500 with 2h heavy is possible, simply decrease the difficulty, but that will cosmically increase average time to level up or getting good drops, compared to, I don't know, using slow but sure 1h-heavy?

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post Sep 18 2018, 15:17
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Sep 18 2018, 08:40) *
Using Monsterbation helps a lot with Spark of Life. It automatically stops your hovers when it triggers. It's saved me multiple times.

1H only attacks one enemy at a time buuuuut with a shield it makes enemies stun themselves which helps iimmensely with survival, which is gonna be your main issue.
Thanks, I might try Monsterbation. Even if I don't die, I usually end up triggering Spark of Life at least twice before I release the key, so my spirit gate gets reduced to nothing. It would be good if I could avoid that.

BTW, I saw the karma you left on my post in the Ponyverse thread. My post had to be removed from the thread because I'm apparently too toxic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) People are no fun these days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

All I wanted was a few summary executions. I don't think I was being unreasonable (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE(Snowfoxrb @ Sep 18 2018, 11:05) *
You should give 1H a try, because at lv 280 1H is already surpass 2H in clearing speed (my experience).
At low lv you can't keep spirit stance on 1H because your spirit is too low, but at lv 280 you can keep spirit stance all the time ( It's mean 100% bonus dame compare to 2H). Find some shield with more than 35% block and a good rapier, and you will have a easy time grinning 1 higher difficult than your 2H.
I'd try, but all the equipment in the WTS thread seems to be level 400+ so I can't use it. I'm not sure where equipment comes from now that you can't buy it off high level players. The equipment I use is from ST-Ru's equipment loan service. The origins of high quality equipment are a great mystery to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Sep 18 2018, 12:08) *
you could fire all buff and debuff but it wouldn't fix the underlying problem that 2h heavy simply don't have enough decent damage avoidance mechanic to survive on highest level difficulty.
so if 1h takes ages to clear the rounds, 2h would take eternity to clear the fight, because you'll generally die somewhere along the rounds, and it will get worse the higher your level is as you'll encounter monsters with higher power level.
Yeah, what you describe is exactly what's happening. I can't complete the arena challenges on Nintendo any more. I'm now playing on IWBTH and fleeing once there are more than five monsters in a round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It works pretty well at the moment. I get lots of EXP from the easy rounds that I can clear fast. It's probably not viable in the long term, but it should get me to level 300.
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post Sep 18 2018, 16:05
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Sep 18 2018, 09:31) *

That's a lot of attack speed. Thanks.

mind you, it's with 600 prof and with all stat scaled at his level. don't remember if Speed scales or not, but i guess you got the point...
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