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Sep 9 2018, 17:29
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(pigowallace @ Sep 9 2018, 17:20)  I can't figure out how I can make it works xD
Currently it shows me just just a graph when I request it, I can't make it showing the percentage on the stats.
Any help?
Ehm, what else do you want, because this is it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(pigowallace @ Sep 9 2018, 17:20)  1. Any advice about which font to use? I currently use the standard one or Control Freak but this one has some alignment issues.
Well, i use ariel 9 bold normal -4. And it works for me. QUOTE(pigowallace @ Sep 9 2018, 17:20)  2. Is there a way to quickly get rid of the pieces of equipment with junk stats or at least to recognize it? I mean, is there any script that highlights valuable equipment? Hentaiverse Monsterbation always says "X lesser equipment" but... how should I recognize "lesser equipment" in order to sell/salvage it? Thanks
Well everything that is not Mag, Leg or Peerl is nothing but bazaar fodder. The same goes for Mag and Leg Leather and Plate. Also all weapons that are of vampire and of Illithid. Except you would drop yourself a peerl one. You will allways find a collector who would you pay more as the bazaar. And if you allready follow this rules i doubt that you will encounter that much equipment, that you would be overchallenged by them. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Sep 9 2018, 17:40
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KitsuneAbby
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I'd still use the Peerless Rapier of Illithid if I were him. Because peerless PABs, stats and peerless parry. You lose a lit a bit of ADB that way, but you certainly do have a way better accuracy, crit chance, defense and all. Totally worth it to lose around 15-20% weapon ADB (I haven't made the exact calculation) / an overall 5-10% attack base damage, if you ask me. Don't forget that players want peerless mostly because of peerless stats guys. And don't underestimate the power of those peerless stats. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Sep 9 2018, 17:46
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Factofu
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 9 2018, 17:29)  Ehm, what else do you want, because this is it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) My bad, seems that now works properly. Probably I should have reloaded Hentaiverse first xD On the script page it was showed the graph and the percentages on the piece of equipment... I was unable to see the percentages xD QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 9 2018, 17:29)  Well, i use ariel 9 bold normal -4. And it works for me.
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 9 2018, 17:29)  Well everything that is not Mag, Leg or Peerl is nothing but bazaar fodder. The same goes for Mag and Leg Leather and Plate. Also all weapons that are of vampire and of Illithid. Except you would drop yourself a peerl one. You will allways find a collector who would you pay more as the bazaar. And if you allready follow this rules i doubt that you will encounter that much equipment, that you would be overchallenged by them. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Ok, got it xD QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 9 2018, 17:40)  I'd still use the Peerless Rapier of Illithid if I were him. Because peerless PABs, stats and peerless parry. You lose a lit a bit of ADB that way, but you certainly do have a way better accuracy, crit chance, defense and all. Totally worth it to lose around 15-20% weapon ADB (I haven't made the exact calculation) / an overall 5-10% attack base damage, if you ask me. Don't forget that players want peerless mostly because of peerless stats guys. And don't underestimate the power of those peerless stats. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Ok, I'll try to maximixe the rapier then! Thanks to both of you! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by pigowallace: Sep 9 2018, 17:47
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Sep 9 2018, 18:08
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(pigowallace @ Sep 9 2018, 17:46)  My bad, seems that now works properly. Probably I should have reloaded Hentaiverse first xD On the script page it was showed the graph and the percentages on the piece of equipment... I was unable to see the percentages xD
No, it was my bad. Because i have misread what you did wrote. But when it works now, i didnt even matter in the end. So it shows now the percentaces and does work? QUOTE(pigowallace @ Sep 9 2018, 17:46)  Ok, I'll try to maximixe the rapier then!
Yeah, but you should not forget when it comes to a 1H rapier there are in the end just two stats actually important. Damage and parry in that order. Not the other way around. And every single other stat is nothing but bonus. And just to show you what i mean. https://hentaiverse.org/equip/141492898/634b8421eeDamage is great, parry is great. Everything else is average at best. But do you actually think i would care about that? No. No i dont care. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Sep 9 2018, 18:22
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VawX
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 9 2018, 23:08)  https://hentaiverse.org/equip/141492898/634b8421eeDamage is great, parry is great. Everything else is average at best. But do you actually think i would care about that? No. No i dont care. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Yeah, that's basically almost Peerless, should reach at least 20M clean mmm... Btw as far as I remember, both illithid and vampire are always garbage tier since he beginning of HV,, will we get to see some unexpected buff in the future by 10bo for those kinda trash items mmm...~?
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Sep 9 2018, 18:35
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(VawX @ Sep 9 2018, 18:22)  Yeah, that's basically almost Peerless, should reach at least 20M clean mmm...
If you think i had sell that rapier for just 20M think again. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(VawX @ Sep 9 2018, 18:22)  Btw as far as I remember, both illithid and vampire are always garbage tier since he beginning of HV,, will we get to see some unexpected buff in the future by 10bo for those kinda trash items mmm...~?
Yeah, and i am sure there allways will be. Except you would revamp the whole game. I mean since we no longer have any cap on how much stuff we use in battle from the Battle Slots i cant see how you will make them usefull at all. Also in the end it is not the worst, otherwhise it would be much easier to get great drops. So bad equipment just has to be a port of any grinder game.
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Sep 9 2018, 19:01
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Factofu
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 9 2018, 18:08)  No, it was my bad. Because i have misread what you did wrote. But when it works now, i didnt even matter in the end. So it shows now the percentaces and does work?
Yes, it works perfectly now. Here what I see now. [ ibb.co] (IMG:[thumb.ibb.co] https://thumb.ibb.co/fn8FvU/Cattura.png) QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 9 2018, 18:08)  Yeah, but you should not forget when it comes to a 1H rapier there are in the end just two stats actually important. Damage and parry in that order. Not the other way around. And every single other stat is nothing but bonus. And just to show you what i mean. https://hentaiverse.org/equip/141492898/634b8421eeDamage is great, parry is great. Everything else is average at best. But do you actually think i would care about that? No. No i dont care. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Ok, I'll focus on searching something like that xD
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Sep 9 2018, 19:03
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VawX
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 9 2018, 23:35)  If you think i had sell that rapier for just 20M think again. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) By clean, I mean without any upgrade, with how maxed out that thing is, it should be more than 50M mmm...
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Sep 9 2018, 19:12
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(pigowallace @ Sep 9 2018, 19:01)  Yes, it works perfectly now. Here what I see now.
Yup, seems to work as it should. Good. QUOTE(pigowallace @ Sep 9 2018, 19:01)  Ok, I'll focus on searching something like that xD
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Good for you. No, but for real. You should really not using a rapier with worse damage but better parry. For 1H damage is really much more important. Imo damage makes two-thirds of a good rapier and parry just one. If you would now play DW, i would say okay, keep it as a offhand until you get a better of nimble rapier, or a Wakizashi. But we are not talking about DW. QUOTE(VawX @ Sep 9 2018, 19:03)  By clean, I mean without any upgrade, with how maxed out that thing is, it should be more than 50M mmm...
Yeah, i also was talking about the clean fresh rapier without IW and Upgrades. For 20M i had not even thought about selling it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 9 2018, 20:20
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Lord Frith
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Is it worth casting Heartseeker?
The MP upkeep costs are massive and it doesn't seem to offer that much benefit.
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Sep 9 2018, 20:22
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Lord Frith @ Sep 9 2018, 20:20)  Is it worth casting Heartseeker?
The MP upkeep costs are massive and it doesn't seem to offer that much benefit.
Unless you play as mage the answer is a simpe: Yes it is. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Sep 9 2018, 20:22
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Sep 9 2018, 20:37
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Wraithtouch
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 9 2018, 10:35)  Yeah, and i am sure there allways will be. Except you would revamp the whole game. I mean since we no longer have any cap on how much stuff we use in battle from the Battle Slots i cant see how you will make them usefull at all. Also in the end it is not the worst, otherwhise it would be much easier to get great drops. So bad equipment just has to be a port of any grinder game.
Maybe it could get more interesting (not making it particulary best choice, just more useable) if vampire/illithid generated effect not on monster, but on player - like Overwhelming Strike does. Also for illithid to siphon mana without actual contact - it might be somewhat alternative for 1h battlecaster maging. But then it is all speculation. Sorry for offtopic. edit: being on topic, can someone explain this: QUOTE(ehwiki @ Gift Factor) To optimize the amount of chaos tokens spent on a monster regarding the gift factor aspect, one has to invest 5 times more tokens in the Scavenger upgrade than other upgrades.
In what way it is exactly optimized? What difference it results if you do that and if you dont? This post has been edited by Wraithtouch: Sep 9 2018, 21:11
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Sep 9 2018, 23:41
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Wraithtouch @ Sep 9 2018, 21:37)  In what way it is exactly optimized? What difference it results if you do that and if you dont?
TL;DR - no one knows (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Sep 9 2018, 23:57
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BlueWaterSplash
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Compare this Legendary Mithril Buckler of the Battlecaster (level 317, 95% block, 355 PXP0) on auction with the Legendary Mithril Buckler of Protection (level 315, 93% block, 368 PXP0) I use. Left shield has 30.86 base block but 35.39 actual block after level scaling. Right shield has 30.81 base block and 35.66 actual block after level scaling. I guess this is due to the PXP0 increase to stats, but I had previously thought it was incorporated into the base stat popup. Apparently the increase applies only to the level scaled value.
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Sep 10 2018, 00:13
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_LMF_
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 10 2018, 05:57)  ===
Quality_Bonus: Value added based on overall quality of the piece of gear Derived_Base: Value that can be seen on a piece of gear based on the rolls it got during creation QUOTE Derived_Base = (ceil( round(Base_Roll * Slot_Mod)) + ceil( round(Suffix_Roll * Slot_Mod)) + Quality_Bonus) * Base_Multiplier Applied on the base stat if I am not misunderstanding things. Ref pageThis post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Sep 10 2018, 00:14
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Sep 10 2018, 00:22
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BlueWaterSplash
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That's how I interpreted the wiki formulas as well.
But looking at the bucklers example, either the formula or terminology of the wiki may be wrong. Unless there is some other explanation for those two bucklers.
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Sep 10 2018, 00:47
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_LMF_
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 10 2018, 06:22)  That's how I interpreted the wiki formulas as well.
But looking at the bucklers example, either the formula or terminology of the wiki may be wrong. Unless there is some other explanation for those two bucklers.
Hmm I am confused what your question is now. Bases of stats seem to have nothing to do with levels.
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Sep 10 2018, 00:50
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Lord Frith @ Sep 9 2018, 20:20)  Is it worth casting Heartseeker?
The MP upkeep costs are massive and it doesn't seem to offer that much benefit.
I don't know how a flat +25% physical damage can be considered a small benefit.
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Sep 10 2018, 00:57
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BlueWaterSplash
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf)  Hmm I am confused what your question is now. Bases of stats seem to have nothing to do with levels.
The Legendary Mithril Buckler of the Battlecaster on the left has a higher base block and a higher level. So why does it have a lower actual block? QUOTE(Lord Frith)  Is it worth casting Heartseeker? The MP upkeep costs are massive and it doesn't seem to offer that much benefit.
At lower levels Heartseeker has less benefit but you should still use it. But don't cast it raw, I always cast it through Channeling which can be triggered by Protection, Haste, Spark of Life, Shadow Veil, Regen or spamming Cure or Weak.
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Sep 10 2018, 01:16
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 10 2018, 00:57)  At lower levels Heartseeker has less benefit but you should still use it. But don't cast it raw, I always cast it through Channeling which can be triggered by Protection, Haste, Spark of Life, Shadow Veil, Regen or spamming Cure or Weak.
small reminder: heartseeker has a very long cast time, and even longer if casted via channeling. you may want ot wait for a bit of a safe situation before firing it.
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