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post Sep 1 2018, 23:48
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So fellas, I'm wondering what is the best way to get more, better drops without spending too many credits? My stats are:

Scavenger 18/50
Luck of the Draw 8/25
Quartermaster 7/20
Archaeologist 2/10

I've had maybe 4 Leg drops and no Peer drops in my entire 363 levels. Which ones of these are the best to invest into, if any? Most bang for your buck, as it goes. So far every so often I'll sell my entire batch of useless equips and make 90, 100k, so I've been putting that back into the Quartermaster every so often. What do you guys think?
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post Sep 2 2018, 00:05
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QUOTE(aleden @ Sep 1 2018, 16:48) *

So fellas, I'm wondering what is the best way to get more, better drops without spending too many credits? My stats are:

Scavenger 18/50
Luck of the Draw 8/25
Quartermaster 7/20
Archaeologist 2/10

I've had maybe 4 Leg drops and no Peer drops in my entire 363 levels. Which ones of these are the best to invest into, if any? Most bang for your buck, as it goes. So far every so often I'll sell my entire batch of useless equips and make 90, 100k, so I've been putting that back into the Quartermaster every so often. What do you guys think?


Scavenger 30/50
Luck of the Draw 15/25
Quartermaster 10/20
Archaeologist 5/10

Those are sane levels in my opinion. The roi of higher levels isn't that great, only invest more when doing so doesn't hurt your wallet. But well that is just my opinion.

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post Sep 2 2018, 00:12
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There is no "the best" one. They give you roughly the same benefits.
Trainings are always credit sinks. People say they don't regret training them, but I hear so many people who have maxed them cry about their drops.

I say archeologist to 5 or 6 first, then quartermaster and Scavenger, then luck of the draw. Gradually train them to 50% evenly, then 70%, then 80%. That's enough.

Archeologist and quartermaster offer you stable income. My archeologist is 7/10. I get 12~13 PAs on average everyday, minus one energy drink(consider 4.5PAs). That's 180k net gain everyday, only from sales of precursor artifacts.

LotD does no boost instantly. Some players have their 1st peerless drop long after lv450s even though they've maxed all 4 training. So equipment drops are more luck than stable income. They are not investment that gives instant return for sure.
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post Sep 2 2018, 00:19
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QUOTE(aleden @ Sep 1 2018, 23:48) *

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You should train archaelogist. That one pay off easy, compare to the others. I have them all on max, and tbh the good equip drop i ever had was two peerl and my rapier. Except those i didnt got any drop that was worth something. So yeah, you can go for quartermaster and hope for peerl and good leg to sell, and you can get them. But that is not for sure. So you should not invest too much into them, because without good drops the pay off from it is very slow. Personally from experience i allways say, train them when you can afford the money for them easy. When they start to feel really expensive, dont train them, because it will mostly feel like you just wasted your credits. And i guess you dont play on PFUDOR. When you play on PFUDOR the worthless Leg drops will come and they will swarm your inventory and eat your hopes for a good drop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Sep 2 2018, 00:25
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QUOTE(aleden @ Sep 2 2018, 03:18) *

what is the best way to get more, better drops
Quartermaster 7/20

Train Quartermaster as much as possible because that will enable to have much more equipment drops.
which in turn will increase the chances of getting ultra priced equipment.
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post Sep 2 2018, 00:37
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QUOTE(aleden @ Sep 1 2018, 18:48) *

So fellas, I'm wondering what is the best way to get more, better drops without spending too many credits? My stats are:

you aren't playing enough. I already had 78 leg drops at your level .-.
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post Sep 2 2018, 01:05
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Hello, I want to ask, why are there some equipments marked as "untradable" in red letters? I have a magnificent club of slaughter I just bought from the bazaar, it's not soulfused or anything, yet I can't send it to another player via mooglemail. I checked and it seems to be random, most equipment are tradable. Is there a way to make my club tradable?
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post Sep 2 2018, 01:11
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Hello, I want to ask, why are there some equipments marked as "untradable" in red letters? I have a magnificent club of slaughter I just bought from the bazaar, it's not soulfused or anything, yet I can't send it to another player via mooglemail. I checked and it seems to be random, most equipment are tradable. Is there a way to make my club tradable?


Stuff bought from bazaar is always untradeable. No way around it.

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post Sep 2 2018, 01:20
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QUOTE(Xythuard @ Sep 2 2018, 00:05) *

Scavenger 30/50
Luck of the Draw 15/25
Quartermaster 10/20
Archaeologist 5/10

Those are sane levels in my opinion. The roi of higher levels isn't that great, only invest more when doing so doesn't hurt your wallet. But well that is just my opinion.


Thanks, yeah that seems sane. Finding the most even level between spent credits/return is what I was looking for, so that sounds good.

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Sep 2 2018, 00:12) *

There is no "the best" one. They give you roughly the same benefits.
Trainings are always credit sinks. People say they don't regret training them, but I hear so many people who have maxed them cry about their drops.

I say archeologist to 5 or 6 first, then quartermaster and Scavenger, then luck of the draw. Gradually train them to 50% evenly, then 70%, then 80%. That's enough.

Archeologist and quartermaster offer you stable income. My archeologist is 7/10. I get 12~13 PAs on average everyday, minus one energy drink(consider 4.5PAs). That's 180k net gain everyday, only from sales of precursor artifacts.

LotD does no boost instantly. Some players have their 1st peerless drop long after lv450s even though they've maxed all 4 training. So equipment drops are more luck than stable income. They are not investment that gives instant return for sure.


Thanks for the advice. I see what you mean about LotD, especially since that's for the rare stuff. I feel Quartermaster is more important since bulk sales of garbo can actually net you a fair amount. It takes a few days to build up, but yeah. Actually the most interesting thing is how many PAs you drop. Obviously luck plays into everything about HV, but where I'm at now, I drop maybe 4-5 PAs a day. Dropping an average of 10 a day would be awesome. Then with arena credits, I could clear 1 mil in 3 days, which is better than I do now.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 2 2018, 00:19) *

You should train archaelogist. That one pay off easy, compare to the others. I have them all on max, and tbh the good equip drop i ever had was two peerl and my rapier. Except those i didnt got any drop that was worth something. So yeah, you can go for quartermaster and hope for peerl and good leg to sell, and you can get them. But that is not for sure. So you should not invest too much into them, because without good drops the pay off from it is very slow. Personally from experience i allways say, train them when you can afford the money for them easy. When they start to feel really expensive, dont train them, because it will mostly feel like you just wasted your credits. And i guess you dont play on PFUDOR. When you play on PFUDOR the worthless Leg drops will come and they will swarm your inventory and eat your hopes for a good drop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


You and vincento have convinced me to invest a little more into archaeologist. PA drops are always super useful, especially to lower leveled folks.

Also; I play exclusively on PFUDOR, and have since I hit 350. All my Leg drops are worthless and they've all come recently (except my Power of Slaughter gauntlets I dropped at Level 213, which IIRC, wasn't even on PFUDOR or even IWBTH difficulty LOL) so no worries there!

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you aren't playing enough. I already had 78 leg drops at your level .-.


Honestly, I always felt I played too much but maybe you're right. I try to clear the arenas daily, doesn't always work out. I do clear at least the three SG arenas and T&TT. I've had some weird luck with the game. Like I mentioned before, my all time best drop was almost 200 levels ago, and I wasn't even on hard difficulties. Yet now my drops are poor and I only play PFUDOR. But, that is Hentaiverse in a nutshell, I feel (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 2 2018, 11:12
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/163118559/9edc47b837

I wonder if I should redo the IW aiming for penetrator...

also, current stats below. dark CR was 75.5% on last weapon but even without the penetrator on this new weapon, the clear time is already shafted by almost 10%, so I don't know if the penetrator is needed.
on the other hand if I redo it, not having economizer is only means more mana potion drink, right?

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post Sep 2 2018, 12:23
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Sep 2 2018, 11:12) *

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/163118559/9edc47b837

I wonder if I should redo the IW aiming for penetrator...

also, current stats below. dark CR was 75.5% on last weapon but even without the penetrator on this new weapon, the clear time is already shafted by almost 10%, so I don't know if the penetrator is needed.
on the other hand if I redo it, not having economizer is only means more mana potion drink, right?

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You will always benefit from pen5. I would reforge if I wouldn't first have pen5. Then for dark, I still use spel4, but I would have accepted some arch or even annihilator atm.
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post Sep 2 2018, 13:03
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wait, archmage is bellow spelweaver?
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post Sep 2 2018, 13:53
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wait, archmage is bellow spelweaver?


Usually mages have more problems with survivability so it's like charged and radiant, but slightly better for destruction types.
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post Sep 2 2018, 14:00
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wait, archmage is bellow spelweaver?


If you only play Arena I think that Archmage and Economizer can be better als Spellweaver.
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post Sep 2 2018, 14:25
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Loving the orbital friendship cannon! Since I need to have 21 figurines in order to use it, should I sell any unneeded figurines or should I shrine them in the hopes of getting a good binding and high-grade?

Should I invest in purchasing more or should I just for the binding directly?

Also, is there a way for me to update my 'shop' forum so that it is seen on the front page of the listings? I make edits to my original post that list the items and how much I have on hand, but it doesn't update the thread.
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post Sep 2 2018, 14:31
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Sep 2 2018, 19:00) *

If you only play Arena I think that Archmage and Economizer can be better als Spellweaver.


and spelweaver + penetrator is better for grindfest?

QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Sep 2 2018, 19:25) *

Loving the orbital friendship cannon! Since I need to have 21 figurines in order to use it, should I sell any unneeded figurines or should I shrine them in the hopes of getting a good binding and high-grade?

Should I invest in purchasing more or should I just for the binding directly?

Also, is there a way for me to update my 'shop' forum so that it is seen on the front page of the listings? I make edits to my original post that list the items and how much I have on hand, but it doesn't update the thread.


depend if you're feeling lucky, I shrine them instead of selling, just like how I shrine PA instead of selling it.

the one is random, the other is guaranteed, I 'll choose buying binding directly.

you bump it up by posting on it once, just limit the bump to once per 24 hour (I think that's the rules)

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post Sep 2 2018, 16:33
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Hello experts!

Can someone explain to me why some users leave their staves only to iw9 (instead of iw10/Hollowforged)?

What is the criteria to decide between iw9 or iw10?

Thanks for the answers. c:
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post Sep 2 2018, 16:36
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Hello experts!

Can someone explain to me why some users leave their staves only to iw9 (instead of iw10/Hollowforged)?

What is the criteria to decide between iw9 or iw10?

Thanks for the answers. c:

IW 10 will be 'hollowforged' which is useless for mage. It will give void strike when whacking a monster over the head with your staff. We don't do that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
From 9 to 10 can be a real pain. I didn't do 9 to 10 with IW but it happened by forging. And some have the (idle) hope that tenboro will leave current IW as it is and just add a usefull 10th potency for staff. Very, very unlikely. He already hinted otherwise.


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QUOTE(Xythuard @ Sep 2 2018, 21:33) *

Hello experts!

Can someone explain to me why some users leave their staves only to iw9 (instead of iw10/Hollowforged)?

What is the criteria to decide between iw9 or iw10?

Thanks for the answers. c:


there's no point on getting holowforged on staff as you won't use it to smack things and the only thing hollowforged gives is void strike.
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Ok~ thanks for your answers. I somehow had the idea that hollowforge would give a different benefit to staves, something related to magic attacks instead of physical ones. How wrong I was. >.>
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