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post Aug 28 2018, 17:32
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 18:12) *
My problem is neither price nor survival. The main issue is that I always wanted to have definitive sets, without having to constantly change the pieces for better ones (unless it is for a Peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). It's just a personal desire (or dream). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

An average time lapse of any set being "definitive" is one or two HV patches. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 17:39
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 12:32) *

An average time lapse of any set being "definitive" is one or two HV patches. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, we all take that risk. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But until that does not happen, I'll keep trying. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 17:45
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 18:12) *

It might be safer to say that with up to 5m a person can get a full set Slaughter with reasonable %ADB.
Is it possible to survive using leather? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Someday I'll find that out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My problem is neither price nor survival. The main issue is that I always wanted to have definitive sets, without having to constantly change the pieces for better ones (unless it is for a Peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). It's just a personal desire (or dream). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


I believe positive L adb is good enough since even min L slaughter adb is better than other P, and P slaughter as high end definitive set is too rare drop/costly buy.

My problem is prof gain - even 10 points under lvl it's around half point per day unless I want to spend tens of millions or 3 extra hours per day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 18:33
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 12:32) *
An average time lapse of any set being "definitive" is one or two HV patches. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

True! I have a "Peerless" power armor that has lower attack than current legendaries... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 19:06
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Aug 28 2018, 18:33) *

True! I have a "Peerless" power armor that has lower attack than current legendaries... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

unassigned non-slaughter, i guess?
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post Aug 28 2018, 19:15
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 17:32) *

An average time lapse of any set being "definitive" is one or two HV patches. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


I dont think so. Last time we had non-retroactive equipment changes was on 0.82, which was over 3 years ago.

Also I doubt any equipment changes will happen on the near future.

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post Aug 28 2018, 19:41
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 10:12) *

i missed some of this melee justice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

My set to play a brutal, ruthless 2H is almost finished. I'm only lacking boots and a few levels. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 20:40
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 28 2018, 19:41) *

I'm only lacking boots

black or brown? ankle, knee or thighboots?
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post Aug 28 2018, 21:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 29 2018, 01:40) *

black or brown? ankle, knee or thighboots?


got any brown high-heels of slaughter?

anyway, why .80 prof for non imperil mage? is there any math explanation for this?
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post Aug 28 2018, 21:36
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Aug 28 2018, 19:12) *

got any brown high-heels of slaughter?

anyway, why .80 prof for non imperil mage? is there any math explanation for this?

For non-imperil you want 1.0 prof factor, since your only mitigation reduction comes from prof and 1.0 is the cap. At 1.0, you have 50% mitigation reduction, which means the highest possible mitigation a monster can have against your element is 25% (75-50=25).

For imperil style holy/dark I think .80 prof factor is basically the same as .68 prof factor for elemental, since holy/dark imperil is worse than elemental imperil (-25% mitigation vs -40% mitigation).
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post Aug 28 2018, 21:42
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oh, yeah, I meant imperil dark mage, pardon me for a bit drunk here.

anyway, still dark mage, how about 1.0 prof factor + imperil? is the imperil redundant or actually work but simply not too efficient?
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post Aug 28 2018, 22:01
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Aug 28 2018, 19:42) *

oh, yeah, I meant imperil dark mage, pardon me for a bit drunk here.

anyway, still dark mage, how about 1.0 prof factor + imperil? is the imperil redundant or actually work but simply not too efficient?

Imperil would still be useful. For non-imperil to be faster than imperil style, you need much higher damage. 3 radiants + 2 charged prof and a ton of forging would probably be necessary, but I'm not certain.
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post Aug 28 2018, 22:40
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 14:06) *
unassigned non-slaughter, i guess?

Soulbound of Protection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
My 1st peerless drop... it was very nice when I used it among the magnificent slaughters of my 1H set (like half a decade ago) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
(especially since peerless had a ~5% bonus over all Lmax stats)



QUOTE(Piscolabis @ Aug 28 2018, 14:15) *
I dont think so. Last time we had non-retroactive equipment changes was on 0.82, which was over 3 years ago.

Also I doubt any equipment changes will happen on the near future.

I hope new equipments are introduced, but also hope nothing changes with our current equipment... having perfect equips that becomes "not so perfect anymore" isn't cool :/

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post Aug 28 2018, 23:33
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Which rapier i should soulfuse (DW-offhand)?

Legendary Shocking Rapier of the Nimble
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Magnificent Demonic Rapier of Balance
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post Aug 28 2018, 23:51
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shouldn't you look for a waki instead?
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post Aug 28 2018, 23:52
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I would say the nimble because of higher parry.
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post Aug 29 2018, 00:23
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Aug 28 2018, 18:33) *

True! I have a "Peerless" power armor that has lower attack than current legendaries... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I don't want my super duper ultra tanky set to become obsolete too easily. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 29 2018, 05:50
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Aug 28 2018, 23:51) *

shouldn't you look for a waki instead?

Oh. I forgot about that. I'll try this style when I find a good equip for it. Thanks.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 28 2018, 23:52) *

I would say the nimble because of higher parry.

Thank you.
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post Aug 29 2018, 05:55
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QUOTE(dusssa @ Aug 28 2018, 23:50) *

Oh. I forgot about that. I'll try this style when I find a good equip for it. Thanks.
Thank you.


What weapon do you use as your mainhand? If it's a club, go with rapier as offhand. If it's a Rapier, go with Waki as offhand.
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post Aug 29 2018, 07:36
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Aug 28 2018, 22:40) *

I hope new equipments are introduced, but also hope nothing changes with our current equipment... having perfect equips that becomes "not so perfect anymore" isn't cool :/

It is very unlikely that new equipment is introduced Inthe next patch. Tenboro tells everyone little, but told us in IRC:
- currently he is working on gallery system which takes a long time because of reasons, as he put it.
- likely after that he will work on HV, but never at the same time
- next update will probably change equipment enhancement through Item World.
- next patch will probably not make gear obsolete, as he acknowledged that many players have invested heavily in their gear.
- he knows that many LV 500 players would like a lv500-only challenge. We will probably get that eventually but it is not known if that is in the next patch or just somewhere deep at the bottom of a backlog.
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