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post Aug 28 2018, 13:40
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Something about those stats doesn't look quite right. I play a goofy unoptimized 1H/Light build, and while your attack base is far beter than mine, your defenses are consierably worse than mine, and that's without including the 0% Evade.

Are you soulbinding and/or upgrading your armor stats?

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post Aug 28 2018, 14:14
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actually 1h-heavy tend to have low to zero evade anyway, as their equipments have no evade bonus and the burden would diminish any native evade from agi, so it's not surprising that he have 0 evade.

the problem is on block/parry chance 45.7 and 35.4 is pretty low for survivability.

we need to take a closer look on his weapon and shield.

edit: looking at my old equip, it's not that surprising, I just realize that he wield an exquisite rapier...
edit 2: after scrolling up a few, yeah, the shield is actually pretty good albeit not upgraded nor soulfused.

trying to answer previous question : preferred potencies for rapier for 1h-heavy weapon last time I know is butcher-fatality. for dw/niten might be a bit different as you don't get the counter parry from the overwhelming strike

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post Aug 28 2018, 14:27
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 07:17) *

Would that be an exception? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Not long ago this type of equipment would not sell for less than 1m.


All last auctions feature slaughters for ~500k and lower, and that's been true for at least half a year (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 07:17) *
But in my case, this type of equipment is not worth the investment, even if it were little. If so I'd rather stay with my Balance (94%~99%) and Protection (all Peerless) sets. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


It's ok to use any equipment you like, it just considerably less adb > slower. If price and survival is your meta too why do you overpaying when leather is almost free?

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 28 2018, 08:45) *

Guys, keep it friendly, please. And let's end this discussion, all has been said.


True, some people just don't listen (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 17:12
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 09:27) *

All last auctions feature slaughters for ~500k and lower, and that's been true for at least half a year (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


I looked at the outcome of several auctions and realized that this is almost true. In fact the results were quite varied. It all depends on the dispute. It had equipment with less than 50% sold for more than 1m, and with more than 50% sold for less than 500k.

I also realized that above 70~75% prices start firing.

It might be safer to say that with up to 5m a person can get a full set Slaughter with reasonable %ADB.

QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 09:27) *

It's ok to use any equipment you like, it just considerably less adb > slower. If price and survival is your meta too why do you overpaying when leather is almost free?


Is it possible to survive using leather? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Someday I'll find that out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My problem is neither price nor survival. The main issue is that I always wanted to have definitive sets, without having to constantly change the pieces for better ones (unless it is for a Peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). It's just a personal desire (or dream). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 17:32
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 18:12) *
My problem is neither price nor survival. The main issue is that I always wanted to have definitive sets, without having to constantly change the pieces for better ones (unless it is for a Peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). It's just a personal desire (or dream). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

An average time lapse of any set being "definitive" is one or two HV patches. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 17:39
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 12:32) *

An average time lapse of any set being "definitive" is one or two HV patches. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, we all take that risk. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But until that does not happen, I'll keep trying. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 17:45
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 18:12) *

It might be safer to say that with up to 5m a person can get a full set Slaughter with reasonable %ADB.
Is it possible to survive using leather? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Someday I'll find that out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My problem is neither price nor survival. The main issue is that I always wanted to have definitive sets, without having to constantly change the pieces for better ones (unless it is for a Peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). It's just a personal desire (or dream). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


I believe positive L adb is good enough since even min L slaughter adb is better than other P, and P slaughter as high end definitive set is too rare drop/costly buy.

My problem is prof gain - even 10 points under lvl it's around half point per day unless I want to spend tens of millions or 3 extra hours per day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 18:33
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 12:32) *
An average time lapse of any set being "definitive" is one or two HV patches. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

True! I have a "Peerless" power armor that has lower attack than current legendaries... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 19:06
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Aug 28 2018, 18:33) *

True! I have a "Peerless" power armor that has lower attack than current legendaries... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

unassigned non-slaughter, i guess?
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post Aug 28 2018, 19:15
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 17:32) *

An average time lapse of any set being "definitive" is one or two HV patches. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


I dont think so. Last time we had non-retroactive equipment changes was on 0.82, which was over 3 years ago.

Also I doubt any equipment changes will happen on the near future.

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post Aug 28 2018, 19:41
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 10:12) *

i missed some of this melee justice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

My set to play a brutal, ruthless 2H is almost finished. I'm only lacking boots and a few levels. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 20:40
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 28 2018, 19:41) *

I'm only lacking boots

black or brown? ankle, knee or thighboots?
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post Aug 28 2018, 21:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 29 2018, 01:40) *

black or brown? ankle, knee or thighboots?


got any brown high-heels of slaughter?

anyway, why .80 prof for non imperil mage? is there any math explanation for this?
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post Aug 28 2018, 21:36
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Aug 28 2018, 19:12) *

got any brown high-heels of slaughter?

anyway, why .80 prof for non imperil mage? is there any math explanation for this?

For non-imperil you want 1.0 prof factor, since your only mitigation reduction comes from prof and 1.0 is the cap. At 1.0, you have 50% mitigation reduction, which means the highest possible mitigation a monster can have against your element is 25% (75-50=25).

For imperil style holy/dark I think .80 prof factor is basically the same as .68 prof factor for elemental, since holy/dark imperil is worse than elemental imperil (-25% mitigation vs -40% mitigation).
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post Aug 28 2018, 21:42
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oh, yeah, I meant imperil dark mage, pardon me for a bit drunk here.

anyway, still dark mage, how about 1.0 prof factor + imperil? is the imperil redundant or actually work but simply not too efficient?
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post Aug 28 2018, 22:01
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Aug 28 2018, 19:42) *

oh, yeah, I meant imperil dark mage, pardon me for a bit drunk here.

anyway, still dark mage, how about 1.0 prof factor + imperil? is the imperil redundant or actually work but simply not too efficient?

Imperil would still be useful. For non-imperil to be faster than imperil style, you need much higher damage. 3 radiants + 2 charged prof and a ton of forging would probably be necessary, but I'm not certain.
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post Aug 28 2018, 22:40
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 14:06) *
unassigned non-slaughter, i guess?

Soulbound of Protection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
My 1st peerless drop... it was very nice when I used it among the magnificent slaughters of my 1H set (like half a decade ago) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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QUOTE(Piscolabis @ Aug 28 2018, 14:15) *
I dont think so. Last time we had non-retroactive equipment changes was on 0.82, which was over 3 years ago.

Also I doubt any equipment changes will happen on the near future.

I hope new equipments are introduced, but also hope nothing changes with our current equipment... having perfect equips that becomes "not so perfect anymore" isn't cool :/

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post Aug 28 2018, 23:33
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Which rapier i should soulfuse (DW-offhand)?

Legendary Shocking Rapier of the Nimble
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Magnificent Demonic Rapier of Balance
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post Aug 28 2018, 23:51
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shouldn't you look for a waki instead?
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post Aug 28 2018, 23:52
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I would say the nimble because of higher parry.
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